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Roulette More on that so called Fallacy.

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by TurboGenius, Jan 4, 2019.

  1. Bago

    Bago Well-Known Member

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    Ok but this is not a group therapy about sexual problems here, this is a gambling forum.
     
  2. Nathan Detroit

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    Blago,I


    I don't pay any attention to this forum troll John Blerg .


    ND
     
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  3. Roger

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    John, your definition of STD is interest should not want to click; indeed this is a forum for Gambling..
     
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  4. John Blerg

    John Blerg Well-Known Member 👹 Troll 👹

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    why is it I always see everybody with some kind of system they talked about hot something hot hands hot cards hot numbers and similar things, they're just always lose their money and I mean always like every single time they play and then they're grinding their way back trying to get their buy in money back that's it, ithat's all I see.
     
  5. Bago

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    You should know the vast majority of gambling forum members do not play for real money, it's all about talk, testing on virtual money mode and ego.
     
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  6. Bago

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    There is a glitch with the RX Min Interval statistics, indeed it calculates since the beginning of a new session, for example spin 1 is n°20, then the Min interval should still be zero since it must be calculated between Two hits, but with the current calculation it works like this: spin 1: 20 = min interval = 1 /// spin 2: 14 = min interval = 2 WHICH IS FUCKING WRONG AND I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF IT IS TURBOGENIUS WHO ASKED THE RX ADMIN TO CALCULATE IT THIS WAY OR IF HE NEVER NOTICED THE PROBLEM LOL!!!
     
  7. John Blerg

    John Blerg Well-Known Member 👹 Troll 👹

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    I was nto really sure of that, but i am beginning to see that so vividly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Sad, Yes really that is sad because of there actions. It would be the same as someone in good health pointing at a poor health person out in public and laughing at them out loud! Same shit, sad people with their fucked up actions!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     

  8. Ivo

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    Hi gentlemen, TG and Eddy
    I would like to understand your idea.
    for example: if I select 3 or 4 numbers which are above their average then every time I am sure that one of these numbers will hit in next 37 spins or sooner. I only need to solve MM for it.
    Is it correct please? Or am I wrong? Many thanks for your help.
     
  9. Bago

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    Ivo,

    1) Your avatar suppose that you are from Bungladesh not Europe.
    2) Turbo/Eddy is the same person.
    3) I give you the progression for 3 numbers: 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 3, 3, 3, 3, 4, 4, 4, 5, 5, 6, 6, 7, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14
    For 4 numbers: 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 2, 2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 4, 5, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 14, 16, 18, 20, 22, 25, 28, 32, 36, 40, 45
    4) Now I solved your Money Management problem, would you be kind enough to resolve mine: "I am sure that one of these numbers will hit in next 37 spins or sooner."

    Thanks you.
     
  10. jekhb1976

    jekhb1976 Well-Known Member

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    Why on earth do you think that bago?
     
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  11. jekhb1976

    jekhb1976 Well-Known Member

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    You don't need Rx to chart.
    if you're playing in a bm casino you also don't have rx with you, now do you?
    charting is simple, just chart 1 location at a time.
     
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  12. Bago

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    Eddy is the diminutive/nickname of Edward which is Turbo's first name.
     
  13. jekhb1976

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    ok, so, i understand.
    the only problem is, he's from Atlanta City (US) and i'm from Holland. :)
     
  14. jekhb1976

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    About charting:
    Take pen and paper and write down for example all 12 streets and behind it how long it took before one of them got hit. Do this until all the streets got hit atleast once.

    01 0 1 1 1 1 1
    02 0 0 2 2 2 2
    03 0 0 0 3 3 3
    04 0 0 0 0 4 4
    05 0 0 0 0 0 0
    06 0 0 0 0 0 0
    07 0 0 0 0 0 0
    08 0 0 0 0 0 0
    09 0 0 0 0 0 0
    10 0 0 0 0 0 0
    11 0 0 0 0 0 0
    12 0 0 0 0 0 0

    etc etc. you keep track of this until all streets have hit once.
    Once that is done, you can easly see wich street has the highest MI. (the last street that got hit for the first time). at this point you will have also a nice overview wich numbers come in second, third, fourth with highest MI.
    you start with the highest number and keep track of all other streets also. once a street has the same MI as the one you are betting on, you take that street in you're betting.
    untill there is no one left and all have returned to "1" and you're session is over.

    see, simple.
    p.s.
    you can now also easly see wich numbers never will be bet on.
    for the above example, you will never bet on street number 1, because it already has a mi of '1'
     
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  15. Ivo

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    Dear Bago

    add 1) I am really from Europe, my avatar is joke only :)
    add 2) Eddy like jekhb1976
    add 3) thanks a lot :)
    add 4) example: I watch these numbers 13, 20, 27, 29.
    number 13 - hits on spin no. 59 - next hit on spin no. 82
    number 20 - hits on spin no. 77 - next hit on spin no. 147
    number 27 - hits on spin no. 69 - next hit on spin no. 76
    number 29 - hits on spin no. 91 - next hit on spin no. 127

    do you see it please?
     
  16. jekhb1976

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    Ivo,
    can i make a sugestion?
    only start betting once a one of you're numbers shows, not sooner. just a tip.
    so in you're example, you're numbers show at;
    13) 59 - 82 you would had +13 on this #
    20) 77 - 147 (raise after 37 spins).
    27) 69 - 76 you would had +29
    29) 91- 127 you would had +1

    glad to help.
    j.e.
     
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  17. Bago

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    1) I do not see the link between the first name Eddy and the username jekhb1976.
    2) I do not see the advantage of your examples, it is not because a number has two consecutive Min Interval > 37 that the hit rate of the third interval will be under 37, it is still 1/37 odds and you are paid 35/1. Same if you wait for a 500 spins sleeper, when it hits after this long negative STD deviation, it still has 1 in 37 chance of appearing next.
     
  18. Ivo

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    great idea, thank you so much :D
     
  19. Ivo

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    Mr. Bago

    a) use this tracker - ayk(dot)bplaced(dot)net/rolling37v2/

    b) make 500 or 1000 spins and try to see what is going on

    Have a successful day :)
     
  20. TurboGenius

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    Ohhhhhh 13 pages in and still the haters won't understand what's been explained.

    Person A) and Person B) (Turbo and Bago ?) sit down at the table.
    I'll use actual spins to explain this - it won't help....

    Bago plays #32 and the Smart Turbo watches.

    On spin 196 #32 appears. Bago finally wins his bet.
    Of course his win rate is 1 in 196 and in order to profit he needs 1 in 35 or better.
    Smart Turbo starts playing #32.

    20 spins later - on spin 216 #32 appears again. (is it magic ?)
    Bago is now winning 1 in 108 and in order to profit he needs 1 in 35 or better. Sad.
    Smart Turbo won as well - his stats are 1 in 20 and he makes profit. They play on

    13 spins later - on spin 229 #32 appears again (magic ?)
    Bago is now winning 1 in 76.33 and nowhere near 1 in 35 - he's still in the hole.
    Turbo won as well - he's winning 1 in 16.5 spins and well into profit. They play on.

    28 spins later - on spin 257 #32 appears again (hmm, wonder if it's catching up ?)
    Bago is now winning 1 in 64.25 and not good enough.
    Turbo won as well - winning 1 in 20.3 spins and doing just fine. They play on.

    39 spins later - on spin 296 #32...
    Bago is now winning 1 in 59.2 and not good enough.
    Turbo won as well - winning 1 in 25 spins and doing just fine. Why bother but they play on.

    7 spins later - on spin 303.....#32
    Bago in now winning 1 in 50.5 and not good enough.
    Turbo won as well - winning 1 in 21.4 and doing just fine.....

    Bago's averages (spins per win on average) : 1 in 50.5 spins with 6 wins and in debt.
    Turbo's averages (spins per win on average) : 1 in 21.4 spins with 5 wins and high into profit.

    See the difference ?
    See how #32 is catching up to the known average of 1 in 37 ?
    Bago's average is dropping from 1 in 196 to 108 to 76.3 to 64.2 to 59.2 to 50.5
    because #32 is returning (oooooooops DRIFTING) towards 37 where no one
    disputes it is supposed to be at.
    Turbo's average is steady(ish) from 1 in 20 to 16.5 to 20.3 to 25 to 21.4
    because #32 is DRIFTING towards 1 in 37 where again NO ONE disagrees this
    is the long term average for #32 appearing....

    One player wins and the other loses - since Bago took the 196 spin hit without a win,
    his average returning to 1 in 37 is a slow trail to walk down - not to mention over time
    the house edge will remove any chances he had/has to profit.
    Turbo played the same number - but by allowing it to show first made his win rate
    right around average (even better in this case).

    Charts ?
    Bago -
    Bago.png

    Turbo -
    Turbo.png

    These charts are IDENTICAL - aside from 1 thing.
    Smart Turbo didn't bet on #32 while it was dragging it's own average
    down to 1 in 196 and Bago did.
    Other than that - it's the same game, the same number, the same flat betting
    on every spin.

    You can't lose any $ by not betting on a number that doesn't appear (potential sleeper,
    like #32 in this example) Now as the number "DRIFTS" towards it's expected 1 in 37
    the Smart Turbo prevails easily.

    Silly how easy and simple this is - yet they argue simple math.

    I won't be posting any more in this thread, it's time to move on.
    People who want to argue about simple math will argue with themselves.
     
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