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Roulette Single Number betting strategy by TG

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by Rona, Apr 10, 2019.

  1. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

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    No you can't. You're just gambling, which means sometimes you'll get lucky and win, but most of the time you'll lose more than you win. Consequently, in the long run, you'll always be a net loser.



    Nope. You're making a common mistake that many naive roulette players make. Contrary to popular believe bias numbers aren't always hot or even showing profit in the little short term small samples that you're toying around with.
     
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  2. Sputnik

    Sputnik Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    I get similar results as TG and think you might add some physics to this to increase the likelihood to stumble on a real bias.

    Flat Betting:

    Profit +235 Units
    Loss -120 Units

    Total Profit +115 Units

    395 Spins 11 Hits 16 Sessions
     
  3. jekhb1976

    jekhb1976 Well-Known Member

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    Can't we just keep it simple as possible?

    Cycle 1: 0-37
    Bet all numbers that become a 2hit.
    Cycle 2: 38-74 New spincount.
    Bet all numbers that become a 2hit.
    At spin 74, look wich of your numbers didn't hit again during this cycle (they will be removed, because they aren't performing as a hot number anymore)
    Cycle 3: 75-111 New spincount.
    Bet all numbers that become a 2hit
    At spin 111, look wich of your numbers fr previous cycle didn't hit again during this cycle (they will be removed, because they aren't performing as a hot number anymore)

    etc etc etc.
    this way we are always betting on the hot numbers and we use a possitive progression on those that keep hitting.
     
  4. Bago

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    If HolyGrail there is, I don't imagine it being simple such as betting the coldest numbers or the hottest numbers that Casinos display them with pleasure on the scoreboard.
     
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    Hey look Bago, i even liked your post, who would have thought that :)

    I know that it wouldn't be that simple, but if you play it this way, you are creating pretty nice clear betting plan.

    The progression, is simple though.
    When we bet on numbers that are appearing for the second time and they hit again, within the same cycle, we bet with a plus 2 progression. 2-4-6-8.... all the numbers that have hit twice have the change to hit again up until spin 74. At this point, spin 74, the 2 hits aren't performing as hot anymore, so there is no use in keep betting on those, so these 2 hits from the first cycle are bein' removed from our betting list.
    Numbers that have hit again or more during their second cycle will be kept, only the progression will be reset to 1 again, this to prevent from betting too many chips if they should fail to show up in the next cycle.

    We play this way with every cycle their own hot numbers and rinse and repeat as above until we are at a new high.

    In a nutshell:
    Bet on 2 hits from cycle 1 up until the end of cycle 2.
    Remove any 2 hits left with no extra hits in the second cycle.
    Numbera we have bet on that have hit 3 times or more will be kept only progression is returning to 1 again. To prevent that the progression is getting out of control.
    When the second cycle starts, we treat it as a new beginning again, away from the numbers we are already betting on from the first cycle.
    so any new 2s will be added to our list and we treat them the same as described above.
    the only difference is that these new 2s have the change to hit again up to spin 111 etc.

    does this work, don't know!
    just a thought i had.
    and because everything i tried before failed, i need to start back to basics with repeats.
     
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  6. Bago

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    thank you Bago for your shoulder to cry on, really needed it :)
     

  8. jekhb1976

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    But seriously,
    If we play it this way, aren't we always on all hot numbers?
     
  9. jekhb1976

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    therefore we are also then always on the numbers that will skyrocket
     
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    And we don't have to reset, we can play this for as long as we want, because we will always be in profit, in theory that is.
     
  11. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

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    Jekhb,

    All your doing is betting on numbers that have hit X number of times above expectation. The problem with what you're doing is that it's not providing you with statistically relevant numbers because your betting horizons are way way to small to produce viable numbers that could be bias. In short, it won't work.
     
  12. Sputnik

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    In the past, you say that the five past numbers (with no repeat) do affect future numbers and slightly reduce the house edge.
    I save the topic from Wizard Of Odds.
    Then you say that the ultimate attack window is three bets on does five past numbers tp catch one repeat.

    Obviously you know methods that can reduce the house edge slightly, then how about a Hot Number Strategy doing the same thing, is it possible to find - temporary bias - where the grey zone between being Hot Numbers or Temporarily Bias Numbers is a slim difference.

    If not then there is no option to get both active and winning small or have a chance to reduce the house edge slightly during several thousands of placed bets - when you can determine if you stumble on a biased wheel or not.
    I got the impression that using the past five numbers with no-repeat would be such a method because it slightly reduces the house edge where you can be lucky and stumble on a true bias wheel.

    Cheers Patrik
     
  13. thereddiamanthe

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    why betting on 2, not 3 etc....

    now, i terms of reseting, betting on second repeat on very cycle, I would sayit appears you are actually reseting [on] every cycle.
    otherwise you would go on with 3s or 4s or 5s ... the top number of repeats .. as the spin count accumulates.
     
  14. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

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    Betting the last five numbers to have hit on a biased wheel DOES slightly reduce the house edge. However, in order to really get a significant edge you need to know what the biased numbers are. Playing like Turbo suggests isn't going to provide the player with an edge, especially since he says the wheel needs to be random or an rng in order for it to work.
     
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    RANDOM for Turbo does not have the same meaning as we think!!!

    Random for him means to be FAIR, and we know that RNG are not fair (at least mostly those in casinos!)

    SO Turbo will never play RNG machines in casinos!!!

    He even does not play airball machines because he thinks they are not fair.
     
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  16. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

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    His sense of reality and winning are different as well.

    Turbo only plays in pretend modes, which as you should know is not the same thing as a real game because the payouts are set differently in order to entice gullible players.
     
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  17. Sputnik

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    TG look at this - your way the reverse way - betting one single number the first layer - betting two numbers at the second layer - betting three numbers the third layer - betting four numbers the fourth layer - and so it continues ...

    Did not use any progression - yet - during the testing phase - but I never pass four layers with 30 sessions ...
    And that with math and probability increasing for each layer to catch a Hot Number ...

    LOL :)

    +28 W
    -21 W
    -17 W
    -44 W
    +5 W
    +32 W
    +32 W
    +4 W
    -15 W
    -73 W
    +18 W
    +13 W
    +30 W
    +3 W
    -13 W
    +8 W
    -41 W
    +34 W
    +14 W
    +16 W
    -18 W
    +15 W
    -10 W
    +17 W
    +17 W
    +4 W
    +5 W
    +9 W
    +22 W
    +9 W
     
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  18. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    How about for the great year of 2020 we pledge to post our profit balance ?

    LOL.
    (note: I said profit - you have to deduct your flights, hotels and meals due to unicorn hunting -
    those things are expenses you have to pay from your winnings or else it's not really a profit)

    And we'll see who's ahead (oh - far ahead) by the end of the year ?
    Game ?
    Nah you're not. Unless you get a call about a mysterious wobbling wheel somewhere in the
    middle of nowhere that is - never know. They are rare to find but I'm sure you have people on it.
    Me ? I just play at any table at any casino. I wonder what the prize could be ?
    Maybe just admitting to the forum that you failed the challenge would be enough.
     
  19. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

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    Turbo,

    I've issued challenges to you before. You've always been too scared.
     
  20. TurboGenius

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    "Good answer ! Good answer !!!!"

    "survey says............"
    th.gif

    So that's a NO.
    Boo, that would have been fun.
     

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