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Roulette The horse race analogy and set completion

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by TurboGenius, Oct 18, 2019.

  1. Jack 1985

    Jack 1985 New Member

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    "Betting a long term cold number, or "the last of anything" is terrible and I'd never suggest doing that." I read this at the time and I thought it contradicted what he had previously said. Of course I was doing exactly what he said not to do.... but I couldn't see an alternative.

    "Track all the doubles". I see where you're coming from here.... When you have one more double left to complete a set, you bet that.

    Let me test this too. Thanks RickK
     
  2. RickK

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    Be a long wait for that first bet..
     
  3. Jack 1985

    Jack 1985 New Member

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    And Turbo stated clearly on the first page of this thread that the average number of spins before the completion of a set was 38.1.

    There seem to be contradictions in all of Tubo's posts. Based on my interpretation, it is a short-term winner only.... I must be missing something obvious.
     
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  4. RickK

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    Jack....with 18 out of 20 winning sessions, you must have been doing something right. (actually a lot right)...putting a stop loss on your betting would have left you in + territory...can't win 100% of your sessions, (I don't think)...that's one reason I was asking about getting off one of the horses if it doesn't cross the finish line in 6-10 (or maybe more) spins....TG commented .."can we bet more than one horse?..yes"....and we can also get off a horse..just a question of when...were those results testing or playing live ?..it does make a difference in your decision making..
     
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  5. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

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    Quoting Turbo is like quoting Homer Simpson. When it comes to roulette, math, logic, and common sense are missing.

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    "In order for a number to hit twice, it first has to hit once." -Deep, deep stuff! LOL!
     
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  6. Naughty but nice

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    Orange= hot.

    Blue= cold.

    Purple= the unit on the win. Used prog of; 1-3-9-27-81.

    Now used 6 numbers with a mild prog?

    Spin1, #22; when the #12 hit spin 6; you can see 3 spins later, spin 9, it’s a win. You can see the spin 9; it would have been orange; and eventually goes cold, not one of the hot 6 numbers.

    The line through the 1x’s, means that they are cold; same for the R1’s. You can see the #19 is plain, never to be bet as they are cold. The same is happening with the R1’s. You can see #19 became hot again on spin 25; because on spin 35, the #19 wins, indicated by purple, with 3 units. We can see the #19 eventually goes cold. Look to #33, spin 40 is purple as spin 42; it hit, with 9 units.

    This is Dr Sir quote "In order for a number to hit twice, it first has to hit once." -Deep, deep stuff! LOL!

    Well it’s known that in x spins a number could have hit once and then goes on to repeat 5 times?

    So you have to follow the hot ones out on your chart! With the 1/37 spin chant and 1 pocket to0 many; how do you follow and make decision when to drop?

    Was the above a good way, with a 3000 bank roll? Genius has said somewhere take 3000 to win 3000.

    I stopped with +989 unit win. With the win on spin 82; shown orange and the purple showing on 68; that the winning unit is 81. If I didn’t increase and no hit in 6 spins; betting the 6 hottest at different values the 989 would be gone. Would the #23 hit within say 13 spins? Or are the R1’s going to step out?
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  7. Naughty but nice

    Naughty but nice Well-Known Member

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    Thats R-sim for ya!
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    Yeah thought i'd just see what next number was; and yes it gave 10, would have won Turb's 3000.
    Anyway going ok here. Just follow the hot as they march out.
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    Or from riddles; do you know another way? Perhaps unicorns like Dr S
     
  9. Jack 1985

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    The BR quickly becomes an issue when your betting more than one horse.... The longer it takes for one set to complete, the other sets all end up qualifying. The BR suddenly spirals out of control.

    You're right, a stop-loss is worth considering. 18 wins out of 20 isn't bad and you should be able to capitalize on it.

    Thanks RickK
     
  10. RickK

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    Were you
    Jack...assuming your sessions were "test" sessions...and you stayed (based on #10 & 20) with all qualified horses (1 or more) until they won...if a 2nd or 3rd horse qualified, did any of them end up beating the 1st qualified ? if so, did the winner (2nd or 3rd qualifier) win in 6 - 10 spins...and how cold was the 1st qualifier when it was beat ?...just trying to get a feel for when or if to drop the first qualifier from the race...in live play, I've had a second qualifier win in 3 or 4 spins after the first had gone 10 -12+...
     
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    Also had one hit on the next spin after dropping it after 15..guess that's why they call it gambling..
     
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  12. RickK

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    We have been focusing on that last number in the first place horse..and it has been mentioned several times that when that presents itself, a new game is started...its also been mentioned more than once that last number has turned up cold...maybe the new game horses
     
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    **should/could be shuffled to reflect what showed / didn't show in the first race...more to it than that, but just curious about any thoughts along those lines...and always, apologize if this has been suggested previously...
     
  14. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

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    Nope, still a dumb idea. At each spin of the wheel the odds don't change based on what's hit in the past.
     
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  15. Jack 1985

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    Good work RickK. Put a limit on how long you back a horse for. If the first qualifier hasn't hit in X spins, drop it.
     
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    This just happened to me. What are we missing...? It would be great to get some more clues from Turbo....
     
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    Do you remember the minimum interval? They had thought that this is like cold hunting that they repeat in the long term? ... think how could you take the Repeats that they will repeat?
     
  18. RickK

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    Yes...went to the link and read his discussion but couldn't find an explanation or method to calculate it...searched the vls website, tried to figure it out on my own and also googled it, all with no luck....any help would be appreciated..thanks..
     
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    Looks like RX calculates it, but would be necessary to calculate it manually (if not to difficult) to use it live in a casino...also..what is it actually showing or indicating ?
     
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    That his method doesn't work because there are one or two toooo many pockets on the wheel.
     

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