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Roulette Any professional roulette players here?

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by Mantronix, Jul 21, 2018.

  1. mansi19896

    mansi19896 Active Member

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    betting for lost is very risky, we all know how many wins comes in a row. even my stats are showing it. I see only value after 2 loss
     
  2. Fivealive

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    Mansi something you arent understanding here. You arent betting for a loss ever. You are either betting for step 1 or against it. Step 1 is the switch. Theres no betting for a loss.
     
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  3. Fivealive

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    I need you to show me you understand what a step one win means. What a step 2 win means and what a loss means.

    Once you understand that we can progress.
     
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  4. mansi19896

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    yes i think you are referring to step 1 and 2 but i was thinking you talk about that another method you mentioned yesterday after 2 wins, which is different money management..

    i described how i understand step1step2 in post 198. i did little typo in the end, where you have to bet r not b. Let me know did i got it right.

    and also can you clear out this 3 wins system. you said you get 2 wins. so you do progression for 1 more win and thats it ?
     
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  5. mansi19896

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    lets say results are rrrbbrbb now step 1 is against last pattern BB, so next FIVE, when i see rrbrb do now i have to bet against B ??
    or i have to complete 3 patterns there rrbrbb and have to bet against BB which was from first FIVE of my example =?
    this is how i see things at the moment
     
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  6. Fivealive

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    RR●
    RB●
    BB●
    BR----Okay lets say you play a game and get left with BR. On the next spin a step 1 win will be if the ball lands on red. Are we clear on that.

    If the ball lands on black we have lost step one. So now on the next spin after that we need black. If we get black thats a step 2 win.

    If it lands on red the game is a loss.

    Now, as I said before we are only concerned about betting for step 1 or against step 1 with the martingale bet.

    Are you with me here???????
     
  7. mansi19896

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    but when to bet. im looking at patterns or it doesnt matter, soon the next FIVE comes your first bet immediately is red? the BR in next five may come immediately so i dont know when do bet.
     

  8. Fivealive

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    No Mansi you have mis-understood. Each game connected to the game before.

    But because we are playing games 5 apart from the previous one. There is no connection between them.

    Example

    GAME 5

    RR●
    RB●
    BB--S1--(RED)
    BR●

    GAME 10

    RR●
    RB●
    BB●
    BR--S1--(RED)


    GAME 15

    RR--WE BET FOR RED to break the run of S 1
    RB●
    BB●
    BR●
     
  9. mansi19896

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    yeah i dont get it when to bet in game 15. if BB your example is pattern to look for to bet R opposite, which resembles step1, the RR or RB in game 15 may not come last. so when do bet
     
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  10. mansi19896

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    simple way to see what happens if we loose, when we bet next time. if you can bring all scenariums in following FIVE results, i think its more simplier
     
  11. Fivealive

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    Mansi you bet for or against whatever result you are left with.

    Theres no connection to the game 5 or 10. Each game is unique to itself. The only thing you are concerned about is ending the run of step 1 wins. No matter which of the 4 patterns youre left with.

    If you are left with

    RR you will bet for Red.

    If you are left with

    RB you will bet for Red.

    If you are left with

    BB you will bet for Black

    If you are left with

    BR you will bet for Black.

    Do you understand now?
     
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  12. mansi19896

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    ah i see now. :D yes now i get it. i was just following that one crazy pattern five after five always, thats why i was skeptical, but this makes more sense indeed
    but what about that another strategy you mentioned - Betting for a win streak of at least 3 is always in play.

    i understood that after 2 wins you described your looking 1 win more with progression for example wwlll you lost, but wwlw WIN.
     
  13. mansi19896

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    ok i got it that too. its also basically same like step 1 and 2 only with 2 in a row..

    but my versions i brought out today also look quite good, i have not seen often these results wwll. it may be beneficial also :O
     
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    Phew at last lol.

    Yes ive just finished a session and was pushed to the last step of my martingale for MARTINGALE VS STEP 1. I had 6 in a row and needed a step 2 or loss on the 7th attempt and got a loss. Thats 413 straight wins now. Its all good Mansi.

    Keep testing then maybe playing a small bank. And start the building.
     
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  15. mansi19896

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    phew indeed, its good you made it, i suffered yesterday 5 loss in a row too, sometimes it goes against you but overall you are right so far it goes stable and im ahead at the moment 70 units or so.
    usually when big progression happens its a sign to end the session...

    though rightnow i read some your messages again and you say if its BR you bet for black but above you wrote: BR----Okay lets say you play a game and get left with BR. On the next spin a step 1 win will be if the ball lands on red

    so at first step 1 you still have to go opposite R, and opposite B on second if it happens to loose
    and if everything goes well you can win after every FIVE
     
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  16. Nathan Detroit

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    I am tuned in since the start of the FIVE thread , EC are also in my tool chest and that goes back to the mid 1980 s .



    Happy Winnings,
     
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  17. mansi19896

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    you have been winning since 80 ? why you havent shared your strategy, but its true - with even odd high low, you can triple your betting possibilities but it may become too long time consuming keeping track all of them. What does your experience says is it worth it
     
  18. Fivealive

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    I dont get this dude. He has been against me since the beginning and now he says happy winnings. Oh well. Maybe it could work on two or three even chances Mansi.

    But I cant vouch for that. Ive only ever played colors. And its worked wonderfully on them. The only time I will ever play Martingale Mansi is on FIVE. You would never see me risk on the layout.

    I was in casino a few years back. And this guy was playing 3 in a bed. He waits for 3 dozens then bets for one of the other two to come. So he covers two dozens. Well that day he took a hammering. He lost nearly 10k. The ball hit the one he was opposing dozen 1 (1--12) 10 times plus 2 zeros. So it stayed off 13--24 and 25--36 for 12 spins.

    He was destroyed. He had previously never been hit by worse than 5 or 6 in a bed. This is whats so dangerous about playing the layout. You do not get this wild range of results with FIVE. The range is shut down to stay and live inside 10.

    Its really remarkable. Its what makes the strategy so good.
     
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