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Roulette Want a HG? Here's One

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by jekhb1976, Jan 29, 2019.

  1. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

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    Jekhb,

    By all means don't let us tell you that you're wrong. Get out there and increase your bets. Prove us wrong.

    Just curious though...why was it that you weren't able to beat the MPR game again???.
     
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  2. NASty

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    Thank you for your information , but what has betting the hot comes now to do with your "Dozen wont replicate itself" ?
    Maybe It's just me who doesn't understand this.
     
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  3. Sharptracker

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    I wouldn't have lost anything, i'm not enough stupid to see HG every corner's street and bet because i've noticed sleepers in a dozen... I musn't smoke enough tulips as you do .
     
  4. NASty

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    So just for understanding to do things right..

    After tracking 37 spins I have the following numbers unhit / Sleepers:

    6, 7, 13, 14, 15, 22, 25 , 29 , 30 , 31, 32, 34


    20
    4
    10
    7 ( 1 u )
    8
    26
    10
    29 ( 1 u )
    7 ( Reached new high, RETRACK LAST 37 Spins)

    New Numbers:

    1, 6, 13, 14, 15, 22, 33, 25, 28 30, 31, 32, 34

    21
    14 ( 1u )
    17
    1 ( 1u )
    10
    32 ( 1u )
    18
    1 ( WIN, Reached new High, Track again )

    New Numbers:

    0, 6 , 11, 13, 15, 22, 23, 25, 28, 30, 31, 33, 34, 36

    16
    8
    26
    26
    6 ( 1u )
    32
    1
    5
    34 ( 1u )
    22 ( 1u )
    19
    32
    4
    32
    21
    19
    6 ( 1u , reached new high, so track again) ..

    If I wouldnt have a new high , continue betting till 37 spins or a new high with u pos progr.
    If now new high after 37 spins, retrack and double the stake?

    Thank you a lot..
     
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  5. Buffalowizard

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    Good job guys. Can the same premise be translated to the streets to quicken things up a bit? Wait for the 4 least hit etc....?
     
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  6. jekhb1976

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    Exactly!
    When not at a new high after 37 spins, you can also raise the bets on the remaining unhits and continue from there until a new high is reached, and start over with 1u base bet again. just a tip
     
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  7. jekhb1976

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    you can play this on any location and win.
    just make sure that when you are betting on streets, lines, quads, splits etc, that you always cover the zero with 1 unit.
    and on streets i suggest to start after 12 spins and look what sleepers there are and go along with those.
     

  8. Sputnik

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    Now I am getting confused with the last sample.

    If dozen one hit with 6 7
    And dozen two hit with 13 14 15 22
    And dozen three hit with 29 30 31 32 34

    Then I should play 29 30 31 32 34 positions in a dozen one and two plus zero
    Total 11 numbers

    What am i getting wrong with this picture
     
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  9. jekhb1976

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    it's all about repeating of a sequence wih is almost impossible due to random.
    when i play and track 37 spins and look wich unhits are per dozen, it's also a pattern, that won't repeat itself in the next 37 spins.
     
  10. jekhb1976

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    The lack of understanding that sir and his friends have trouble with is that you will never see 111 spins, with more then 10 unhits still left, it just won't.
    So to clear this up, if you track the unhits from the first 37 spins, let's say i have 15 unhits from those, then you can bet your ass on it that i will get atleast 5 of them in the next 37 spins! this is not hocus pocus, but a fact. so lets say you have had 5 at spin 74 wich now leaves 10 unhit. you will atleast get another 3 in the next 37 spins. and i say least, because what about the unhits that show and show more after? think about it.
    if you put tr right MM in, you can't lose anymore.
    So far all those naysayers say that i'm wrong, that turbo is wrong but they haven't prove anything yet that they are right.
     
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  11. NASty

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    Ok thank you. So after 37 spins betting when im not in profit, And maybe i have 3 6 9 34 28 as unhit left and one of these # hit i dont start with 1 unit as before on it but with 2 for example?

    Thank you, and you did 1 2 4 so a martingale ?

    Thanks a lot will test it
     
  12. NASty

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    You are totally right, the only problem I maybe see is that with our betting selection we also assume that a few of the unhits I will bet on will become repeaters and not only uniques
     
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  13. 6th-sense

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    try the progression i suggested to sergio on other thread...bet all numbers 5 spins even if hit during its and its in minus ..divide losses amongst the unhit numbers again for 5 spins ..and same for next 5 spins...
    progression will look like turbos agressive progression...though this will work up to at least 20 spins without getting massivley out of control..
    this is used for unhits really after a cycle if you can guarantee so many hits within 20 spins which is usually about 3 to 4 hits
     
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  14. jekhb1976

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    it's not a problem at all, it's a gods gift! those will make you chart rise up.
     

  15. jekhb1976

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    Thanks, will have a go, good idea indeed!
     
  16. NASty

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    So
    So.. 37 spins. I got 12 unhit numbers. Now i bet all 12 numbers with 1u for 5 spins. Now i got 1 hit and 4 not. So i am 24u in minus. 11 unhits remainig. 24:11 = 2.2 so i bet the 11 remaining unhits with 2.2 units and so on?
     
  17. Jerome

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    Sure, it's because in the first case (the 7,400 spins) you're looking for the "felt" dozens which you've "preselected", but in the second case (law of the third) the dozens aren't preselected by you but "selected" by the wheel itself. The probability of a preselected event occurring is always a lot smaller than if it isn't preselected, for the simple reason that in the preselected case, there are far less ways it can occur.

    Gambler's fallacy. Pick any dozen and the probability will be exactly the same that it shows in the next 37 spins. The dozen selected by the law of the third was not preselected by you, by now you HAVE preselected it for the next 37 spins, and the probability of it hitting is the same as any other preselected dozen.

    Nope, wrong big time. This is another common fallacy (which is really just GF again). "A dozen has not to appear for 74 spins" is incorrect. The FIRST 37 spins has gone so the probability is now certainty (you know what happened), meaning the probability is 1 (a probability is between 0 and 1, where 0 = impossible and 1 = certain). The probability of no dozen, or at least one dozen, or whatever the event of interest is over the 74 spins is the probability of what happened in the first 37 spins, namely 1, multiplied by the probability (whatever it is) of the event of interest over the NEXT 37 spins. And multiplying a number by 1 just gives the number itself.

    This is just another way of saying that you can ignore the first 37 spins for purposes of calculation, which you should, because it's an event which has already occurred and therefore has no bearing on future events (independent trials, remember?).
     
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    The whole concept of systems based on "rare" events just doesn't work, as anyone who has done even a small amount of testing quickly finds out. This is because ALL events are in a sense equally rare, at least events which consist of the same number of spins. The longer the sequence over which the event occurs, the rarer it is, but for any given length there is no difference in the rarity. eg the probability of the sequence RBRRB has exactly the same probability as RRRRR, even though the former looks more "random". You can make an event more rare just by choosing a longer sequence, but betting against it doesn't confer any advantage in terms of increasing the number of wins, it just means that it's more likely that you will get AT LEAST ONE win over the whole sequence, but that would be the case for ANY sequence, not just the one you've picked out as being especially "rare".
     
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  19. 6th-sense

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    you seem to know quite a bit Jerome..plus SIR anyone..i,m interested in how you both aproach the game yourselves?
    Lott or equilibrium i personally call is there..would either of you both use this?
    if not why not?
    turbo and jekky seemed to be bashed a lot on here..so if there ideas can,t work what do you suggest?
     
  20. TurboGenius

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    Steve's sidekick monkey wants to know. lol
    If you won at MPR it would instantly be called rigged, or a malfunction in the
    game which (last time I played it) was filled with malfunction.
    Real casino play doesn't matter to Sir No One, he demands a silly pretend game on
    a forum for proof - then it won't count because silly games and simulations
    are silly games to him and not proof of anything. (unless it's a silly pretend game
    where Steve can see your bets in the logs and who knows from that point, it might
    just end up on a page on his forum for $50.00 and a free trial of a computer that
    you can "sort of" "legally" use in 50% of the casinos).

    What strange fellas.
    It's all part of the childish nonsense they spout.
    Pretend game is pretend results don't matter yet requires pretend game as proof.
    It must be like a bowl of spaghetti in that brain of his lol
     
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