Roulette Ramblings of the Inept for the Misfits

OK, so in in my example above, which colour/colours would you bet?
Perhaps not bet blue, as it hasn't appeared yet?

In the horse race analogy, "the horse on it's last step to win the race"- what is winning, to repeat x number of times?
(I notice you say just 1 horse.)

 

Turbo, I see perfectly what you mean, that a number that showed already 9 times has much better odds to reach the 10th occurence, comparing to another number that never showed.
But you are reinventing the Roulette bets here, the odds are changing in this case because of course a number that repeated 5 times will more likely repeat 6 times before a number that never repeated but may I ask you where have you seen such bet allowed by the Casino?. If it was possible, you would not be paid 35/1!. The payout would be in relation to the odds that you have to get your pattern completed + the house edge. You see a serie of spins on the scoreboard, but those are the results of individual/independant events, and you are paid accordingly.

To make it simple, despite the fact a number that showed 9 times has more chance to hit 10 times before a number that never appeared, those two numbers have the exact same odds 1/37 (excepted biased) to hit on the next spin.
If you disagree, then you are again claiming that a hot number has more chance to hit than a cold number on the next spin. This is not true of course.

 

I totally agree however, let's say the last step is 10 naturally you will bet all 9's dont you agree? Well sometimes all the 9's (together) are way below 37 sometimes they are way above 37 before the first 10 comes. THIS also holds true for all 8's going to 9 and all 7's going to 6 etc etc.

SO again if the odds on average are 1:37 for a step to complete THEN there is NO EDGE... this also holds true for the second 10 and the third 10 etc etc... I have tested this, and you STILL havent repsonded to those findings...

 

Getting too close to the horse manure....

 

It isn't about trying to guess the win on one spin, it's about a pattern being completed
below the expected amount of time it should.
I couldn't pick the winner on a 1 spin sample because it could be any of the colors - of course.
But it does show that 1 (horse) will always win well before it's expected to, etc etc.

Now the point is to extend this to a pattern that contains a lot more than 1 step.
Just like in my example - 1 pattern will complete before expected and 1 will complete as expected
and 1 will complete much later than expected. This is where the key is.

I'll explain below when I type up a post to demonstrate this.

Bago ! You made a really well thought out post, is this a change ?
I can answer you're points too below and look forward to your reply.

 

Hi, to keep it as simple as possible, I am still focusing on the 3 coloured balls analogy.
Are you actually saying that it could be possible to bet on these, for a series of runs, and know you will
always end up + ?
Or should I move on to more complicated patterns?

 

So here I had Random.org select for me 10 sets of random number lists...

• Set 1: 33, 13, 12, 8, 1, 19, 4
• Set 2: 24, 30, 17, 12, 16, 26, 20
• Set 3: 23, 9, 6, 36, 32, 12, 17
• Set 4: 9, 19, 6, 23, 0, 3, 35
• Set 5: 8, 18, 35, 29, 2, 9, 21
• Set 6: 14, 17, 31, 15, 20, 00, 9
• Set 7: 14, 35, 30, 13, 22, 16, 28
• Set 8: 28, 23, 29, 20, 35, 17, 12
• Set 9: 14, 1, 17, 00, 26, 28, 23
• Set 10: 29, 6, 23, 15, 00, 22, 2

Nothing special here, no magic lol.

Now let's run off roulette spins until we have 1 set with only 1 number remaining.
This will be considered the lead horse in this race of 10 horses of course - it's nearest
to the "finish line" and is expected to complete before the math says it should.

10 35 4 10 24 16 25 0 00 15 20 3 13 20 2 29 17 29 1 20 23 26 11 14

• Set 1: 33, 13, 12, 8, 1, 19, 4
• Set 2: 24, 30, 17, 12, 16, 26, 20
• Set 3: 23, 9, 6, 36, 32, 12, 17
• Set 4: 9, 19, 6, 23, 0, 3, 35
• Set 5: 8, 18, 35, 29, 2, 9, 21
• Set 6: 14, 17, 31, 15, 20, 00, 9
• Set 7: 14, 35, 30, 13, 22, 16, 28
• Set 8: 28, 23, 29, 20, 35, 17, 12
• Set 9: 14, 1, 17, 00, 26, 28, 23
• Set 10: 29, 6, 23, 15, 00, 22, 2

Now we can see this horse race analogy clearly ?
Set 9 is the "lead horse" with only #28 left to complete the pattern.
all the way back to (horse) set #3 that has only completed 2 steps of the race.
Others are in-between but charting this over time will show that there is always
this variance because of random. So we now bet on the Set #9 to complete
by betting on #28. (and no, this isn't done ahead of time - I run these examples
as I type.. so if it doesn't work, then it doesn't...but it will.)
Now the bet on spins...

34
21
8
3
31
32
18
00
13
8
26
31
24
15
34
28 Win (We are up 20 units)
======================================

We tracked for 24 spins, played 16 spins (40 spins total)

Did #28 beat the math of the game ? NO !
It took 40 spins to appear - all we did was improve on When to bet on it and why -
for some reason people think the math has to change in order to predict the winning number,
when this isn't the case. #28 appeared worse than most numbers on the table - yet we won
on it because it was part of the set that "won the race". The horse crossed the finish line
much better than expected and we knew to bet on it because it was the first and only horse
to reach the "1 away from winning" location.

This is how my Fri/Sat live play results were played out (although I did not use Random.org
to pick my sets, I have a better way to do that).
For example purposes, this should clear it up very well though.

 

You are on the money I think, or at least getting there.
Yes, the number that appeared 9 times first is more likely to be the first to appear 10 times.
Will it change the math ? No.
The series as a whole WILL complete this 10 appearance well, well ahead of what the math says
we should expect (and better even than the payout ratio the casino pays)
And like you stated - we lose nothing by Not betting on the numbers that never appear/appeared.
I lose nothing by not betting on the horses that haven't even left the start
line yet - and the ones trailing behind the leader are also not worth it.
By betting on the lead horse (the pattern most likely to complete before any of the others), you do
actually make it possible to win.
Random is predictable when you look at a series of outcomes while still keeping the "each spin is
independent from the last" rule in-tact.

 

Turbo, you know Monty Hall problem ? Is one similar problem with buses and their numbers you know it ?

 

Your system looks like the Magic Square 666 by crossing numbers into it as they appear, when you have one number left into a line or column, you bet on it. I believe everybody would be talking about it if it was so magic to predict future outcomes better than 1/37. But it is a good way to not drink too much at the table since you are busy tracking numbers. Thanks.

 

Hey Turbo can you touch on how random works and how a group of numbers leads to predictability more, I like the Geiger counter analogy but it seems hard to apply without knowing what to look for, in regards to your pattern filling I think the problem is the pattern sometimes might be first to fill as your betting on it but it might still become second or third place which I've seen in my own testing

 

Would you mind sharing how you come up with your sets?

 

How is this IMPROVING it? AND I AM QOUTING YOU "all we did was improve on When to bet on it and why"??????? I programmed this in excel and again its the same with the repeaters... (your welcome to the excel file!)

Sometimes you have 1 9 (lead horse) and sometimes you have more than 1 YOU do agree that we have to bet all 9's to get to 10!
Sometimes 1 9 even goes for 150spins before the first 10 happens! Due to random this happens.

Well after the test was finished how many 9's were there in total on average before the 10 came??? Suprise surpise it was 37 on AVERAGE.

Sometimes indeed The horse crossed the finish line much better than expected but other times it will be WORSE tha expected! AND on AVERAGE it will be 1 in 37!!!

AGAIN MORE INEPTNESS!

 

Thank you for doing all this work. I think the magic to enjoying Turbo is that there will always be a secret that he keeps. He looks like he gets off on teasing most people while dragging a few along chasing a carrot on a stick. It's the same thing. He never tells the whole system. He should now, because I have . The clock is ticking on the life of table games in casinos. I'm still looking for people that can't learn my method after really trying. I won't waste anyone's time with hints and dead end trails if they are really sincere about trying. Anyone that speaks up will get honest instructions and help. I'm hoping people will start to talk about how open my instructions have been and how difficult the method is. Wouldn't that be refreshing to do with Turbo's method here? I hope he explains it all so that people can validate it for him.

 

F****ing seriously dude!

"The clock is ticking on the life of table games in casinos." you are f***king shot the fuck off the pedestal with Dat statement!

 

Ah yes, Augustus Owsley Stanley III, the master mind behind pure LSD in the San Francisco Bay Area. That was a rush. Been there, done that. That's the real secret to inner consciousness and inner space for beating Roulette. My favorite was about the time that the Beatles came out in a few theaters with "Yellow Submarine" that the government put out Owsley's pure formula thru the Sandoz Chemical company. It was probably the other way around. Owsley got the Sandoz formula and made it right. That was fun. "Blue meanies!"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_lysergic_acid_diethylamide

 

Oh Baby! "Don't trust anyone over 30."

 

Hurry hurry all the casinos are taking out the table games because mr. Gizmo release the secret formula to wipe them out totally f****** amazing like I said pedestal City!!!!!

 

Yep, I'm right to hate you. Let's go climbing together.

 

Me . J would gave known how to select 4 numbers without out a big ballet . That`s for sure .