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Roulette Any professional roulette players here?

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by Mantronix, Jul 21, 2018.

  1. mansi19896

    mansi19896 Active Member

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    3 million of spins to test system out https://www.vlsroulette.com/index.php?topic=19441.0 im sure there are more files around net.
     
  2. Fivealive

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    You may be right in everything you say. But like I asked you yesterday how long is LONG ENOUGH?

    All I am concerned about is being a winner in my lifetime. I have 8.5 years and counting so far. But the point you and all mathematician minded people continuously fail to understand.

    Is there comes a point IN THE LAW OF REALITY. The only law I respect. When you move so far ahead. You can no longer touch negative numbers ever again.

    And thats where I am right now and will stay for the rest of my days. Because what FIVE represents isnt something that can be ground down by the house edge or a freak streak.

    And thats what makes it different from everyother system i myself ever encountered in my lifetime with this game. Ive seen it all.

    Nothing has ever withstood the house advantage and variance like FIVE. In fact it thrives in spite of them. And thats because I found a constant. The only thing that can beat this game is a constant.

    Something uneffected by house edge, and variance. And FIVE is that constant. It was hiding in plain sight from me for over a year.

    And since I found it ive been a consistent winner. Whether theres 15 losses in the 100 my best ever result. Or 35 losses in the 100 my worst ever result.

    FIVE STANDS. It still delivers. With only 6 lost sub sets in 23k plus games. There is norhing like it. That ive ever seen.

    So to me it may aswell be a holygrail because it will never lose me money for the rest of my life.

    And thats why I brought it forth on this forum. Its out there. But it will not be utilized by many if any. Because too many people have become jaded pessimists.

    They believe anything negative about the prospects if besting this game in the long term. Because 99% of people play the wrong strategies and of course lose alot more than they win.

    So its easy to keep thek thinking nothing can ever beat the game. It means nothing to a player like me who has been winning for so many years. I will continue..
     
  3. Nathan Detroit

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    Nothing new under the sun :



    Beating the bank with flat stakes ( EC) by Victor Bethell 1910 book " Monte Carlo Anecdotes and Systems ,"



    For recreational purposes only. Play at your own risk.




    ND
     
  4. Fivealive

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    There is plenty new under the sun. The problem is the shades you are wearing wont allow you to see it. FIVE is one of the greatest if not the greatest betting strategies of alltime.

    Myself and four people I know make our living just from this one strategy. When you have something this strong and consistent. You have to be careful. Because when you only win overall. You will eventually be shut down by the casinos.

    They will never admit like you that a system can take them apart. But on the down low. They know when someone like me has them beat. Its just a question of staying under the radar for as long as possible...
     
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  5. mansi19896

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    i have heard this yes, but wondering how much and often you should do withdrawal to stay under radar ? some people recommend once per month or so

    PS: so far with 2000 games im plus 30 units and most longest win was 25 in a row, it was virtual seeing though,
     
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  6. Fivealive

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    Mansi

    I dont think you are playing the strategy like I do. Every 20 games should show you 3 to 5 units profit. And you say you have played 2000 for 30?

    Something is not right here. Regarding casinos. What you need are MULTIPLE accounts if online. So you do not take money from the same casino over and over. And sometimes you NEED TO PURPOSELY make any old bet TO LOSE money and let them see you going backwards from time to time.

    One of my friends was banned from William hill after he had won and withdrawn £3,000. They dont like to see people beat them. They would rather see someone win 3 grand by luck. Like say putting 100 on a straight up number.

    Than someone systematically grind three grand out of them. With very little backward movement. They get scared when they come to realize someone can actually beat them like this.

    So infrequent withdrawals if youre online. It would be better to take 30 to 50 from 10 different casinos a week. Than 300 to 500 from one. Do you see what im saying? Alarm bells start going off once you get into several thousand.
     
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  7. mansi19896

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    im not sure people can use so many casinos, maybe only 3-4 max. Depends where you live too- 50 seems too little to profit per week, but i dont really know either as i havent experienced situations with withdrawals. Maybe doing small withdrawals from one account you have per week ?

    i play like this : BR RB RB BR BR BR RB RR and now i start bet against BB and thats round one. lets say result was BB i lost, now second round from 100 games goes like this : BB ( now theres 2 BBBB in a row as i count previous one too ) BR BB BR RB and now against RR to complete second round of 100. result was BB so i won.
     
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  8. Fivealive

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    Where are you in the world? In the Uk We have access to dozens of online casinos. They all have different tolerance levels when it comes to winning and withdrawing winnings.

    Some panic for as little as £500. Some will let you win 50k before they show you the door. The main thing being if they SUSS out that you are systematically taking the game to pieces. Thats their biggest fear.

    You see contrary to very popular belief. The game is alot more vunerable than they ever want you to find out.

    They love the mug punters who have no discipline. But if they bust you as an in the know smart player they will cut you off asap.

    50 is plenty if you have 10 to 15 accounts. You have to stay UNDER the radar. They will bann the player taking over 1 grand a week alot faster than someone taking 30 to 50. Do you understand.

    But you could still be taking upwards of a grand from them every week if you are SMART. Across several sites. And win 10s of thousands before they pull the plug.

    You are playing the strategy differently to how I advise Mansi.

    So I can understand why your results are different.
     
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  9. mansi19896

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    yeah i guess everyone has to experience themselves to find it out..

    i tried personal message you but it is not possible here, do ask how i play wrongly. I have read so many times and i got it right. I dont understand how im doing it wrongly, it is exactly how you explained. Im confused now. Can you give examples like i did with 2 rounds. I know do play every 5 round, i just did examples of 2 rounds in a row.
     
  10. Fivealive

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    Yes Mansi its that 5 game gap that is the very POWER of the strategy. You cannot bypass it and get the same results.

    This is the problem with 99% of people who play this game. They cannot wait to win. So they rush to lose.

    It is the absolute necessity of success. And why 99% of people STILL wrongly think this game cannot be taken apart by a paper system. Its that symmetrical 5 by 5 gap. 20 games from every 100 that holds the power of consistency Mansi.

    And within that 20 game set lies constants that destroy variance and house edge.

    Nobody here would be willing to bet their life that if the dealer spun 18 spins they would DEFINATELY WIN 10 OF THEM RIGHT?

    Well if I had to bet my life on winning 10 out of 18. It would be 10 games of FIVE out of the first 18 in a 20 game set. Its 1000 times safer than betting for 10 reds or blacks whatever out of 18 spins.

    But it asks you TO WAIT. Thats the price of consistent winning with this game. If you cannot wait forget it.
     
  11. Peca92

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    the man's got a point... I absolutely agree with this,patience is the key to winning!
     
  12. Fivealive

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    You better believe it. And its what the vast majority of people LACK. And guess who knows that. THE PEOPLE WHO RUN THE GAMING INDUSTRY. Thats why they are willing to throw bonus money at you.

    1--you will have to play yourself silly before you can withdraw it.

    2--The very volume of play will bring all those nasties to the party. VARIANCE AND HOUSE EDGE.

    And that is precisely why nearly everyone that plays this game loses longterm. Their complete approach is WRONG...
     
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  13. mansi19896

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    but if casino has 10 000 monthly limit of winnings or somekind of that limit, can they still ban you. Some say problem may arise only after 200k.
    i still feel few thousands is too little for them to kick you out, its actually illegal they cannot do this unless your cheating.
     
  14. Fivealive

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    Mansi if you are WINNING CONSISTENTLY in their eyes you are cheating.

    200k you should be so lucky. Please point me in the direction of an online casino who will let me take 200k from them before they show me the door. I will give you 25% of the winnings. Im serious. Ive yet to come across such a site.

    They can bann you without even giving you a reason Mansi. They will basically say in so many words we no longer want your business. What they are really saying is you are too good for them. And they no longer want to finance you.
     
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    i know a casino. unibet with that green layout with red and black colours where wheel is on left side up. Creator of [removed] uses own creating app which keeps winning and unibet is one of hes favourite to use. He has won many years and it seems to be working. I cant afford do purchase hes system but i did used hes free software where i was able to go up 1200 with base unit 0.1 cents
     
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  16. Fivealive

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    Just a minute are you saying this dude has taken a mint 200k off this site and theyve allowed it?

    Also he shouldnt be selling his system if its that good..As you have seen on this forum. Ive landed a virtual HG here. And you cannot even get 5 people to take it seriously.

    They just wont believe it. Thats where we are with jaded pessimism in 2019.
     
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    its okay, if atleast one person life can be changed with your actions, you can call it success.

    i dont know personally has he won so much on that single site, but definately quite a lot. he posts many videos on youtube too to prove hes winnings. I have talked with him and he seems trustworthy. i dont know total of winnings, but he has never had any issues with withdrawals from there. based on videos he withdraws 100 per session or so in a day
     
  18. Fivealive

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    Okay im going to join that site soon. And see how they are.

    Many lives can be changed with what I know. 4 people besides me make most of their money from FIVE.

    If you stick to the plan the rewards will come. The idea is to build a strong betting bank slowly but surely.

    So your win percentage in relation to your fighting funds is small. But still a decent amount. You put greed to one side.

    Everybody thinks because you are gambling you have to win the lottery overnight.

    Thats one of the fatal mindsets. The first thing you do is work towards replacing your living wage.

    Anyone who can even match what they earn in a regular job with roulette. Is doing something very few can do. You build from there. If you do everything right and have patience.

    In 6 months you will reach a level where your TIME belongs to you. And this is your living. Thats where ive been for over 8 years. But its one step at a time.

    There are few feelings better than being your own boss. And anwsering to no one else for your living. From there you work towards your pot of gold. To live a better life.

    But its one step at a time.
     
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    yees these are golden words and something that needs to be followed disciplined. You are great man. very grateful for meeting you here.:)

    but do you have any idea how many units and how often should i loose in casino on purposely so they dont know im enemy in disguise
     
  20. Fivealive

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    Hi Mansi

    Glad i can make a difference.

    What I do is this. For every £100 I make betting with FIVE on only RED AND BLACK. I do £20 worth of silly bets on straight up numbers. Splits and corners etc. Streets.

    So they think I am an erratic gambler too and not machine like only going in mostly one direction.

    Thats the secret..And if I get lucky and win any of these bets. I KEEP PLACING UNTIL I LOSE.

    So basically I sacrifice about 20% of the profit i make. Especially as with five you spend more time tracking and recording spins than you actually do BETTING.

    So to them it actually looks like the foolish bets are MY MAIN DEAL. And the occasional bets on red and black. Are just to try and recover losses. Although they are the main money spinners

    Its works for me well. So thats what I would do.
     
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