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Baccarat Ties in Baccarat

Discussion in 'Baccarat Forum' started by R19, Dec 11, 2018.

  1. R19

    R19 Active Member 👹 Troll 👹

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    And BTW, one player I play with who is one player among a huge number has made serious 5 figures since only this weekend already and their strategy is heavily weighted on high payout bets so I don't want to hear any crap from anyone about schoolz of mathemutics or whatevs.
     
  2. John Blerg

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    C, HG and the Bike. We know. Dont forget about M out on the 10 as well. I play only a few hands as I report, but i stay between 30 mins to 3 hours depending on finding my lil spot, LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  3. Sharptracker

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    I do not know nothing about baccarat, the game is not available here. But the few i read has much more sense than what you explain me... I mean any serious banker would smile if they would hear that you can make money durably with a negative edge... I believed at first that you were talking about an advantage play, i wouldn't have lost my&your time if i knew that you were believing to do something with a negative edge...

    But nevermind, you must be a quantum player...
     
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    That is why you'll never understand a thing about putting money at risk in anything. You live in a fantasy world of books and math and theory so best with that.

    And I read you're in Belgium so yeah really far from baccarat tables lol. Good luck. As a parallel example, financial markets are full of black swan examples of hedge funds and traders and investors that tried to make a living picking up nickels in front of steam rollers for a living. Look up Long Term Capital as one of many case examples.

    I don't care what you think or your charts and stats say. So dumb. Can I have the time I wasted on here speaking with you and everyone else back?

    You asked about tie and I told you exactly why and how people play it. Not some desk professor that theoretically has some casino math view. You think everything in baccarat plays out right on time like a Swiss watch and everything according to some set math rules. Ok best on that because that is not reality. A baccarat shoe can have zero ties and then pop off 5 in 8 hands. You figure that out with your math bros. I told you I don't play it so kiss off.
     
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    "I do not know nothing about baccarat" quote, unquote!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ROMFAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Y is it that someone that says he knows nothing about something is so outspoken and pushes everyone that actually plays the game and some of us make money at it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am up over $100,000.00 USD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Not rich but a nice gig bro!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    rolling my eyes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! everyone knows everything, grab my crotch!!!!!!
     
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  6. R19

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    And you and the rest of you Euro chickens stop posing like you have no access to baccarat. WTF?

    Take the uber train or whatever in the hell they call it and move your ass over to jolly England or Monte Carlo.
     
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  7. John Blerg

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    "I told you I don't play it so kiss off."

    Y the hostility????? I thought all U guys loved each other????? U know, hugging and smoochie poo, no?????????????
     

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    This is just one example. Let's say a player is positioning $1,000 on Bank/ Player, $100 on high payout bets like Dragon/ Panda or Tiger/ Ox or whatever. Maybe they want to put $10 or $15 to cover tie because the are playing in a flurry of ties or tie lines or whatever.

    Not because some casino math whiz whose idea of good PR is photobombing a Denny's sign or a basic cafeteria says there's no edge in tie.

    That $10 - $15 from time to time might face their high payout bet allocation. Or they could say fuck it and never ever do that. Who cares? That is how some play tie.

    About smoochie, playing something and describing how/ why players in general can be two different things.
     
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    How many coffee's today bro>>>?????? Like 10??????????????

    Look at this sister, she really doesn't even get upset!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You know?????

    Cool!

     
  10. R19

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    Energy drinks and Powerade. This will make you gain weight. That's why coffee power is better. Should get one of them fancy Italian job espresso machines.
     
  11. Sharptracker

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    Yes i don't play baccarat, i play roulette but see? baccarat is just one click away and i had few questions but not destinated to sweet dreamers...
     
  12. John Blerg

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    Can U define that 4 us??? Play with????

    Maybe you meant play along side at the baccarat table??? Just possibly????????????
     
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    I think that R19 must have to be gentle as a lamb there to learn how to duplicate randomness at baccarat that's probably why he likes to let off steam here with us... anyway good luck to everyone, John hopefully you'll reach the million... i don't see why especially you couldn't make a million with a negative edge if they can do so ...
     
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    Stick with your balls and spinning. Can't believe you have actually placed 1 Euro on roulette the way you keep pounding the table on edge and math. Who cares? You asked about tie and got plenty of information. BOL.
     

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    OMFG HAHAHAHAHAHA WITHOUT EVEN READING IT I KNEW 100% IT WAS A LOAD OF BULL... '85 FAST BACCARAT COMPUTATION'... THIS LINE OF THINKING IN PLAY IS THE WORST EVER WHEN IT COMES TO BACCARAT. LIKE I SAID I DO NOT BET TIES. BUT TIES CAN SHOW UP IN STREAKS, HEAVY AT TIMES, NEVER IN OTHERS, TIE LINES, A HEDGE FOR HIGH PAYOUT BETS WHICH ARE GONE UP IN SMOKE IF THE OUTCOME IS BANK/ PLAYER/ TIE.

    MOST PLAYERS DO NOT PLAY TIE AT ALL. SOME REASONS WHY HAVE BEEN MENTIONED. I DON'T KNOW ANY PLAYERS OR HAVE SEEN ANY PLAYERS THAT JUMP OUT AS HAVING TIE A CORE PART OF THEIR APPROACH TO PLAY.

    THE POINT OF ANOTHER WASTED PART OF MY LIFE POSTING THIS IS THAT THE SHUFFLE, CUT, AND BURN CARD PROCESS CAN PRODUCE ANYTHING REALLY. JUST BECAUSE TIE DOES NOT HAVE EDGE IN THE LONG RUN OR OVER 1 BILLION HANDS OF BACCARAT DOESN'T MEAN RIGHT THEN AND THERE TIE ISN'T SHOWING UP. YOU DON'T GET PAID FOR PLAYING 1 BILLION SHOES IN BACCARAT OR REALLY HAVE A SHOT AT DECENT RESULTS POSITIONING FOR THE EXPECTED OUTCOME OF 1 BILLION HANDS.

    PAYOUT IS BASED ON THE HANDS YOU PLAY ON THE SHOE RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU. THIS IS WHAT THE MATH/ EDGE QUANTS NEVER UNDERSTAND. YOU CAN LOOK AT ANY MONSTER MOVES IN THE FINANCIAL MARKETS, SPORTS OR ANYTHING AND SEE HUGE UNLIKELY TRENDS AND EVENTS THAT HAVE OCCURRED. OTHERWISE JUST BET BANK ALL OF THE TIME, AND SEE HOW THAT WORKS OUT FOR YOU, ESPECIALLY ON ALL OF THE STRONG PLAYER SHOES.

    THANK YOURSELF NOW FOR GETTING OFF OF THIS 1 BILLION HAND MINDSET. ALSO NOT SURE WHY THERE IS SUCH INTEREST IN THE LOWEST MULTIPLE HIGH PAYOUT BET. 8X1 OR 9X1 MEH.
     
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    You just proved me that you give an opinion without even read (when you read a book you probably go directly to the end). I knew something was wrong because you were talking about why gamblers putting their bet on tie instead to read peacefully 2 minutes and realize i was talking about something else...nevermind

    But again, if you can see, i said i posted this by mistake... this is not the file i wanted to attached, this is a paragraph among many others where there is severals ways explained. According to the value of the card remaining and at a moment in the shoe, Ties have great chance to come out and with the payout it could produce an edge.
     
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    Very well. Either way, when it comes to high payout bets there are two primary schools of thought:
    1. If the casino offers it, it can not be good.
    2. It can have substantial positive impact if played correctly.

    I didn't read it because I do not want to review anything about theoretical value, edge, expected value, etc. in baccarat. As an experienced player, it is out job to assess whether a baccarat shoe is showing anything and everything and be ready for anything and everything to develop. I have seen countless shoes that sit there for quite a while unplayed and then develop to be one of the hottest shoes on the floor a few hands later. Most can look at a shoe and if there are no high payout bet wins like Dragon or Panda, etc. hitting for a good amount of hands then those are not good shoes to play if that is what you're looking for.... yet you will find other players still piling on to those types of bets for those very shoes.

    General rule is that it is smart to forgo early high payout bet wins because they might not show up for quite a while and then start to strike if they start coming in. There is a huge difference between a 1 Panda/ 0 Dragon or 1 Panda/ 1 Dragon shoe and an 8 Panda/ 3 Dragon shoe.

    MY OPINION IS BASED ON THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF HOURS OF ACTUAL PLAY WHERE I AM SURROUNDED BY A SUBSTANTIAL NUMBER OF BACCARAT PLAYERS PLAYING THROUGH A SUBSTANTIAL NUMBER OF BACCARAT SHOES. I DON'T HAVE THE SKILL TO BE IN AND OUT SO FAST LIKE SOME AND I AM NOT INTO ALL OF THAT MATH. AND BTW, I HAVE TAKEN ENGINEERING COURSE THAT PHD STUDENTS WERE TAKING A SECOND TIME AND I LITERALLY HAD THE MOST BOSS PROFESSOR WHO JUST HAD HIS MOUNTAIN BIKE IN HIS OFFICE AND LIKE A HUNDRED EMPTY MOUNTAIN DEW CANS HAND WALK ME THROUGH HOMEWORK ASSIGNMENTS AND EXAM PREP SO I DID NOT FAIL. THESE ALONG WITH MANY OTHER ADVANCED MATH AND ENGINEERING COURSES THAT MOSTLY THAT I ACED - A GRADES.... PLAYING BACCARAT IS APPLIED ADVANCED MATH IN THE REAL WORLD AND YOU PAY FOR MISTAKES AND BAD ALLOCATION WITH YOUR MONEY OR SOMEONE ELSE'S MONEY IF YOU ADVISE THEM OR THEY FOLLOW YOU.

    I DON'T PLAY OTHER GAMES, BUT WITHOUT EVEN LOOKING I AM SURE OF IT THAT 100% THERE ARE STREAKS AND TRENDS IN CRAPS, ROULETTE, PAI GOW POKER, PAI GOW TILES, SIC BO, ETC. THAT LEAVE PLAYERS WONDERING WTH IS GOING ON.

    SO YES, IF YOU WANT TO HAVE TIE AS SOME SORT OF A STRATEGY THEN A HOUSE OFFERING 9X1 IS AN ADVANTAGE OVER 8X1 ALL ELSE THE SAME. BUT WHAT ABOUT A HOUSE THAT HAS XX TABLES VS A SMALLER HOUSE. YOU CAN THEN FIND BACCARAT SHOES WITH A LOT OF TIES VS ONE THAT HAS ONLY A FEW HITTING?

    SHOE ME A HOUSE THAT CARES WHAT YOU COUNT OR WHAT YOU NOTE ON PAPER OR A SCORECARD? BRING SOME NASA ENGINEERS OR FIELD TEAM WITH YOU. BRING 10 PEOPLE WITH YOU AND ALL ANALYZE. I HAVE NOT REALLY HEARD OF A HOUSE THAT CARES AT ALL. THIS IS DIFFERENT FROM BLACKJACK OR MAYBE OTHER GAMES.
     
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    I have watched this player's videos and learned a good deal. He does favor tie positions. This is Crockfords in England. Like he says, this is a very prestigious house to be invited to play at. Where are the army of their attorneys taking this down? Nowhere because they do not care to have it done.

    While he is playing with the camera set up you can see he has over a half mil Euros in his account. I like to watch these and other live dealing videos. I asked about it recently and was recommended to sign up for the Celtic Casino trial which I still have to do. Some of these cats will play many types of games like Dragon/ Tiger, roulette, blackjack, Dream Catcher. BOL

     
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    Why is it you only want to put your hands on your hips and sway whatever weight you have or push to have and just push people into the proverbial corner and piss on them????

    and just do no good???? All you do is act like a bully and pick a fight with anybody and everybody and you talk about me or other people you need to buy a bottle of Windex and look in the mirror pal!!!!!!!

    I'd be embarrassed to push you out of the way if there was a speeding truck coming down the road although I would but I'd be like apologizing to society in general for not watching you go splat!!!!
     
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    Why is it you only want to put your hands on your hips and sway whatever weight you have or push to have and just push people into the proverbial corner and piss on them????

    and just do no good???? All you do is act like a bully and pick a fight with anybody and everybody and you talk about me or other people you need to buy a bottle of Windex and look in the mirror pal!!!!!!!

    I'd be embarrassed to push you out of the way if there was a speeding truck coming down the road although I would but I'd be like apologizing to society in general for not watching you go splat!!!!
     

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