Baccarat "THE DIRTY DOZEN" as promised.

To much wishful thinking concerning your system. The MM of 3 step Marty is like avoiding land mines. How many 3 losses in a row are in a shoe? You lose 1 out of 8 and you need 7 wins to cover. Furthermore you enhanced your losses to 11 by using a Grand Marty.

 

Well i guess i can't use your system down here as they change every shoe with a new shoe (guess why).
I don't know why i didn't see it before...

 

Yes i understand your point. If i am down 6 losses in a row i normally stop take a break and wait to start over on thr next shoe. I will also pay close attention to tbose 6 losses in the next shoe and bet that section because to have to 6 straight losses in the same position from the prev shoe I rarely have seen it happen.

 

That wont make a difference my friend. You can still use this method. The main idea about this method it would be impossible for 2 shoes back to.back having the same results so no worries.

 

Just curious.... Have you tried it out and how were your results? Thx

 

This is where a possible lack of experience can get you into trouble. I once wrote a simulation application that took 10 different unlikely to occur sequences and played them against conditional situations, in other words "triggered starting points." This was used for a three step progression of 24 numbers betting, two dozens or columns. It was a simple 1 - 1, 3 - 3, and 9 - 9 double dozen Martingale system. The trick was to find out if an unlikely sequence would ever occur at an exact moment. And guess what? It does occur at the exact moments. It busted at the mathematical expected rate. It proved that the most unlikely thing to happen at the exact moment does actually happen. Your bet selection of a same streak or similar streak occurring back to back in different shoes will happen. Logic may say that it won't but it does. It will kill off a Grand Martingale. There are just enough bad stretches to take back your winnings.

Now double dozen betting on Roulette digs deep holes real fast. But EC betting like Baccarat is not as volatile. Still, I would come up with a reading the randomness for trends in order to play against what you are currently seeing from the shoe. And I would also consider not betting back to back bets if you are experiencing a perfectly executed steep dive. You should take action when you hit a losing streak. Don't feed the bad streaks. Figure out a simple adjustment. The mathBoyz will tell you that you can't know when you are in a losing streak. But if you watch for those streaks you can tell them when you see them. Math will never tell you when a win streak or a losing streak will occur. You just need a plan for them. And you must watch for them. Timing is everything no matter if you are flat betting or using your progression.

 

I think you couldn't have said it any better. When I see that a streak starting to "match" the previous draws I do start to switching the pattern to not betting OPPOSITE but rather MATCH. I think the key is how to identify when we should switch, that might be the key in this. I really appreciate your input on this.

 

That is trying to adjust to what you are seeing. And that will give you results data too. It will work well or it won't. You need to figure out how to live with the results data. It's the biggest picture. So you will try to identify when to switch. For me it is very simple. Bet big when it is working and bet very small when it is not. That takes the when to act down to just two possibilities. Gambling results come in three flavors. They can swarm as a type. They can be chaotic. They can be disastrous no matter what you do. That is the biggest picture.

 

Biggest issue would be to know when its working and when its not...

 

In short though.... I still think the methkd works from what i have been seeing....

 

Yes. So the progression must be turned off during the not working times. That will only take out the back to back losses. That is only a few, but it will make a difference. It takes all the losses at the full price to make the House Advantage math work the way that the mathboyz predict that it will. Hence the argument that nobody can know when things are bad. And then they all go silent with regards to what this all implies. Funny how that equation always comes true each time. You can know when things go bad. This sort of kills off the conclusions that certain things must happen because each spin is independent. Even though a 4 to 8 deck shoe is not independent, the randomness that flows from it as data still is pretty much similar. You can know the conditions.

 

It does work. It also digs holes 11 units deep. It takes 11 hands to catch back up. Your stop loss won't change outcomes. If I stopped at 3 net unit wins I would still have to recover from the 11 units lost from time to time. It's harder to just flat bet, but you can stop at a lower lost position. I play 3 net wins to win a session and 7 lost units as a stop loss in a session. It's easier for me to see the bad spots when I flat bet. I switch to unfunded guesses in my charts. They are real guesses, but they can't cost me anything if they lose. I had a student pull off 4.5 won sessions to each single lost session at 7 net losses per session. It takes 2.333 sessions won to pay back one lost session. Now that is someone that had never been trained in trend identification before me. And that was after 60 hours of instruction and practice. So you can figure out how to see the trends. I suspect that you need to build your bankroll. So while you do that learn how to see the trends. There are the bet selection trends and the results trends. Master both and you will start to do very well.

 

Gizmotron - it seems as though you are a seasoned roulette player. Is that correct? If so, would you be interested in my new method of playing? It’s been winning well. I just need to figure out my stop wins and stop losses.

 

I didn't go on with the system only because the casino changes the shoes every time and it felt useless to use it without knowing the past result of the new shoe.

 

Past results are useless . Just play a solid method of your choice and accept the consequence be it win or loss .


YOU , the player should be in control but NOT the shoe .


Learn how to win . I am winning at Baccarat and at Roulette EC with a certain bet selection .



ND

 

Can you share the bet selection?
I've heard before about "random" beats "random" with a good bet selection and i am pretty sure that's what God is doing with his system.

 

My bet selection for roulette EC is NOT random but it is based on a principle of diminishing probabilities .

Baccarat bet selection Bank when it shows and commence 2-1-2 series betting method with strict Money Management .


NO Martingale. No replaying of net wins . Set Loss limit.


Bankroll for ONE session of Baccarat 30 times table minimum. Be prepared for 3 sessions to win 2 out of 3 sessions .



ND

 

PS


Whenever a loss occurs during the series betting occurs then stop and wait until your selection shows again .Just watch the loss limit.




ND

 

Just find the true balance point. Your stop wins should not be so far out that it lets you hit the bad stretches too often. My stop wins are based on what I need to get from a session. In practice I know I will win enough sessions to equal about twice as much as I would have lost from a single losing session. So I stop at 3 net wins. I also stop at 7 net losses. I win about 5 sessions to each lost session. It's all EC bet selections.

So you need to figure out what the results of your stop wins and stop losses equates to. Mine equate to a little better than 2 wins for every loss. It takes 2.333 won sessions at three net wins to equal one 7 unit session loss. I win more than 4.66 times per each lost session. (That's 2.33 X 2 = 4.66) So 3 X's 4.66 = 14. (14 - 7 = 7) So that explains the 2 to 1 ratio.

You must find your own ratio that you like the best from your system.