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Roulette Single Number betting strategy by TG

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by Rona, Apr 10, 2019.

  1. Rona

    Rona Active Member

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    I found this strategy, which is one of the old roulette systems of Turbo Genius.
    The explanation is a bit complicated (maybe a modification?) but I like a lot the basic idea of the method.

    Since Turbo is the one who knows most about this method, I would like to ask him, or anyone else with experience, how does it fare? Is it a good approach? Or a losing strategy for the trash bin? Is it worth my time, and eventually money, understanding and applying it?

    Many people talk generally about roulette methods here, but it is hard to find a specific, detailed method and someone to recommend it openly. It seems all the winning methods are secret.

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  2. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Interesting how the video producer mentions what I said -
    take 1/2 of the winning bet amount and round up...
    then explains 1/2 of 3u being 1.5u and then bets 1u on the next cycle.
    1.5u rounded up is 2u, not 1u.
    Then he suggests using 2u instead of 1u (when it should never have been 1u anyway).
    Interesting video though, not done with watching it yet.
     
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  3. theLaw

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    Voice sounds familiar. Is that Reyth from R30?
     
  4. SERGIO

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    Correspondence chance someone downloaded the 1961 nuclear physics random video to send it to me? Because they removed it from YouTube and I would like to have it, if someone downloaded it and has it, if you are so kind to tell me and send it to me.
    Thank you
     
  5. HAL

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    Not worth you're time and money. Trash bin I would say. Why 17? Why betting a number once it's hot, it could go cold for a long time. When you bet the hottest number you're x hits to late. What about time? Let's say you bet 6x35 and maybe you're up 80 bucks, you have to stand or sit for 6-8 hours if it's not very crowded at the table. What if you're down a lot and the table/casino closes(not LV but Europe). When you got no hit after 35 spins and you go to 2 units you have 17 spins to get in to +. This is up when you lose, wrong. You're still stuck on that Caribbean Cruise from last year.
     
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  6. Nathan Detroit

    Nathan Detroit Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Only morons and certified idiots would consider betting one single number .
     
  7. Rona

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    Why you say this? It seems very economical to only bet one number, instead of, say, lay out many chips on the table. Or are you just trolling?
     
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    Betting a single number minimizes the effect of the house edge.
     
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  9. Rona

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    Thanks Turbo for your reply. I take it, that you see some potential on the system.
    I also read your comment in the video about hot vs cold numbers

    Yes. Even if it doesn't theoretically change the house edge, in practice it minimizes its effect in absolute terms, because we bet less.
     
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    Betting 1number is good to last, there is only one number that comes out actually. But variance will be hard to bear.
     
  11. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Youtube has decided to take it down (happens often).
    You can view it here (was uploaded again by someone).
    I would suggest you save it. If you don't have a way to do that I can assist you.
    I would have replied sooner but have been on vacation.
    Cheers.

     
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  12. SERGIO

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    Thanks Turbo!
    On the other hand, I wanted to ask you a question, according to the disintegration, that as well as predicting from 2 to 3, you can also do 1 to 2 truth?
    I'd like to talk to you privately, but I'll talk to you about FaceFace and email, but you answered me, thank you for everything you've given information, you're very big!
    regards
     
  13. thereddiamanthe

    thereddiamanthe Well-Known Member

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    I read about this already somewhere, saying something in relation to the payouts ..

    But if bet is onto numbers on the table instead, all I am doing is just congesting time,
    meanwhile still paying casinos share only on winnings; or .. ?

    Mind you explain detail.
     
  14. Sputnik

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    Rona, I would suggest another way tackle one number where you can stumble on a real bias number if you are lucky.
    You can use a Hot Number Strategy targeting one number and in the worse cases, you will gain some small profits betting one Hot Number.

    The advantage, my opinion, is that you don't waste time tracking several thousands of spins to confirm if a number has a true bias or not.
    The problem most punters have with Hot Number Strategy is the phases when the number becomes cold due to natural fluctuation and become hot with natural fluctuation (variance) there exist some parameters wish can make you read the frequencies of the different phases to make it more clear when to enter and exit betting one hot number.

    This is based upon my opinions and experience and knowledge.

    I combine a known concept from a known and respected Author and the bias model Snowman mention at Gamblers Glen (Caleb) with one particular math/probability estimation model to confirm and validate the hot number (Numbers).

    Cheers
     

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    Sputnik, links to ..
     
  16. Sputnik

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    No need for links I send you everything you need to know - if you show me how to follow one and same wheel around the casino without physical making mark or scratch sign on the wheel.
    Because that is what you need, to follow the same wheel in your local casino using this playing model and during your journey, you might discover that other peak numbers are more favorable after playing and following the same wheel for several thousands of spins.
    If not you start over with a new wheel, sooner or later you will find the wheel that has the bias you are looking for with Caleb's method.

    That is my theory and opinion.

    The easy part is to stand at the end of the table and look at the position of the vertical deflector.
    Is it leaning to the right or left and are the position exact at 12 a clock or to the left or right.

    This helps to know two things, either they moved the wheel or rotate the wheel.
    That is the easy part.

    But how do you recognize the same wheel at another table?
    Lack of experience of defect spotting so is the following just assumptions.

    Maybe there is a way to see that each individual fret on the number ring attaches in a certain way and we can find one number/pocket with some distinct different gap or something else that make the attachment with the fret at that number/pocket different than others on that particular wheel.
    That would help to spot the wheel at another table when they rotate and move the locations of the wheel.

    Find some distinct light reflection pattern on the cone that is not the same movement/motion pattern that other wheels.
    Maybe the tower's text letters' location is matching and point to certain numbers that are not the same as other towers' positions.
    This also might help.

    If you solve this puzzle for me I will share.

    Cheers
     
  17. TurboGenius

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    That's the fastest and easiest way to do it - looking for some tiny physical defect in the wheel is almost impossible now-a-days. But the reflections from the overhead lights is easy to use and spot.
    Also you can easily find a bias wheels using the newer style reader boards that show hot/cold numbers over cycles.
    Make a note of these and each visit compare the results. If there's a bias wheel you'll have a good idea because you'll see the same number(s) appearing over and over. But then again the bias wheel/unicorn hunters are going to say it's a lot harder than that !!!! It takes years of study to have such ability to see the obvious.

    PS/ playing a hot number method on ANY wheel is much easier and requires no data collection of thousands of spins or sticking your head over the wheel looking for a reflection or defect, but what do I know lol.
    (and if your playing a hot number method on a bias wheel, you'll be playing the same numbers as the bias wheel
    player will be playing on the same wheel. The resident "expert" will say that's not true, it's more complicated than that ! but it isn't. a bias wheel will make some numbers hotter than others due to defect and we'll all be playing the same number(s) - only the method way works on any wheel, even the ones that aren't defective)
     
  18. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

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    Clearly not much. I suspect that you have zero experience with any kind of bias considering you've probably never tracked more than 100 or 200 spins from a wheel in your entire life.



    Not likely. You'll just be amateurishly chasing random numbers.
     
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  19. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    I read a book on it once. I don't need to track past spins in order to win, and don't care about a defective wheel when I can beat any "normal" non-bias wheel. It's so nice.

    Nah, in reality we'll both be playing the hottest numbers, but no need to argue about it is there.. lol
     
  20. Sputnik

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    I could not sleep, thinking of Toby (bias player) who reach 7 STDV using the outcome to outcome concept ...
    Maybe it is worth exploring rather than playing Hot Number Strategy and hope to stumble on a true bias wheel.

    Now I am thinking clockwise and anticlockwise directions where one direction narrows down overall similarities from dealers pushing behavior of rotor and picking up ball hand movements behavior where distances from ball resting pockets to the lifting of ball and snatch it away on the ball track has similarities that can reach 5 STDV in distance movement with that particular behavior where the ball is launch from picking it up and same for the push movement behavior of rotor in one direction.

    I reckon Casinos not having counter measurements or software to spot that kind of bias.

    Cheers
     

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