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Roulette Any professional roulette players here?

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by Mantronix, Jul 21, 2018.

  1. bahadurla350z

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    It's a pity as I really don't understand anything related to Roulette. Well, I am going towards my uncle a week later to learn some bascs. Wish i could learn
     
  2. mansi19896

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    have you shared your system with anyone, or keep it at private?
     
  3. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

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    Yes. My systems are as old as the game.

    1. Predict where the ball will land.
    And/ or
    2. Exploit the biased wheel.
     
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  4. John Blerg

    John Blerg Well-Known Member 👹 Troll 👹

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    You don't tell anyone anything, all you do is a generic overview of what should win you portray yourself being a professional and Wealthy gambler and in my opinion in my opinion only, you're far from it!!!!

    you spend most of the time on the message board raising hell and challenging people!!!! Lol!!!!
     
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  5. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

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    What can I say, I am me. Damn good too. ;)
     

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  6. John Blerg

    John Blerg Well-Known Member 👹 Troll 👹

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    Yeah, like my twin brother selling gay videos in the land of the Ozarks, lol!!!!

    I told him he should do that in nyc or los Angeles
     
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  7. Sharptracker

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    You shouldn't have only paid attention to what deflectors have been hit... I found a wheel with 3 dominant diamonds that had a better behave than a very strong tilted wheel where the diamond was always hit on top which gives an unpredictable issue most of the time...
    Then of course you got to multiply the number of wheels you see, more wheels you see more you got chances to find a correct one.

    Go there John and try to bring a tought related to it

    https://www.gamblingforums.com/threads/vb-play.10033/
     

  8. John Blerg

    John Blerg Well-Known Member 👹 Troll 👹

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    You guys need to get with Fred Sanford and an old wheel and play in the alley. LOL, can't catch my breath!!!!! LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  9. Fivealive

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    Hi ive made my living from roulette for the last 8 years. A combination of online play. And bricks and mortar casinos.

    Its takes a very special mindset to do it. And iron discipline. Which very few possess. Your approach to the game MUST be different aswell. You must think off the layout. I do not seek biased wheels. There is no computers VB nonsense.

    Just a strategy on RED and BLACK that has served me well.
     
  10. Fivealive

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    Money Management is EVERYTHING when it comes to roulette. DISCIPLINE TOO. But how I win is very different to the general mindset in this game. Everyone assumes you must have a way to overcome the negative expectancy of the game.

    Thats always been the reason so many fail. What you must find is a CONSTANT MINUMUM EXPECTANCY. Something that rarely drops below a certain hitrate. No matter where you play.

    And with my strategy FIVE I have that. If someone tells you that you will virtually always win at least 5 games out of every 10 you play. The odds. The house edge now mean nothing.

    You know you are going to win at least five games out of every 10 you play. And you simply money manage yourself to profit. No matter what configuration those 5 wins come.

    Thats how I beat this game. The biggest mistake most people make is trying to play the layout straight using some form of martingale. And thats why over 90% of players lose more than they win.

    As for the flashy players stacking skyscrapers all over the layout. Its not necessary. And most end up losing it all in the end. They will never tell you when they have lost big. Only make a noise when they pull back some of that loss.

    The smart players in a casino you barely notice them. They stay below the radar. Sniping a 100 here and 200 there. Thats me. But over the course of a year. They will make a tidy living.

    They arent playing to be flash and show off. Impress anyone. They are playing to WIN. And it might only take a few spins to hit their target. Ive made my money in as few as two spins and thats it. Im out of there.
     
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  11. SERGIO

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    Hola, me dedico a jugar profesionalmente todos los días y tengo un par de formas de ganar, una de ellas con pruebas de hasta 5 m de bolas.
    Si quieres hablar podemos hablar en sll89 @ outlook.es

    Saludos
     
  12. jbs

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    • Violation of Rule #2: No Disruptive Behavior
    Blah blah blah blah...what a load of crap!
     
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  13. Fivealive

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    Why do you say this? Dont judge what you dont know. Yes I understand that most people think the wheels unbreakable. But it really isnt.

    A negative attitude will not get anyone anywhere. Thats for sure...
     
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  14. mansi19896

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    could you give some help about your strategy please, i have also tried with flat betting only few units to win, but after so many years it has all failed evantually
     

  15. Fivealive

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    Hi Flat betting wont do it. Suicidal Martingales wont do it. What you need is somewhere in the middle. And you need to interrupt random and variances flow.

    Betting black after say 3 reds. And then doubling up after each loss is a disaster waiting to happen. So let me explain what I do to you.

    FIVE

    I use a 2 wide matrix of 4 possible RED AND BLACK patterns as follows.

    RR
    RB
    BB
    BR

    Now I cross off the patterns as they form. Until there is one pattern remaining. So lets say in this instance.

    RR●
    RB●
    BB●
    BR-----Last remaining pattern.

    I wait for the result of the last pattern. I am betting against BLACK and RED. So if the next spin is RED. That game was a winner. If the last spin was BLACK. And the spin after that is BLACK. That game was also a winner. If the last pattern formed. BR then that game was a loser. We are using a two step prog of 1--2 on every played game. A typical 100 game set will give the expected 75/25 win to loss ratio. And once in a while you get extremes like splits of 82/18. 28 units plus. Or 70/30. 20 units negative...

    NOW!!!! Heres the thing. I play sets of 100 games. PERCENTAGES ULTIMATE PLAYGROUND. BUT I only bet on EVERY 5TH GAME. Thats one of the reasons the strategy is called FIVE. So in effect. The 4 games in between each 5th game are dummy games. That are unplayed.

    So I will play every 5th game

    5--10--15 etc.

    Up to a maximum of 20 games per 100 game set. The reason for this is the INCREDIBLE CONSISTENCY of wins to losses within each 50 games or 10 actual bets. In over 8 years and 1000s of games. The split for every 10 games rarely drops below 5/5. And can be as high as 9/1.

    This is what I mean by a CONSTANT MINUMUM EXPECTANCY. Most of the time you will get 5 wins in less than 7 games. And I only increase my stakes after two consecutive losses.

    The confidence after 1000s of games is knowing im close to certain to get AT LEAST 5 wins out of every 10 games played. And this is how you beat this game. You have to WAIT TO WIN. You cannot play the layout straight and win longterm. Without too many edge of the seat moments.

    FIVE is a strategy of incredible CONSISTENCY. The wait to win is well worth it. You must place quality over quantity. Break randoms flow.
     
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  16. mansi19896

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    thank you for the insight, very fascinating method your slowly riding with, It reminded me at beginning johnlegend pattern breaker with abc,which failed, but yours special FIVE seem interesting twist that may help you stay above water. It may take lot of time skipping the dummies, but its necessary. i like that style of yours.

    but how high your willing to go with recovery stakes. how many losses you have seen based on experience with FIVE method.some kind of stoploss sounds sensible as you never know what may happen
     
  17. Fivealive

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    Thanks for the reply. Okay let me give you some stats to let you and others know why I am so confident about FIVE.

    Games played per year. Approx 500 a week or 24,000 per year. 20% of which qualify for FIVE. So about 4,800 games a year of FIVE.

    Now let me give you more details aboout what constitutes a loss. Potential loss etc..

    Over the last 8.5 years from over 20,000 games. I have only suffered 6 lost sessions. That is a set of 10 games where I won less that 5 games out of 10.

    Now I always lock the set as soon as I achieve 5 wins. So those could be 5 straight or the most common confirgurations are below.































    The black dots represent wins the circles losses. Seldom does it take more than 7 games to achieve 5 wins out of a 10 game set. Over 25% of my campaigns will have no losses at all. I have hundreds of results where there are 8 or more wins in a 10 game set.

    Another POWERFUL POINT to note. Ive only ever ONCE had five losses in a row. And thats the longest losing streak in over 20k games.

    So stop loss is rarely required. Unlike the flawed MARTINGALE I do not double up after a lost game.

    I am confident I am going to get my five wins out of 10. So I only increase stakes once im down to my last few games. Here is an example of the WORST breakdown I might encounter.





    ●--






    You see the first 4 wins came quite easily. Then there was a losing streak of three games before the 5th win. That is as bad as it gets for the most part.

    And heres the thing. In over 20k games my worst ever split has been 11/09.

    5 wins in the first set of 10. And 6 wins in the second set of 10. There has never been a full set of 20 games that went below 11/09. Now I dont care what anyone says. That is nothing short of INCREDIBLE.

    And most sets complete with a total split of 14/06 or better. Typically 3 losses per 10 game set. Or 4 loss in one half 2 in another.

    So backward steps and lost progressions are very few with FIVE.
     
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  18. mansi19896

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    hey thats really powerful and important information about the system itself how it performs. That is more then incredible and definately worth testing out. You should be proud of creating that kind of strategy with quite safe money management.
    I remember when i tried johnlegend version even if last pattern hit immediately i still waited til all numbers are finished til i start counting new pattern, how you like to play with it, or does it make even any difference do finish last pattern.
    For example last pattern is RB left and you win with first one with B. Does then you start to count immediately or hit free spin one last time to complete that last.
     
  19. Fivealive

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    Hi,

    The games in a session are ALWAYS connected. So the LAST pattern on the previous game becomes the FIRST PATTERN on the next game.

    So

    (23505)
    RR●1
    RB●3
    BB☆4
    BR●2

    (23506)

    RR
    RB
    BB●1
    BR

    And then you continue tracking spins to complete games to get to your betting game.

    Online you will get about 10 games an hour. In a walk in casino of course its slower. But What I would do in that environment is play off two or three tables staggering the games.

    The AMAZING thing about FIVE is it doesnt matter if you play continuously or jump from table to table. Site to site. The results are very similar. Solid delivery of 5 to 10 wins out of 10 games.
     
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  20. Fivealive

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    Some other interesting stats.

    Ive never had 20 wins out of 20 ever. But ive had

    19/1=12 times
    18/2=114 times
    17/3=203 times

    And on the other end of the spectrum.

    11/9=7 times
    12/8=15 times
    13/7=119 times

    Another interesting stat. Its never taken longer than 18 games to get 10 wins. I a way thats more powerful than getting 5 wins in 10 games.
     
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