Roulette Ramblings of the Inept for the Misfits

When you're making a set are you entering what just spun for example spins are 11-14-0-36-0 are those numbers being entered in your set or are you just making them up from your head then when there's a qualifier you just play that # I'm confused on this

 

Quick question Turbo:Have you tried this to RNG or physical wheel only?

Im clueless about the RNG way of randomness.
And in physical wheel, well you have to wait.. A lot.

 

First I dont make them up in my head I use something I see called the wheel.
And no I dont use random org Turbo probably gave that as a mark of reference.

Secondly when making new sets I just copy the same I used but without them being marked as hit. Just like I would if I just sat down on the casino and a new cycle begins at that time.

If you copy the last you would get sets with overlapping numbers most of them being repeaters with no coherent connection to each other. But its worth testing that idea as well since I've seen many repeaters goin in circles.

You get different numbers in both cases (Same Sets and Fresh Sets) due to variance and repeaters but Turbo said New sets though.

Dont get me wrong Im still experimenting on this.
I dont know which way is.. Faster.

Yet.

 

Do you think there's a difference between rng and real spins results

 

Just want to say this is my first post... And turbogenius is and has been on to something for a very...very long time.

With that said I hope to contribute to this thread.

 

Turbo is a genius simply a f****** genius

 

I dont know and that is the same thing I asked a few posts above.

Instead of asking me who already asked why dont you go test that aspect and post the results?

 

I can only use random.org for now while testing, since it's not psuedo random as they say hopefully it'll reflect real spins

 

there is no difference, NO DIFFERENCE!

 

Ok first real bump today.
And it happened on real live wheel online.

After a set was qualified I picked the number and then went on with the procedure.
However I carried the number for about 40 spins without it ever hitting.

So the question is: when is it ok to just abandon the number?
-A full 37 cycle to limit loss?
-Never?
-Untill you hit profit with others?

I know it will come eventually but still how much of a bankroll would I need to be ready for "coldness"?

 

not the first one - the second and third with the third being the best of course

And there's no difference between rng or real wheel spins (unless you manage to find a unicorn
bias wheel)
Random is random - even though the so called experts will say they can tell the difference between
rng and real spins, they can't. Unless you have a malfunctioning wheel - the results will be the same.

 

If for you not difference then please demonstrate wining on a sequence which i will give for you from my casino! Who wants to challenge?

 

Yeah post up 60 spins or even 3 cycles

 

I've been following this thread since it started a few weeks ago. Over the last couple of days I have re-read it several times. There's plenty of interesting material here and so I have decided to begin a series of tests.

Where to start? I will begin by following the example provided by Turbo on page two of this thread.

Turbo's original sets:

• Set 1: 33, 13, 12, 8, 1, 19, 4
• Set 2: 24, 30, 17, 12, 16, 26, 20
• Set 3: 23, 9, 6, 36, 32, 12, 17
• Set 4: 9, 19, 6, 23, 0, 3, 35
• Set 5: 8, 18, 35, 29, 2, 9, 21
• Set 6: 14, 17, 31, 15, 20, 00, 9
• Set 7: 14, 35, 30, 13, 22, 16, 28
• Set 8: 28, 23, 29, 20, 35, 17, 12
• Set 9: 14, 1, 17, 00, 26, 28, 23
• Set 10: 29, 6, 23, 15, 00, 22, 2

Turbo has provided 70 numbers. 10 sets of seven numbers. I have gone through the numbers in detail. There appears to be no discernible order in which the numbers are grouped. There are 31 numbers which have repeated and 6 numbers which have not hit at all. There are two numbers which have hit 5 times each and 3 numbers which have hit 4 times each. Although repeats occur, they do not appear in the same set. Apart from that, Turbo says they're random. They appear to be random to me.

I believe the best way to collect the sets, is to spin the wheel 70 times and place the numbers into each set as they appear, in order. What could be more random than that? Let the wheel decide the sets.

Rules
These are the rules which I have been able to establish from reading the thread.

When there is one set with one number remaining (the lead horse in the race) I will begin betting that number. I will bet that number a maximum of 35 times. If it doesn't hit I will drop the number for -35 loss. Hopefully this will be negated by other numbers coming in ahead of expectation.

As other sets qualify (one number remaining) I will begin betting them too. I will play no more than four numbers at a time.

I haven't quite worked this one out, but as soon as I get the first qualifier, I will begin compiling new sets. I need to work this one out as I go....

I will post results as they become available.

 

Interesting idea.. I’m guessing that if a repeat came within that set you don’t list it down in that same set. And as the wheel churns our more numbers you just continue listing down.

Unless of course it’s really random then just using those sets turbo gave is enough.

 

Benas,
What I mean by 'there is no difference' is that whatever impossible sequence your casino dished out, it is equally possible for an rng to dish out.
They are both random number generators and in a fair game will behave equally random.

So if we are talking about roulette strategies, and not AP, then there really is no difference.

But sure, I'll play along with your casino actuals, how would you like to proceed?

 

Turkish, I'm not sure what to do if the repeat appears in the set. Will I ignore it or will I push it into the next set? I still need to refine some of the details. I'll only have an idea when I start playing....

I'll post some results / refinements in a couple of days.

 

I dont play it this way, as I use predefined sets but still Im confused.

Ok lets say you chart 70 spins (although Turbo said it is safe to ignore the 00/0).
Also Turbo said it would be best NOT to have the same number(s) in many sets but for the sake of argument lets say you compile them as they come so unfortunately you would have a lot of repeaters inside.

The real question is: When you have a new qualifier, start betting and you need to move on to new sets, where do you derive 70 new numbers from?
The old spins?
The one's that got excluded as you waiting for the qualifier?

Not trying to stirr it up here but I like yhat you have a more constructed mindset and I dont understand your process.

 

New test using real spins Hohensyburg Spins 20191001_0225 (duration 83 spins):




Now here was a case where the first qualifier of all the sets played was dragged through for 44 spins until if finally hit (others have hit before though).

 

Smitridel, nice results, Good work.

In answer to your earlier post, I came up with this method of selecting sets after analysing Turbo’s sample sets. Don’t worry, I don’t think you’re trying to stir anything up.

After analysing Turbo’s sets, I noticed they conformed roughly with LOTT. This confirmed to me that they were completely random (as he said they were).

Turbo’s numbers

• 31 hit numbers
• 7 unhit numbers
• 21 repeats

I have just put through 70 spins of my own and I have come up with the expected proportions of hit, unhit and repeats. Similar to Turbo.

My numbers (70 spins).

• 32 hit numbers
• 5 unhit numbers
• 21 repeats

I have put these numbers into 10 groups of 7 numbers (sequentially).

Next step is to continue until there is one horse left in the race (as per Turbo’s rules).

I don’t know if I’m doing this correctly because Turbo hasn’t given the exact rules. This is just my interpretation of what I have read on the thread.

By the way, I had 4 numbers repeat in the same set. I decided to disregard these numbers.

I’ll share the results tomorrow.