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Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by RouletteGhost, Aug 31, 2019.

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  1. RouletteGhost

    RouletteGhost Well-Known Member

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    *play at your own risk the house will likely win

    I make no claims as to winning this is simply to kill time and see if this is a way id play in the casino

    forgive me, I have been in a testing mood

    I decided to test washoo2 except this time on columns

    it seems less volatile to me on columns than it does on dozens...maybe it has to do with the American wheel layout. Using a progression/money management and it may win you some money in the short term

    this is tested only on American wheels

    I'm sure with this W/L some math guys can think of something

    This comment will get the math guys going: I'd wait for a virtual loss first
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    System

    Section A
    1, 2, 3, 4, 13, 14, 15, 16, 23, 24, 35, 36

    now bet columns 1 and 2

    Section B
    5, 6, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 31, 32, 33, 34

    now bet columns 2 and 3

    Section C
    0, 00, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30

    now bet columns 1 and 3
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    Test 1- 100 spins
    LIAR - 4

    Test 2- 75 spins
    LIAR- 4
    _____________________________________________________________________
    1. 19
    2. 4 1 L
    3. 4 1 W
    4. 18 3 L
    5. 15 3 W
    6. 0 L
    7. 7 1 W
    8. 15 3 W
    9. 10 1 W
    10. 4 1 W
    11. 36 3 L
    12. 5 2 W
    13. 3 3 W
    14. 35 2 W
    15. 7 1 W
    16. 7 1 W
    17. 27 3 W
    18. 24 3 W
    19. 30 3 L
    20. 23 2 L
    21. 12 3 L
    22. 23 2 L
    23. 28 1 W
    24. 18 3 W
    25. 2 2 W
    26. 00 L
    27. 15 3 W
    28. 17 2 W
    29. 32 2 W
    30. 8 2 W
    31. 6 3 W
    32. 21 3 W
    33. 30 3 W
    34. 15 3 W
    35. 12 3 L
    36. 29 2 L
    37. 27 3 W
    38. 7 1 W
    39. 30 3 W
    40. 1 1 W
    41. 27 3 L
    42. 0 L
    43. 0 L
    44. 32 2 L
    45. 29 2 W
    46. 27 3 W
    47. 23 2 L
    48. 23 2 W
    49. 00 L
    50. 2 2 L
    51. 21 3 L
    52. 8 2 W
    53. 1 1 W
    54. 30 3 L
    55. 18 3 W
    56. 17 2 W
    57. 1 1 L
    58. 3 3 L
    59. 25 1 W
    60. 21 3 W
    61. 18 3 W
    62. 24 3 W
    63. 20 2 W
    64. 10 1 L
    65. 18 3 W
    66. 6 3 W
    67. 22 1 L
    68. 15 3 W
    69. 0 L
    70. 10 1 W
    71. 17 2 L
    72. 20 2 W
    73. 12 3 W
    74. 14 2 L
    75. 32 2 W
    76. 27 3 W
    77. 9 3 W
    78. 8 2 L
    79. 3 3 W
    80. 27 3 L
    81. 14 2 L
    82. 3 3 L
    83. 00 L
    84. 9 3 W
    85. 6 3 W
    86. 14 2 W
    87. 18 3 L
    88. 22 1 L
    89. 24 3 W
    90. 6 3 L
    91. 23 2 W
    92. 35 2 W
    93. 5 2 W
    94. 6 3 W
    95. 12 3 W
    96. 5 2 L
    97. 8 2 W
    98. 4 1 W
    99. 24 3 L
    100. 30 3 L

    ______________________________________________________________________
    1. 36
    2. 28 W
    3. 34 W
    4. 14 W
    5. 34 W
    6. 0 L
    7. 14 L
    8. 1 W
    9. 32 W
    10. 31 L
    11. 27 W
    12. 25 W
    13. 24 W
    14. 27 L
    15. 11 L
    16. 33 W
    17. 3 W
    18. 25 W
    19. 5 L
    20. 30 W
    21. 3 W
    22. 15 L
    23. 27 L
    24. 15 W
    25. 27 L
    26. 31 W
    27. 19 L
    28. 3 W
    29. 27 L
    30. 35 L
    31. 20 W
    32. 6 W
    33. 7 L
    34. 4 W
    35. 16 W
    36. 33 L
    37. 16 L
    38. 3 L
    39. 30 L
    40. 31 W
    41. 7 L
    42. 12 W
    43. 23 L
    44. 7 W
    45. 2 L
    46. 29 W
    47. 15 W
    48. 23 W
    49. 9 L
    50. 32 L
    51. 21 W
    52. 27 W
    53. 2 L
    54. 33 L
    55. 12 W
    56. 9 W
    57. 19 W
    58. 31 L
    59. 15 W
    60. 13 W
    61. 12 L
    62. 11 L
    63. 12 W
    64. 19 W
    65. 29 L
    66. 34 W
    67. 30 W
    68. 19 W
    69. 25 L
    70. 27 W
    71. 18 W
    72. 1 L
    73. 30 L
    74. 30 W
    75. 22 W
     
    RouletteGhost, Aug 31, 2019
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  2. RouletteGhost

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    What a great session this was

    washoo on columns is something I am starting to like

    _____________________________________________________

    LIAR - 4

    _____________________________________________________

    1. 00
    2. 33 W
    3. 11 W
    4. 31 W
    5. 12 W
    6. 14 L
    7. 10 W
    8. 5 L
    9. 15 W
    10. 36 L
    11. 34 W
    12. 0 L
    13. 30 W
    14. 22 W
    15. 33 W
    16. 18 W
    17. 33 W
    18. 9 W
    19. 10 W
    20. 17 L
    21. 24 W
    22. 2 W
    23. 14 W
    24. 30 L
    25. 27 W
    26. 2 L
    27. 18 L
    28. 18 W
    29. 21 W
    30. 26 W
    31. 13 W
    32. 11 W
    33. 22 W
    34. 24 W
    35. 14 W
    36. 00 L
    37. 18 W
    38. 25 L
    39. 6 W
    40. 0 L
    41. 5 L
    42. 0 L
    43. 26 L
    44. 21 W
    45. 25 L
    46. 15 W
    47. 10 W
    48. 4 W
    49. 24 L
    50. 24 L
    51. 2 W
    52. 4 W
    53. 00 L
    54. 25 W
    55. 24 W
    56. 14 W
    57. 1 W
    58. 12 L
    59. 12 W
    60. 24 W
    61. 23 W
    62. 29 W
    63. 20 L
    64. 35 W
    65. 1 W
    66. 36 L
    67. 5 W
    68. 13 L
    69. 22 W
    70. 00 L
    71. 9 W
    72. 20 L
    73. 1 L
    74. 28 W
    75. 14 L
     
    RouletteGhost, Sep 2, 2019
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  3. RouletteGhost

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    Continuing on, real spin test #4
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    LIAR - 4

    (DONE BY SPIN 12 BY THE WAY, LIMIT EXPOSURE)
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    1. 24
    2. 31 W
    3. 32 W
    4. 21 W
    5. 1 L
    6. 12 L
    7. 16 W
    8. 00 L
    9. 32 L
    10. 13 L
    11. 3 L
    12. 29 W
    13. 23 L
    14. 0 L
    15. 29 L
    16. 36 W
    17. 1 W
    18. 31 W
    19. 22 L
    20. 19 L
    21. 24 W
    22. 0 L
    23. 9 W
    24. 12 W
    25. 32 L
    26. 10 L
    27. 36 W
    28. 9 L
    29. 17 L
    30. 27 W
    31. 2 L
    32. 1 W
    33. 34 W
    34. 22 L
    35. 0 L
    36. 14 L
    37. 13 W
    38. 21 L
    39. 7 L
    40. 33 W
    41. 11 W
    42. 22 W
    43. 0 L
    44. 14 L
    45. 5 W
    46. 36 W
    47. 8 W
    48. 29 L
    49. 23 L
    50. 5 W
     
    RouletteGhost, Sep 4, 2019
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  4. RouletteGhost

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    Test # 5
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    LIAR - 3

    very good session, done by spin 8
    limiting exposure
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    1. 22
    2. 5 W
    3. 21 W
    4. 34 L
    5. 21 W
    6. 19 L
    7. 33 W
    8. 35 W
    9. 25 W
    10. 27 W
    11. 19 W
    12. 18 W
    13. 19 L
    14. 32 W
    15. 14 W
    16. 5 W
    17. 6 W
    18. 17 W
    19. 13 L
    20. 17 W
    21. 23 W
    22. 6 L
    23. 21 W
    24. 30 W
    25. 24 W
    26. 8 W
    27. 35 L
    28. 2 W
    29. 31 W
    30. 30 W
    31. 27 W
    32. 15 W
    33. 7 W
    34. 25 W
    35. 27 W
    36. 27 W
    37. 3 W
    38. 33 L
    39. 1 L
    40. 27 L
    41. 36 W
    42. 3 L
    43. 15 L
    44. 36 L
    45. 10 W
    46. 16 W
    47. 25 W
    48. 15 W
    49. 13 W
    50. 6 L
     
    RouletteGhost, Sep 4, 2019
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  5. Nathan Detroit

    Nathan Detroit Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    I am very well pleased to see the WASHOO2 woks also with the columns of the 0/00 wheel .




    RG You did a great job .


    ND
     
    Nathan Detroit, Sep 29, 2019
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  6. daveylibra

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    Hi RouletteGhost, may I ask questions?

    What are the 2nd numbers in the 1st test, the 1, 2 and 3s?
    What does LIAR stand for?
    And, as I like to only play single 0 roulette, what logic does this follow? it seems that the sections A,B,C create
    sections opposite each other on the wheel, this could be done for single 0. But how do they relate to the columns?
    Cheers and good luck.
     
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  7. Nathan Detroit

    Nathan Detroit Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Please be advised WWASHOO2 is not compatible with the single 0 wheel .



    ND
     
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    Hi ND. I understand you advise playing voisins on single 0, but how do you do this, ie what numbers would trigger a bet?
    Cheers.
     
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  9. Nathan Detroit

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    You might find more information at the thread " My Way or the Highway " by Daniel.





    ND
     
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  10. RouletteGhost

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    I prefer columns over dozens. On the American wheel. They are clustered

    I’m not going to say that systems change the odds, they don’t

    however for whatever reason this works for me

    I wait for one virtual loss. Then I play with a 1 3 9 27 double dozen progression

    haven’t busted yet. 4 losses in a row is max I’ve seen. So I wait for one virtual kiss then begin

    Fallacy? Sure. Working so far though

    also, limit exposure. Small win goal.
     
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    Why limit exposure if ya got a winning style, hey hey?
     
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  12. Nathan Detroit

    Nathan Detroit Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    RG,


    With the WASHOO2 bet selection there are never any sleeping dozens or columns .


    Glad you worked it out for the columns .



    Ready to go without further testing .



    ND
     
    Nathan Detroit, Oct 3, 2019
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  13. Nathan Detroit

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    With this rolling bet selection NO progression is is required ., After 3 losses in a row take a break because the session is over .
     
    Nathan Detroit, Oct 24, 2019
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  14. RouletteGhost

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    Yea I see what you are saying

    I’ve been testing it still, just haven’t posted about it

    what I personally do is wait for one virtual loss then do a 1 3 9 27

    not ideal but my tests have no more than 4 losses in a row

    just the way I play it. I expect it to bust eventually. But I really like this.
     
    RouletteGhost, Oct 24, 2019
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  15. gizmotron

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    Actually not a bad idea. You are hoping that 5 losses in a row are not going to happen. And you don't stay on the loser to correct also. Here is 100 spins with three different groups of dozens charted. Ignore the "P" section. I would add that if your bet hits 3 losses that you go to virtual bets until it changes. That will get you two more in a row to recover. I am counting that first lost virtual bet.

    You can see in this chart that 5 in a row happens. It takes 80 wins to pay for a single lost sequence.

    Code:
    | 1  2  3 | A  B  C | 0  3  6 | P | 
|    X    |    X    |       X |   | -- 20
|       X |    X    | X       |   | -- 35
|       X | X       | X       |   | -- 25
|    X    | X       | X       |   | -- 13
| X       |       X |    X    | P | -- 3
| X       |       X |    X    | P | -- 3
|    X    | X       | X       |   | -- 13
|    X    |       X |       X |   | -- 21
|    X    |       X |       X | P | -- 18
|       X | X       | X       | P | -- 28
|    X    |    X    |       X |   | -- 20
|       X |    X    |       X | P | -- 32
| X       |       X | X       |   | -- 9
|    X    |    X    |       X |   | -- 20
|       X |    X    |       X | P | -- 32
| X       | X       | X       |   | -- 10
|    X    |       X |       X |   | -- 21
|    X    | X       | X       |   | -- 13
|    X    |    X    |    X    |   | -- 23
|    X    |       X |       X | P | -- 18
|-------------------| X       | P | -- 38
|    X    |       X |    X    |   | -- 15
| X       | X       |    X    | P | -- 4
| X       | X       |    X    | P | -- 4
| X       |    X    |    X    |   | -- 8
|       X | X       |       X | P | -- 31
|    X    | X       |       X |   | -- 19
| X       |    X    |    X    |   | -- 8
| X       |    X    | X       | P | -- 2
|    X    |       X |    X    |   | -- 15
|       X |       X |    X    |   | -- 30
| X       |    X    | X       | P | -- 2
|       X |    X    | X       |   | -- 26
|    X    | X       |    X    |   | -- 16
| X       |       X | X       |   | -- 9
|       X |       X | X       | P | -- 27
|       X |    X    |    X    |   | -- 29
| X       | X       |    X    | P | -- 4
| X       | X       |    X    |   | -- 7
|       X |    X    | X       |   | -- 35
|    X    |       X |       X | P | -- 18
| X       | X       |    X    |   | -- 7
|-------------------| X       | P | -- 37
| X       |    X    |    X    | P | -- 11
|       X |       X |    X    |   | -- 30
|    X    |    X    |       X | P | -- 17
|       X | X       |       X |   | -- 34
|       X |    X    | X       |   | -- 26
|       X |       X |    X    |   | -- 30
|-------------------| X       | P | -- 37
|-------------------| X       | P | -- 37
|       X |       X |       X |   | -- 33
|    X    | X       |       X |   | -- 19
|       X |       X |       X |   | -- 33
| X       |       X |       X | P | -- 6
|       X |       X |       X |   | -- 33
| X       |    X    |       X | P | -- 5
| X       |    X    |    X    |   | -- 8
|    X    | X       |    X    |   | -- 16
|    X    |    X    |       X | P | -- 17
|       X |       X |       X |   | -- 33
|    X    |    X    |       X | P | -- 17
| X       |    X    |       X | P | -- 5
|    X    | X       | X       |   | -- 13
|    X    | X       |       X |   | -- 22
|    X    | X       | X       |   | -- 13
|    X    | X       | X       |   | -- 13
| X       |       X | X       |   | -- 9
|       X | X       |       X |   | -- 34
|       X |    X    |    X    |   | -- 29
|       X |    X    | X       |   | -- 26
|       X | X       |       X | P | -- 31
|    X    |       X |    X    |   | -- 24
| X       |    X    |       X | P | -- 5
|       X |       X | X       |   | -- 36
|       X | X       | X       | P | -- 28
|    X    |       X |       X |   | -- 21
|       X |       X |       X |   | -- 33
|       X |    X    | X       |   | -- 26
|       X | X       | X       |   | -- 25
|    X    | X       |       X |   | -- 22
| X       |    X    |    X    |   | -- 8
|    X    | X       |    X    |   | -- 16
|    X    |       X |    X    |   | -- 15
| X       |       X |       X | P | -- 6
| X       |       X | X       |   | -- 9
|    X    |       X |       X |   | -- 21
|    X    | X       |    X    |   | -- 16
|       X |       X |       X |   | -- 33
|    X    |       X |       X | P | -- 18
| X       | X       | X       | P | -- 1
|    X    |       X |       X | P | -- 18
|    X    |       X |    X    |   | -- 15
|-------------------| X       | P | -- 37
|    X    | X       |       X |   | -- 19
|    X    |       X |       X |   | -- 21
| X       |       X |       X | P | -- 6
|    X    | X       |       X |   | -- 22
| X       |       X |    X    | P | -- 12
|       X |    X    | X       |   | -- 3
     
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  16. RouletteGhost

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    What did you test in this chart?
     
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  17. gizmotron

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    Nothing. I just spun out 100 spins that charted the result. There was no bets placed.
     
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  18. Nathan Detroit

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    RG


    For the WASHOO2 player the Gizmo chart is of no value as it is felt lay out based .
     
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  19. RouletteGhost

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    yea I strictly test real American wheel spins no more than about 50 at a time to simulate a real visit

    into several days on same wheel can’t complain working well for me
     
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    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    I've got an idea for "law of third" and the four losses in a row in Ghost's progression. I wonder how often the coldest 14 numbers hit four times in a row? It would need to be more than 80 to prove worth it. Hottest and coldest numbers change 2 at a time for each 38 spins. But that interval of 4 spins in a row is sort of interesting when applied to the weakest numbers.
     
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