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Roulette "You have to win flat betting"

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by TurboGenius, Jan 23, 2019.

  1. Benas

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    All is nice you show 3.71 STD, what talk about ideally not random situation. All is perfect, with one but.....
    I can post even better situation - all the same as in your case but say not 14 but 24 wins .... 8.1 STD and such will show that I am better player !.
    Then Bago will post all the same with 34 wins .. and so on and so on.
    If you do not understand I will translate to you - such postings can post everybody, but they will be only posts, till nobody others will see reality...
     
  2. John Blerg

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    Wasnt this dude the 1 on the other forum named Xavier or xanlander????????
     
  3. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Thanks for your usual nonsense post that contributes nothing.
    I'm sure Benas won't tell you that all you do is talk and say nothing. lol

    So glad I'm not part of your crew of misfits.
     
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  4. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    He has MANY many names on forums, it's all part of the Secret Unicorn Hunting Team of AP professionals.
    Who somehow have time to hang out on forums and try to learn how to win - all the while pretending
    they are the superior players and only here for secret contacts to join the S.U.H.T !
    Then they distract relevant conversations with nonsense and insult members who contribute.
    It's strange to say the least. You could make up a story like this but no one would believe it.
     
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  5. jekhb1976

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    Will be at the Thieves Den for a few hours.
    Let's see if i can find some Unicorns there :)
     
  6. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

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    Turbo,

    Most of us really don't know what the point is that you're trying to make in your original post. You're kind of all over the place and almost contradicting yourself at times. Please clarify

    1. Are you saying that bet sizing has an effect on the house edge?

    2. Are you saying that bet sizing does NOT have an effect on the house edge?

    3. Are you saying that a progression can turn a losing system into a winning system in the long run?

    4. Are you saying that a progression can NOT turn a losing system into a winning system in the long run?
     
  7. Benas

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    I am sure that for them answers to such questions not only not interesting more - they even afraid them :)
     

  8. Bago

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    Remember, Turbo won't give you the HolyGrail on a silver platter, you need to decode all the hints he is kindly giving you if you want it.
     
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  9. Fossell

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    Bloody hell mate! This is obvious isn't it? I'm surprised that someone who's on here as much as you misses the point?
    (or are you just stirring for the fck of it LMAO!)
    He's simply stating (again) that its selection that matters. Flat or progression delivers the same result.
    Progression simply amplifies the success or failure of your bet selections. Surely everyone can agree on that??
     
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  10. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Indeed.
    The point of my thread (Sir No One) is that you and your crew continuously preach
    that something has to work flat betting or else it has no value.
    I clearly demonstrated and pointed out that there is no MATH difference between
    using a progression or flat bet - so your justification for a system being good or bad is
    flawed miserably.
    A progression only amplifies the result, period.
    So when you demand a flat bet as proof - just look at the results and negate the progression
    part in your head - the results will be less of a profit in $ but still (exactly) the same
    in edge.

    It's basic stuff Sir No One - you post to argue and disrupt but when it gets down to it,
    you argue with yourself because you are wrong.

    I have a hard time understanding what you type. It's a language barrier perhaps.
    I've explained everything. From your posts I only have come to understand that unless
    I play in your casino in your room and win - my points are worthless to you.
    You also complain that it's "ALL TALK" - yet this is a forum where the point is to make and
    reply to posts, there's nothing here aside from "talking" that can be accomplished.

    There's not many hints at all - just information.
    I could give you a recipe for making the most amazing dish you've ever had. Complete
    with cooking directions.
    YOU on the other hand will complain that I didn't come to your house and make it for you.
    I'm sorry if you feel the world works that way. Where I come from - things aren't given
    to you without an effort on your part.

    It's not "most of us". It's a few of you - the crowd who won't understand (or admit to understanding)
    ANYTHING posted that shows a winning way to play. Since you don't accept such a thing
    exists - there's no point explaining it to "you". Other people understood the post.
     
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  11. Benas

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    Of course English is not my first language, even not second....but interesting what is not clearly written, can point.
    Till now I read only words, unfortunately, but I not believe. Everyone can say such. I can very simply say why I win ( when win ) and that is logical and natural. I simply know to which numbers ball have higher chance to hit in which less and that confirmed by data which I collect. If next data will be similar to what was in past - I will win, because I do a copy of past mine play. If next data will be other - I will lose of course but when I see that all is very random for me, I simply stop and not play and wait till something will changes. Somehow, but you cant gave arguments from where comes your edge? So the only way to see. Not must be mine wheel you can bet on any online wheel but must be some who look that and confirm that you played with an edge.

    I calculated that your result in your chart is 3.7 STD over normal. Such impossible if you do not predict, so when not know where ball preferably will land.

    So accordingly your chart - you have an edge, but you can't explain from where come that your edge. If ball go to stop in zero but you bet 5/10 on European wheel ( so opposite to zero ) - you have very small chances to win in that spin no matter that 5/10 not fallen hundred times.
    Ball fall not where was no hits long time but where its energy drops to some critical meaning and that energy not know what fall before ... :)
     
  12. JacobBlaze

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    Stats worth mentioning :
    Min numbers bet = 2
    Max numbers bet = 8
    Most bet on table any spin = $80 or 8 units
    Least bet on table any spin = $10 or 1 unit

    hi turbo

    thanks for your post, i have the ususal crew on ignore so forgive me if this has been asked.

    are you playing splits or a combination of splits and straight up?
    Min numbers bet = 2
    Least bet on table any spin = $10 or 1 unit
    330 total straight up bets placed
    14 wins
     
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    This is my session for today. It is flat bet, it's also $10 bets. Minimum locations bet on is 1, max in this session is 6. Turbo more than explained enough to figure it out. Mine isn't exactly charting as his as I wait to bet first 37 spins but 95 spins, around $1400 profit.
     
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  14. TurboGenius

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    Only straight up numbers.

    I was hoping (well, not hoping really) Bago would have noticed that and went
    all "Bago" on me. HOW DID YOU BET MIN 2 NUMBERS FLAT BETTING WHEN THE MIN BET WAS 1 UNIT.

    He's really slipping.
    It's sort of a complicated (kidding, not complicated) way to bet. Was flat betting beginning to end
    though, no progression.
     
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  15. trellw24

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    Hey Turbo, I was wondering if you can chime in on my question about repeats, it's on the thread where you posted the video
     
  16. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

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    Turbo,

    No, it's more than just a few of us that aren't sure what the point was that you were trying to make. You're not always the most articulate poster and your wild claims to tend to change with the wind.

    Next question, do you know what hitting at or above expectation means?

    If so, would you describe your bets as..

    1. Only betting on numbers that are at expectation?
    2. Only bets that are one hit above expectation?
    3. Only bets that are two hits above expectation?
    4. Only bets that are one or more hits above expectation?

    I saw previously that you wildly claim to have something like a 20% edge. If so, then why on earth are you running an up as you lose progression instead of betting a percentage of your bankroll? Mathematically if you have an edge, then betting an up as you lose progression doesn't make sense.
     
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  17. Mako

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    Hahah that’s awesome, nice Nimo. ;)
     
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  18. jekhb1976

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    One Example:
    Cycle 1
    place a unit on all numbers that hit twice up till max 8, until cycle ends at spin 37.
    Cycle 2
    Place a unit on all numbers that hit 3 times and add them as they come up till max 8, until cycle ends at spin 74.
    Cycle 3
    Place a unit on all numbers that hit 4 times and add them as they come up till max 8, until cycle ends at spin 111.
    Cycle 4
    Place a unit on all numbers that hit 5 times and add them as they come up till max 8, until cycle ends at spin 148.

    note:
    Once you got a hit, don't remove any numbers.
    At the beginning of a cycle, say you need to pick all numbers that hit 3 times, ignore the ones that hit more times, only selecr the 3 hit numbers.
    You will be suprised about the chart :)

    Good luck,
    j.e.
     
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  19. jekhb1976

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    This is called, possitive betselction! :)
    A. you don't fight against, 37 numbers.
    B. you have just created a possitive edge wich is now in you favour.
    C. the odds are now not 1:37 anymore.
    D. Random has now to fight against you, instead of fighting against random.

    stay save.
     
  20. Bago

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    The last time you claimed you found the HolyGrail on repeaters, it needed an aggressive progression at least 1-2-4-8-16-32, it could not even work with a +1 unit on the numbers that appeared. Now you acknowledge when a system does not work FLAT BET, then it won't work with a PROGRESSION. In a nutshell, you just proved we were right and you lied to us. And now you want us to take you seriously with your new HolyGrail system. Don't you think that's slightly insulting?.
     

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