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Baccarat New to this site... my Baccarat system model is looking excellent.

Discussion in 'Baccarat Forum' started by TheGoldenGoose, Sep 29, 2018.

  1. brokercny

    brokercny Active Member

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    hey guys, since this is one of the newer threads, i want to ask if this strategy would be profitable long term. i actually thought of it from reading most of the posts from here and applying it with my experience. this strategy will use the marty of 5 steps. bet selection will be when you see a trend of 4 bankers or players and your bet would be against the trend. maybe a trend of 3 or even 5? you get 5 chances to get out with a profit. ive been playing mostly at the racino, resorts world in queens and i see these trends but i dont really see it happen more than 3 to 5 times at all. would like some feedback and maybe this group can improve on this strategy.
     
  2. Jimske

    Jimske Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Keep in mind that no progression is will change a negative EV game to a positive one. But if you keep your card and compare various progressions with the same placements you'll see huge differences in escalation.

    Charles Guetting up as you win progression is another good one to look at and compare.
     
  3. Jimske

    Jimske Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Simple answer is, "No, it won't." Reason is just one loss will compensate for all the wins. If that doesn't then another loss will. Surely you recognize that this method is the same using any number of arbitrary trends? You're likely to go a pretty long time before you tap out considering the average number of run lengths in a shoe. Say you use a run of 5. How many bets per shoe for a 5+ on average? About 2 I'd guess. Sounds pretty good winning 2 units a shoe until you get an 11 IAR and you lose 31 units if I figured that right. I think we'll see 11 or 12 IAR every 12 shoes or so - can't find my LIAR table right now.
     
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  4. TheGoldenGoose

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    I have tried to limit LIAR by staggering B & P wagers. The one problem I can't seem to find a solution is when you get a Chop Pattern and are on the WRONG side. Example... You bet B and lose. Next wager P for 2 units and lose. Wager B for 3 units and lose. P for four units and lose. B for 5 units and lose. You are chopping but on the wrong side. Which is why I limit losses to 5 IAR. Then restart with a B wager for 2 units. If lose, P wager for 3 units. If lose, B wager for 4 units and so on.

    Another testing coming up tomorrow afternoon and will be once again UPDATING LIVE from Foxwoods. Stay tuned!!!
     
  5. John Blerg

    John Blerg Well-Known Member 👹 Troll 👹

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    I tried it all, did not work for me or others.

    I found 3 to 6 or 7 total wagers. Total risking all buyin for about 3 wager total.

    Then parlay once or twice, up over 30,000.00 now easily in a couple of months.
     
  6. Jimske

    Jimske Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Maybe you should stay on your own CalAsia B S thread instead of trolling this one.
     
  7. brokercny

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    hey, i keep forgetting about this system seller. i get this email on a weekly basis about this $1000 a day baccarat system. they claim that we havent ever seen anything like this before. it can work online or at the casino. they even offer an opportunity to send them money so they can gamble it for you. they return like 20% a week. they dont have an actual system name other than the $1000 a day or even a website that i know of. has anyone heard of this or know of the details of the system?
     
  9. brokercny

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    That’s part of the email. Anyone familiar with their system?
     

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  10. TheGoldenGoose

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    Update: So I was at Foxwoods Wednesday afternoon / evening and was prepared to play my Baccarat system and report LIVE results. The mini-baccarat tables were crowded with the exception of one EZ table with a $100 minimum. As previously discussed, although I do have a supportable bankroll, I am just not comfortable with this game and my system as yet to allow these $100 minimum limits to roll. Instead played Pai-Gow Poker even for 2 hours before leaving the table -$300. Last hand I put 5's up top with trip 10's below. Only to lose to the dealers higher full house... She put J's up top with trip Q's below. Complete BS and time to leave.
     
  11. brokercny

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    You should have drove an extra 15 minutes to Mohegan sun instead.
     
  12. TheGoldenGoose

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    As mentioned earlier in this Thread. Was banned for Life from Mohegan Son some 15 years ago. Don't need it and don't miss it but have snooped into there a few times for concerts and with friend who likes their race book. I don't need the Mohegan Sun and do not miss them at all. The banning story will be for another Thread. Not relevant in this Thread for our Baccarat purposes.
     
  13. brokercny

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    Oh forgot about that.
     
  14. Jimske

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    If you don't want to say that's your business. But since you brought it up I'll ask why you were banned? I myself was "banned" from Fxwd about 15 years ago. They froze thousands of points which were very dear to me especially around holiday gift time! LOL I was told I could play any game in the casino but if BJ I could only play one spot and could not raise my bet. When I complained they told me I could take it to their court - I didn't of course. I rarely played there after that but they still would not give me points for Baccarat or Poker. Last year I complained and they reinstated my card but told me to not play BJ.

    I prefer MoSun for Baccarat though I have played hundreds of shoes at Fxwd.
     

  15. John Blerg

    John Blerg Well-Known Member 👹 Troll 👹

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    Anybody seen the movie 21? Or better yet The Gambler? Seems we got a lot of super Pros here that are extremely rich I love it such a Powerhouse of information Exchange
     
  16. TheGoldenGoose

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    Jimske: Long story short... This was almost 20 years ago. I was throwing $25 tokens into a High Stakes sit-down video poker machine. I put my fist on the glass, not AT ALL hard, very softly and the glass shattered. They treated me like some kind of thug. Hauled me away to the back room security and DEMANDED I pay $1200. I knew what they wanted. I had almost $4K in comp points. They wanted to rob me of some of my points. I convinced them to allow me the courtesy of speaking to the security chief first thing in the morning. I immediately took wifey to the Jewelry store and bought her a $4k tennis bracelet, effectively zeroing out my comp points. They were so frigging pizzed that I "beat them to the punch" they sent me a certified letter the same day banning me for life. Fukk'em. Don't need them. I prefer Foxwoods any way.
     
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    Was that the little jewelry store right outside the casino first floor underneath and a little bit short towards the casino side, underneath where the Michael Jordan Steakhouse was on top,n and the jewelry store is deeper, than it is greater in width?
     
  18. Jimske

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    Sorry to hear of your bad experience. Video poker has a lower point value than other slots because of it's lower EV. So to acquire even 4000 points you got to throw a LOT of $25 "tokens." Even so, as it goes 4000 points not a lot. I think you read them wrong. It's true they can prohibit patronage for ANY reason or NO reason. I would have gone to the casino commission and presented my case that it was an accident. After all, they likely had you on video which might have shown a defective machine.

    Look, they could have sued you for the $1200. It was just easier to say goodbye. They want but don't NEED your action. Best to just get rid of what they perceived as a bad apple. They don't care about the measly points. What they want is your $25. Anyways good on you that they didn't get around to "stealing" your points. Playing slots at least that might have given you a profit!

    But for sure they got your name in their database. Likely after all this time if you went to speak with them with heart in hand they'd let you back in.
     
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  19. Lani

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    You need more testing the system. If you like I can help with testing, as many as shoes you want, by programming.
     
  20. Nathan Detroit

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    What testing ? By now one should know what to bet either B or P and an applicable MM to the situation .

    That`s why it is called gambling .


    ND
     

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