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Roulette Ramblings of the Inept for the Misfits

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by TurboGenius, Oct 5, 2019.

  1. Smitridel

    Smitridel Active Member

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    So by the advising tone of your post I assume that you have comprehended it.
    Mind telling us or is it a secret for you too?
     
  2. Jefra

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    Top secret.

    You will "hear" only from Turbo how to play.
     
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  3. daveylibra

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    I am willing to test this but I still don't understand. We only bet on one horse but we can bet 1 to 4 numbers? Sorry I don't comprehend, Turbo do you mind explaining further?
     
  4. Naughty but nice

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    Davy is it when the last number is left of a particular set; that is the number to better. Now you might have 3 others in the other sets sitting with 2 numbers left. If one of these hits, you’ll have 2 numbers to bet. Say 3 spins later another hit you’ll have 3 to bet.

    What if you look at the wheel as the field, 37 horses or pockets?

    So this gets you into sector betting. The zero you’ll have to decide how to play it.

    5 24 16 33 1 20

    14 31 9 22 18 29

    7 28 12 35 3 26

    32 15 19 4 21 2

    25 17 34 6 27 13

    36 11 30 8 23 10

    The race is on. As the 1/37 spins go by; you strike out the numbers till one is left in the group of six numbers and this is your bet.

    As spins go by you could have 3 or 4 of the groups with just 1 selection left
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  5. Smitridel

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    So in your example you are actually selecting last Unhits from custom groups?

    How are these numbers in each group selected? Random choice ?

    Turbo made sets with overlapping numbers though.
     
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  6. Naughty but nice

    Naughty but nice Well-Known Member

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    To answer your question
    Turbo has sets of 7 #'s in his post. Like i said this way is sector betting with zero played how you think you can use it.
    Just go 6 pockets from zero; you'll get 6 groups of 6.
    Break the wheel how you like, just be able to see the groups.
    Learn the groups like Gizmo
     
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  7. Smitridel

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    So in your way you ditch each contender (the last in each sector) bet as soon as it hits or do you keep it spinning to catch repeats as well?

    How many "last's" you can have spining at the same time (provided they remain unhit)?

    I ask that because in my tests there was a time that I had 2 contenders (1 came before and remained unhit and added the second) and they were chipping away my BR until one of them hit.

    The way I see your graph once you hit you wait for the next contender.
    But what happens if you have two at almost the same time?
     

  8. Smitridel

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    Greetings to all.

    Just a heads up if Im going in the right direction with this one.
    I betted on the first number that qualified, kept betting even if another later had qualified, once it won I moved to the next qualified and so on.
    And strangely enough they cameand finished the race with the same order that they appeared(!)

    What I do not get is how to bet 1-4 numbers without them eating away your BR.
     
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  9. Ka2

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    Thats completly besides the point! The POINT is that turbo claims in his examples that it has changed the math and it doesnt!

    I will explain further with the example he gave:

    Turbo has a "way" to build sets better than random let this be X.

    Then he put this sets in the horse race algorithm let this be Y.

    I allready explained that Y gives no better results than random ( you can test this yourselves)

    So the only conclusion left is that X has to be BETTER than random and if X is allready better than random, then its absolutly unnecessary to feed it to Y. You can allready win with X alone!!!
     
  10. Turkish

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    I don’t think turbo claimed to have changed the math. I think everyone would agree that the math can’t be changed

    He’s just found a way for him that gives him a timing to bet on a certain number/numbers

    In order to make money, it’s always the timing that matters. When you go Long or short a stock/index/currency etc

    They’re been many topics on repeaters too. We all know repeats happen, it’s just a matter of timing when you decide to try to buy for repeats.
     
  11. daveylibra

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    I think I've got it. When we have one number to bet on, run a new batch of sets and mark them off at the same time. We eventually get another qualifier. Carry on this way, but don't bet more than 4 numbers. Not sure when we should stop if we are running behind.
    But instead of guessing, better if Turbo could explain.
     
  12. Smitridel

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    Yes indeed some clarification from Turbo would be much appreciated.
    Having envisioned the sets as racers so I just keep them after the top racer has appeared them and "hopefully" by the time one hits the other(s) will hit too - but I think that is wrong.
    However if you're adding more qualifiers (up to four) and your top runner number is running late isnt this an expensive progression?

    My point is (and I've encountered that scenario in one cycle out of 5 I tested total 800 spins): What happens if your first qualifier-runner has already 37 spins and is running late?
    Do you go Martingale on it?
     
  13. MillyMole

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    What is this bull in here,no wonder this turbo guy got laughed at by most forum members in all the countless forums he posted in over the years

    Just pick 4 different numbers every spin of the wheel makes no difference to your chance of winning ,
     
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  14. MillyMole

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    And here is a progression to go with it betting 4 numbers

    Bet 1 unit for 8 spins

    bet 2 units for 4 spins

    Bet 3 units for 3 spins

    bet 4 units for 2 spins

    bet 5 units for 2 spins
     

  15. Ka2

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    First good one, you are testing more than a few spins, you are already ahead than 90% of the people here!

    Second What happens if your first qualifier-runner has already 37 spins and is running late? Bingo this is what happens with RANDOM in my tests I have seen leaders going for 90 spins running late...

    but according to turbo it should happen within 37 spins well according to his math that is...
     
  16. Smitridel

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    Well to be honest and quote you yes it should - the key word here is "should".

    And it really did quite a few times.


    But The most serious problem that I have encountered is the bankroll required if we have delayed leader(s) and in most importantly how long can you last in the race until one or two of them hit?
    What should be the bankroll required for worst case scenario? 100 units?
     
  17. Fossell

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    Not sure everyone should be taking 'examples' so literally
     
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  18. Smitridel

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    Do you mean the "set's grouping example" or the race analogy?
     
  19. Ka2

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    If someone continuously is showing examples or phenomenons claiming that they are peculiar or special in some sort of way. And we show that they are not special and you get the SAME results when picking random numbers, then whats the point?

    It's the same like saying if
    ve got a bag with 2 apples inside and 4 bananas and 6 strawberries. The chance of getting 1 apple out the bag is 1:6 I'll take 2 bananas and 4 strawberries out of the bag and replace them with 3 oranges and 2 pineapples and 1 walnut. Now my chances have increased...
     
  20. Fossell

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    Oh god here we go, Im gonna get drawn into this… TG's examples are very good analogies of how random doesn't produce flat results.
    To coin a phrase, 'random is lumpy'. With this in mind there will always be numbers or groups of numbers that perform better than the others, where the others won't catch up within a given time frame.

    Don't get me wrong. I know the basics. I don't have a solution for you. But with the basics you can produce a profit often. Where most including myself can't help but fall down is knowing when to stop and take the profit and start-over.
     

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