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Baccarat New to this site... my Baccarat system model is looking excellent.

Discussion in 'Baccarat Forum' started by TheGoldenGoose, Sep 29, 2018.

  1. Nathan Detroit

    Nathan Detroit Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    This cat , Golden goose , has made up hid mind . He knows what he is doing...... No matter what anyone tells him .


    don`t bother with him .
     
  2. Nathan Detroit

    Nathan Detroit Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Golden Goose ,


    Nothing personal but it is a well known fact that no one pays attention to any given advice .



    Happy Winnings !
     
  3. TheGoldenGoose

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    The Basic Unit results of the second testing sessions were as follows: +18, +9, +8, +8, +23, +6, -10, +9, +2, -18 for a total of +55 Basic Units Won. This is good enough for me to take it LIVE and will report back before Friday. Foxwoods is a nut house Friday through Sunday and I avoid it like the plague. Too many idiots running loose. GLTA.
     
  4. Joey Torres

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    Hi GG,

    Nice results. What sort of money management you are using in Baccarat.

    Good luck
     
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  5. TheGoldenGoose

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    "Nice results. What sort of money management you are using in Baccarat"

    The practice sessions were run using $25 basic units with a $1,000 bankroll. I will use the same in LIVE sessions this week. It is a very conservative system utilizing small wagering increments with a stop-loss incorporated to prevent any total catastrophic bankroll. There is definitely more tweaking needed to take advantage of the streaks that are inherent within a baccarat shoe but, again, I will listen and learn as I have very rarely played this game throughout my lifetime. Blackjack is my game of choice so card tracking and money management should not present any problems. Thank you for your interest.
     
  6. Nathan Detroit

    Nathan Detroit Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    GGREAT ! . Continued Happy Winnings ,




    ND
     
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  7. TheGoldenGoose

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    Thank you sir. And NEVER anything personal here. We are all big boys and we deal strictly business.
    It looks like tomorrow afternoon will be the maiden voyage. Will keep you all posted.
    GLTA.
     

  8. TheGoldenGoose

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    LIVE FROM FOXWOODS... Very first set of the session was +7 units (+$175). Took WAY longer than anticipated, about an hour and a half. Got to be very conservative though until I get things tweaked. Sooooo much slower than Blackjack. Updates coming later. GLTA.
     
  9. TheGoldenGoose

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    LIVE FROM FOXWOODS... 2nd set of the session was +9 units (+$225). This one only took 55 minutes.
     
  10. TheGoldenGoose

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    I only got to play those two sets last night. Foxwoods was shutting down tables and eventually closed the entire Baccarat pit. They had a $200 minimum big table open but I can't risk that on the system when it's still not perfected.

    They want you to play that virtual multi-game with the stadium seats. FTS!!!
     
  11. Joey Torres

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    Hello!

    Thanks for your input. Will you be able to share more details about your money management. Are you using D'lambert or Oscar Grind and how many units is your stop loss and stop win.
     
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  12. TheGoldenGoose

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    Hi Joey. It is a D'lambert with a stop loss at six units but I am a firm believer that you should NEVER incorporate a stop win into any system. I have seen CRAZY winning streaks in my degenerate lifetime. Always limit your losses and allow the winning streaks to run. Great question and thanks for your contribution to this Forum.
     
  13. Jimske

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    D'Alembert? A fun progression and strong progression. Essentially requires one to win 50% of decisions. The vig or commission is the flaw in an otherwise EC game.

    Consider L 1,2,3,4,= -10 units; W 5,4,3 = +12; Pretty good! Next bet is either 2 u or restart 1 u, right?

    Say restart. W 1,1,1,1 = +4 u; L 1,2,3,4 = -10 or -6 total. Now we are screwed. So to overcome we must start at a multiple unit level.

    W 5,4,3,2; L 1,2,3,4 = +4. Nice! See the flaw? When we get down to lower units from winning there is no place to go. So start high. Doesn't matter how high. It will all come out the same.

    L 5,6,7,8; W 9,8,7 = -2; W 6 = +4 because we won 50% of our hands. THE VIG = ONE LOSING HAND. THAT'S THE FLAW. Plug in one more losing hand (the commission) and we lose.

    So how to overcome? 1) win more hands than lose or 2) use offset betting such as advocated by Stetson Bailey.
    L 5,6,7,8; W 9,9,8 = 0; W 7 = +7 !!! IOW we will need to win at least 2 IAR at same unit level. Could be W 9,8,7,7 = +6 units. But. . . the deeper we go the more WIAR we need to overcome.
     
  14. TheGoldenGoose

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    Jimske: Should have mentioned (and my bad) I was playing at a Dragon 7 table where no commission paid on Banker wins. Different card drawing rules of course but 16 units and +$400 in about 2.5 hours will get no complaints from me. I have been gambling half a century and can tell you without a doubt if you show me a Flat Bettor, I will show you a loser. Again, this is uncharted waters for me as I have never spent any serious time on the game of Baccarat. But given the low House Edge I will be investing much more time in this game. Thanks for your very expletive post and contribution sir.
     

  15. John Blerg

    John Blerg Well-Known Member 👹 Troll 👹

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    Sorry there is no different card drawing rules no matter if it's a regular baccarat, big table baccarat, mini Baccarat or midi Baccarat or the EZ BAC, or the newest one bad beat baccarat.

    all the drawing rules are all the same!
     
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  16. Jimske

    Jimske Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    EZ bacc still carries a HA on the push.
     
  17. TheGoldenGoose

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    OK now I see said the blind man!!! Huge Banker bet up by #1 and he was FURIOUS when his Banker 7 pushed.
     
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  18. Jimske

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    But . . . it's entirely possible to win more hands than lose, not just break even. If you are lucky enough to attain this then D'Alembert will work just fine. A 6 unit stop and restart loss a pretty tall order. But one could use a progressive D'Alembert IF you got the bankroll necessary.

    I don't want to change your concept but you could also use a Labouchere which is basically a cancellation strategy. You can look it up.
     
  19. TheGoldenGoose

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    Thank you Jimske as I will research and try to incorporate LaBrouchere as well. Very much appreciate your comments. Thank you.
     
  20. John Blerg

    John Blerg Well-Known Member 👹 Troll 👹

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    Follow all those that were written about many years ago with all them European names just like Millions upon millions of players have tried and see what happens playing 1/3 to 0 2/3 of every shoe.

    I'll go back to playing 3 to 7 possibly eight hands with my method I've described $30,000 + winnings thus far......
     

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