1. Welcome to the #1 Gambling Community with the best minds across the entire gambling spectrum. REGISTER NOW!
  2. Have a gambling question?

    Post it here and our gambling experts will answer it!
    Dismiss Notice
  3. Discussions in this section are assumed to be EV- as they are outside of the Advantage Play section. For EV+ discussions, please visit the Advantage Play section.
    Dismiss Notice

Roulette The Turbo Thread

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by trellw24, Feb 2, 2019.

  1. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2015
    Likes:
    1,794
    Occupation:
    Self proclaimed Theoretical Philosopher
    Location:
    Near Atlantic City New Jersey
    Good idea ! Maybe I'll do that and Sir No One will be happy, his math will work out
    (well, no - I need to be HUGE negative by now - I'll have to lose A LOT of my own money
    too just to please him lol)

    I did what you said at Parx Online and lost it all on purpose, said so ahead of time.
    Still got nailed to the cross by Bago saying I lost it all because my system failed.
    Welcome to the word where you can't win.
    Nothing you do, nothing you show, nothing you say - you can't win.
    I'm here though - abuse me at will I guess :)
     
  2. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2015
    Likes:
    1,794
    Occupation:
    Self proclaimed Theoretical Philosopher
    Location:
    Near Atlantic City New Jersey
    It makes me seriously consider what the motives of certain posters are.
    There's always a "why" to everything. They are in full force posting in teams
    to argue - there has to be a reason. I'm thinking conspiracy now lol.
     
  3. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2015
    Likes:
    1,794
    Occupation:
    Self proclaimed Theoretical Philosopher
    Location:
    Near Atlantic City New Jersey
    See Sir No One at the other place ?

    Again, no one plays for real in the casino to him if they are system players.

    NOT EVEN ME.
    I was at the SAME casino - he saw me playing at the table........he had a unicorn captured
    and made it pay !
    FFS man ! lol. He's insane. It's a no win/no win every time butting heads with a simpleton.
     
    jekhb1976 and trellw24 like this.
  4. stringbeanpc

    stringbeanpc Member

    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2016
    Likes:
    13
    Location:
    Canada
    Yes, there are a number of posters just looking to harass, belittle, and argue with you.

    BUT remember, There are a few of us who ask intelligent questions, test and want to learn !
     
    jekhb1976 and trellw24 like this.
  5. jekhb1976

    jekhb1976 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 5, 2019
    Likes:
    333
    Location:
    Holland
    You arw right, just let the nysayers of the clow club go ed, don't bother reacting to their post, they don't deserve your time man.
     
    stringbeanpc likes this.
  6. jekhb1976

    jekhb1976 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 5, 2019
    Likes:
    333
    Location:
    Holland
    i'm sorry to say this, but this is just picking random numbers. this ain't gonna work. i'm pretty sure there is more to it. turbo will explain it further i'm sure.
     
    Last edited: Feb 4, 2019
    JacobBlaze likes this.
  7. JacobBlaze

    JacobBlaze Active Member

    Joined:
    Jul 12, 2018
    Likes:
    199
    Location:
    Vegas

    yeah, not sure what could be used, hopefully someone picked up a clue or turbo is willing too.

    is your bank roll 1000 units too at real land based casinos? do you know turbos bankroll?

    how do you deal with dealer changes? i feel that this has an effect on spins, but maybe not as any 37 spins should be predictable
     
    jekhb1976 likes this.

  8. jekhb1976

    jekhb1976 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 5, 2019
    Likes:
    333
    Location:
    Holland
    i personaly don't think dealer change has any issues on his playing style.
    for this method, what we are trying to play doesn't require a bank of 1000 units.
    and i don't think its all about the firsr 37 spins either but like the horse racing post from turbo. draw a finish line of lets say 6 hits.
    how do you make sure you're on the top 3-6 numbers?
    just follow the most hitted one doesn't work, ive been there. ive tried all sorts of playstyles over the years, some sessions i got lucky, others were a hell.
    i used to start when a number got to 2 hits, then i woukd bet that number and stayed on that one until others came to 2 hits.
    then when a number would hit for the third time i was in that number and added all 3s that came. but this doesnt work.
     
  9. jekhb1976

    jekhb1976 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 5, 2019
    Likes:
    333
    Location:
    Holland
    1 to 2 bet the 2s up till one turns to 3
    bet all the 3s up tillnone turns to 4
    bet all 4s etc, it just don't work.

    picking the first 3 numbers of every 1s, 2s 3s etc only also doesn't work. before you know it you are in a big hole.
     
    Last edited: Feb 4, 2019
  10. SERGIO

    SERGIO Active Member

    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2018
    Likes:
    74
    Location:
    ESPAÑA
    Hola eddy como estas
    Lo que estoy viendo sobre el estilo de juego Turbo es que requiere progresión porque hay momentos que no son tan precisos en la selección, es lógico, no tenemos una máquina del tiempo, pero creo que puedo responder lo que Jacob está buscando. De una manera que no es una respuesta directa.
    Mire las permanencias en las que apuesta en las repetidas, ¿en realidad porque elige un número repetido y la siguiente no? Detente a verlo bien y te darás cuenta porque es algo simple.
    Por otro lado, realmente no sé si lo que Eddy hace y lo que hace Turbo y lo que voy a presentar es lo mismo, pero creo que vamos de la misma manera ...
    Lo que no entiendo es porque ha mezclado varios temas, intervalo mínimo, patrones, etc., etc.
    Creo que eso confundió más a la gente, no sé si esa fue la idea? jejeje
    Por otro lado, tenemos que estar muy agradecidos con Turbo y Eddy por todo lo que están tratando de enseñar, realmente es algo para aplaudir.
     

    Attached Files:

    stringbeanpc and jekhb1976 like this.
  11. jekhb1976

    jekhb1976 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 5, 2019
    Likes:
    333
    Location:
    Holland
    Thank you Sergio, thats very kind
     
    Last edited: Feb 4, 2019
  12. SERGIO

    SERGIO Active Member

    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2018
    Likes:
    74
    Location:
    ESPAÑA
    I sent you an email a few days ago Eddy, but you did not answer ... If you want we can talk, regards
     
  13. Sharptracker

    Sharptracker Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 12, 2018
    Likes:
    290
    Location:
    Belgium
    Come on guys, now you're able to beat roulette (well suppose to). Plz go all on a live betting website and post your results. I'm so eager to see you in a different position on the Gauss curve and see the luckier one advice what to modify to others. It will be so fun!

    Because, rx doesn't bring and money you know... And start at least with 100/200/500/1000, dont play with 0.10 that only show you're not confident and scared to lose your pantie...
     
    Last edited: Feb 4, 2019
  14. jekhb1976

    jekhb1976 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 5, 2019
    Likes:
    333
    Location:
    Holland
    sorry man, i've checked through 2 weeks of mail, but nothing from you sorry. maybe you can send it again.
     

  15. Jerome

    Jerome Active Member

    Joined:
    Mar 15, 2018
    Likes:
    172
    Occupation:
    Self-Employed
    Location:
    England
    Turbo, I'm not part of any team and I'm not here to harass and belittle you (even though it might appear that way sometimes). I can't speak for the other "misfits" (lol). If you post on public forums you're going to expect different opinions and some posters are going to argue vigorously for them, deal with it. An echo chamber full of yes men would be boring, don't you think? And if you think there's some kind of conspiracy going on, that would apply to both sides. Who potentially has more to gain - the ones pushing the idea that there is a holy grail but won't reveal the details in public, or those who argue that there can be no such thing? ;)

    Not accusing you of anything, just sayin'
     
    Last edited: Feb 4, 2019
    TurboGenius likes this.
  16. SERGIO

    SERGIO Active Member

    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2018
    Likes:
    74
    Location:
    ESPAÑA
    Le envié el correo electrónico a un correo electrónico que comienza como su nombre de usuario, ¿es ese su correo electrónico todavía?
     
  17. JacobBlaze

    JacobBlaze Active Member

    Joined:
    Jul 12, 2018
    Likes:
    199
    Location:
    Vegas
    545 spins not 535
    plus 1164 units, Peso 29100, about $600 USD
    25 peso units


    535.JPG

    here are the spins

    31
    6
    3
    32
    27
    2
    9
    3
    17
    22
    22
    24
    17
    33
    19
    22
    11
    24
    7
    20
    3
    3
    20
    30
    5
    35
    28
    27
    22
    7
    4
    2
    28
    19
    32
    32
    30
    11
    13
    21
    26
    25
    25
    19
    3
    7
    18
    28
    22
    36
    33
    27
    33
    5
    16
    29
    7
    23
    23
    4
    20
    31
    21
    15
    23
    0
    20
    4
    33
    30
    25
    10
    26
    32
    2
    21
    13
    36
    32
    15
    13
    15
    15
    29
    16
    23
    13
    0
    32
    0
    35
    21
    5
    22
    25
    24
    20
    1
    16
    0
    20
    2
    28
    25
    5
    9
    16
    5
    8
    1
    34
    3
    22
    1
    27
    9
    3
    1
    12
    18
    18
    23
    31
    12
    35
    5
    3
    21
    0
    35
    22
    30
    13
    4
    21
    30
    20
    11
    26
    32
    11
    14
    2
    15
    29
    35
    18
    22
    11
    23
    34
    30
    11
    19
    23
    34
    6
    9
    12
    4
    33
    1
    33
    24
    6
    31
    27
    9
    12
    0
    6
    27
    33
    8
    23
    2
    26
    6
    9
    1
    26
    11
    6
    3
    15
    2
    33
    10
    23
    1
    2
    9
    17
    19
    34
    14
    32
    29
    9
    7
    29
    29
    9
    1
    32
    33
    36
    30
    23
    23
    6
    24
    1
    27
    24
    2
    29
    7
    19
    22
    30
    26
    34
    0
    15
    23
    1
    29
    20
    7
    27
    16
    5
    19
    27
    16
    29
    3
    19
    20
    5
    11
    11
    13
    6
    9
    16
    1
    15
    10
    24
    17
    30
    27
    20
    20
    28
    18
    15
    14
    16
    36
    9
    10
    17
    20
    23
    31
    31
    20
    25
    4
    9
    2
    15
    33
    6
    32
    5
    33
    36
    3
    24
    25
    15
    29
    23
    2
    36
    8
    34
    23
    32
    30
    16
    24
    27
    23
    8
    23
    32
    8
    15
    4
    0
    9
    7
    27
    13
    1
    33
    17
    10
    7
    19
    4
    30
    21
    17
    12
    27
    21
    16
    25
    15
    20
    8
    17
    0
    1
    22
    6
    3
    22
    36
    9
    10
    1
    10
    9
    29
    18
    3
    4
    32
    17
    4
    9
    16
    17
    18
    34
    14
    22
    23
    26
    18
    22
    12
    16
    35
    34
    23
    10
    23
    10
    17
    30
    34
    8
    9
    14
    28
    26
    29
    12
    32
    17
    3
    7
    19
    20
    14
    30
    26
    6
    33
    20
    29
    14
    16
    21
    18
    10
    4
    33
    29
    25
    1
    2
    3
    23
    17
    15
    13
    8
    24
    27
    21
    3
    0
    3
    20
    12
    23
    36
    23
    2
    11
    0
    20
    12
    12
    3
    17
    26
    4
    16
    36
    33
    2
    8
    34
    23
    9
    10
    15
    28
    2
    21
    32
    8
    32
    11
    7
    36
    0
    18
    3
    21
    34
    28
    26
    34
    16
    26
    13
    27
    3
    27
    30
    26
    5
    22
    25
    30
    32
    28
    22
    4
    4
    20
    8
    20
    4
    17
    23
    11
    15
    12
    6
    11
    28
    6
    8
    31
    36
    23
    4
    29
    36
    28
    12
    16
    2
    17
    27
    12
    21
    16
    17
    11
    19
    32
    25
    25
    24
    18
    7
    28
    36
    21
    35
    9
    28
    16
    26
    31
    29
    22
    13
    5
    7
    31
    30
    6
    29
    5
    17
    23
    19
    19
    13
    15
    29
    13
    33
    4
    32
    20
    25
    16
    2
    11
    25
     

    Attached Files:

    Herby, Mako and jekhb1976 like this.
  18. jekhb1976

    jekhb1976 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 5, 2019
    Likes:
    333
    Location:
    Holland
    care to explain what you did?
     
  19. Mako

    Mako Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2018
    Likes:
    429
    Location:
    Irvine, CA
    Likely what he described before, the random selection he detailed in the earlier post.

    As you said before Eddy, this has always been the barrier for really being able to test this particular methodology previously, we've never been able to even get close to understanding the bet selection in use.

    TG is selecting certain repeats to follow while passing on others, even within the first ten spins...without tracking any spins or cycles previously.

    It must be something simple then, as simple as how Jacob is doing it, but in a different way...like say playing every other repeat (bet-pass-bet-pass-etc) along with say a distance rule. Like 'every-other-repeat + the amount of spins between the number first landing and then showing up again being less than 10 total spins', that sort of thing.

    You definitely can see it when you test though, just as Jacob is seeing it in his limited testing. If you play with repeats-within-cycles and you've done hundreds of 37-spin cycles during your tests, by hand, you do experience the hitrate and phenomenon of repeats blowing up within short spans...enough so that yes, flat betting them does work.

    It's just a question of correctly targeting a few of the best performers from the beginning, and that's where we're at a standstill currently.

    Thanks to TG for posting more examples this time though, it's really helped get a better understanding of the max numbers in play, the averages, how the progression ebbs and flows, etc., versus our last discussion about it.
     
    Last edited: Feb 5, 2019
    JacobBlaze and trellw24 like this.
  20. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2015
    Likes:
    934
    Occupation:
    Shoe Cobbler
    Location:
    Merica
    Turbo's testing was limited to small statistically insignificant samples.
    The biggest flaw in his thinking was that he felt the method would win on random samples like RNG.org.

    The biggest problem facing the testers is they don't have access to coding or testing the system over statistically relevant sample sizes.
    If they did, then they'd realize the following.

    Betting on the numbers that hit just at expectation or a couple hits above expectation on the random wheel loses at the house edge. FACT

    However, once the system is moved to live wheels, some interesting things begin to happen.
    The method of betting numbers that are above expectation may begin to cut into the house edge. If all of the testers were to group together then they would one day come to realize that the optimum method is to bet only on the numbers that are significantly above expectation, after a statistically relevant number of spins, hoping that the wheel is biased. (I know this because I have millions of spins from live wheels straight out of LV and other parts of the US.) The problem is that none of the testers have access to such large spin files from live wheels and most have only ever tracked a few hundred spins from any live wheel. Now I know many believe the Weisbaden etc..spin files are good, but they're not. They're actually a combination of several wheels moved regularly. The problem is further compounded by the fact that on many wheels across Europe the wheels alternate spin direction, further washing out data.

    upload_2019-2-5_13-10-32.png
    Above, standard deviation graph of Las Vegas live wheel 16,744 spins, one direction.



    At least try optimizing your current bets. If you going to chase the current method, then...

    1. Only bet on live wheels or machines with a real wheel.
    2. Separate data by spin direction.
    3. Bet an amount on each number above expectation that represents the number of times that it has hit.
     

Share This Page