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Roulette More on that so called Fallacy.

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by TurboGenius, Jan 4, 2019.

  1. jekhb1976

    jekhb1976 Well-Known Member

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    I did say A, so i also say B. i'm a man of my word. i'll do it.
     
  2. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Mr. J - Ken said something a while ago in another thread, it was classic
    and it seems no one was paying attention.

    At Celtic he would notice the "cold numbers" listing at a wheel,
    he would come back in a hour or a period of time later and most/some
    of the numbers were now on the "hot numbers" side.

    But to the class clowns - somehow playing a cold number that turns into a
    hot number is something they can't understand lol.
    "Oh.... so you went from hot numbers to playing cold numbers !!!!"
    They deserve the dunce cap and the seat in the back of the class for not
    even understanding basic things about the game.
    That's why the biggest anti-Turbo/etc posters on these forums make little
    to nothing in the casino for profits.
    (With the exception of Sir No One No One and his unicorn wheels).
    I'm sure he does well even after all the costs associated with hunting
    and tracking unicorns across the country. But that's too much work for me -
    any casino, and wheel and any time I can win. Oh wait, I must be lying.
     
  3. Sharptracker

    Sharptracker Well-Known Member

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    I don't think anybody said it was impossible to gamble and make a rampage, even being up for a long moment... And this is one thing... But pretend beating the roulette is another thing which is wrong.

    As i told, if i follow your way to see things, then a ponzi system is a holygrail also.
     
  4. Nathan Detroit

    Nathan Detroit Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Replaying net wins is a Ponzi scheme ....... .No 2 ways to slice the mustard .


    ND
     
  5. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

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    jekhb1976,

    You're a newbie. For starters you don't grasp that expectation isn't enough to win. The probability of winning is 1 in 38 for a payout that's only 35 to 1. This means that when a number is hitting at expectation (at it's average as you call it) the player will lose TWO units every 38 spins in the long run. This means that you will drift farther and farther away from break even the longer you play.

    After 38 spins your expectation is to be 2 units behind break even.
    After 380 spins your expectation is to be 20 units behind break even.
    After 3800 spins your expectation is to be 200 units behind break even.
    After 38000 spins your expectation is to be 2000 units behind break even.
    As you can see, you're losing ground quickly, even if you're lucky enough to have your numbers hitting at expectation (average). THEFOOL-Cover-RGB_large.jpg



    Good luck. You're going to need it.
     
    Last edited: Jan 16, 2019
  6. Nathan Detroit

    Nathan Detroit Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    WHY lose when you can win ?


    ND
     
  7. Ivo

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    Friends, I don´t speak english very well, I want to say that we have to study TG´s idea and check if he is correct or not.
    see in picture, each number has specific average in each number of spin, maybe we can predict what happens in every cycle (37 spins).
    It is our homework :D.


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  8. Bago

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    Incorrect since 15 years the Min Interval Strategy has already been tested.
     
  9. Nathan Detroit

    Nathan Detroit Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Losers galore on these forums .Copy cats of others failures .QA generation without common sense .




    ND
     
  10. Ivo

    Ivo New Member

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    Thanks to these experienced members that only can write - no, not possible, without invent, without common sense, never, no way, nobody can do it, shit, BS, mega BS etc. this kind of discussion is realy helpful. And I like it :)
     
  11. Nathan Detroit

    Nathan Detroit Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Ivo


    You are surrounded by winners . You have discovered the cave of the Holy Grail .

    What more can one expect .



    ND
     
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  12. NASty

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    This answer always comes to my mind when I think about ur way to play. For number 20 u wrote raise after 37 spins. So is it possible that your mm has something to do with progression during several cycles? So for this ex. You dont start the prog after the next hit after 70 but during, so the num 20 is below the avg and shows once at 77. now you raise your stake after the first 37 not shown the 20. same here after 74 you would rise again and so on so that you will recover the losses?

    With this strategy i also would get in profit with my last numbers Of my streets which i posted some days before
     
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  13. NASty

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    But turbo always said he is usin a positive prog so that can not be the factor. Still dont know to handle the mm where there are too many numbers/locations which got up and downs before they will reach the average point
     
  14. jekhb1976

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    i will give you all a clue....
    we don't bet numbers that are running on average!
    please read befor sir no one and taco come home again :)
     

  15. jekhb1976

    jekhb1976 Well-Known Member

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    that's not correct, sorry. you gotta read deeper.
     
  16. jekhb1976

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    Guys, it's all about balance. that's as deep as i go.
     
  17. jekhb1976

    jekhb1976 Well-Known Member

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    please don't let all the clows on this forum mislead you. they still at kindergarden level. they can only insult and draw pictures of a guy who's head is shackin' all the time :)
    listen to turbo and me. re-read, test and you'll get there.
    j.e.
     
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  18. jekhb1976

    jekhb1976 Well-Known Member

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    i will try as help as much as i can without give it all on a silver platter. but i'll do my best to help out.
     
  19. NASty

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    yes I think I already know the principles of ur strategy. I know u are betting on numbers which are below the average ( like -2 or -3 sdt ). I also looked at your results to the 200 numbers 2 pages before but I couldn't count the 50 hits so I still dont know your correct bet selection or how many numbers u are betting at the same time. But for me It happens too often, that the numbers will reach the average indeed but it take too long with too many losing cycles in between, so that I won't profit. Especially when Turbo said he is usin a positive progression it doesnt work with my bet selection.
    I continue with thinking about everything. But Thank you for your help!
     
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  20. NASty

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    One question.. sometimes we talk about numbers which are below averages and betting on them and sometimes we are talkin about the strategy of "minimum intervalls" , so what are u doin? :D
     

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