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Roulette The horse race analogy and set completion

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by TurboGenius, Oct 18, 2019.

  1. Bago

    Bago Well-Known Member

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    And little spins sample.
     
  2. Sputnik

    Sputnik Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    True, but I will test with real casino results and see if the results are similar.

    Cheers
     
  3. Smitridel

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    Showing just the results doesnt give much away other than maybe.. Boasting?
    Your win/lose ratio is good but do you bet every repeater?
    Even palaistis repeater system could have the same results lol

    Is every W and L a session with of 37 spins or do you actually bet more than 20 numbers each time (if we take into account your - 28 etc)?
     
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  4. jekhb1976

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    What if we know our data????
    If we take the 6th hit as a finishline and we take 185 spins as our session for the day.....
    You will get around 10-15 6 hits! and with this amount of hits, you will get around 20-25 5 hits! and around 26-29 4 hits!

    Now let's say we start as soon a number got 3 hits, then we start to bet on these..... by the way, just thinking.
    I know we would be betting alot of numbers before we get to spin 185, but we don't have to go that far, isn't it all about winning your session?
    So stop when your goal is reached. (Again, i'm just thinking).....

    If we now use a very agressive progression of 1-5-10, what would our graph look like?
    When a number hits 3 times, we start out betting with one unit on those.
    When a number hits 4 times, we continue our betting with 5 units.
    When a number hits for the 5th time we put a 10 unit ship on it.


    Now, look......
     

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  5. Bago

    Bago Well-Known Member

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    Don't play this with real money, you have 5 Children.
     
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    jekhb1976 Well-Known Member

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    I stopped playing for real a few months ago. Nothing worked, only lost money, and i thought i re invented the wheel :) NOT, how wrong i was.
    I learned the hard way. Now only testing ideas.
     
  7. Smitridel

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    So how many numbers did you bet on at a time?
     
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  8. jekhb1976

    jekhb1976 Well-Known Member

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    Starting from 3 hits increasing stakes when a 3peat becomes a 4peat and a 5peat.
    As soon as one becomes a 6peat, i delete that number from the board and continued with the others.
    But again, it's just an example.

    Run a few hundred sessions of 185 spins in ayk tracker and you will see almost the same data every time.
     
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  9. jekhb1976

    jekhb1976 Well-Known Member

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    But starting from 3 hits is way to early if your goal is a 6peat. way too many numbers i had on board playing like this.
     
  10. jekhb1976

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    Better i think is to start from 4 hits or 5 hit numbers becoming a six and then delete the 6 hits.
     
  11. Bitrock06

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    The only problem that I see is that this still works off of past spins.
    You're not getting the benefit of the 'first' time your number appears this way.
    I would suggest (if you're interested in following through with this) that you pick
    numbers to play when you sit down (not based on what the last spin was) and then
    use a positive progression (extremely limited of course) on any winning number that you
    have being played in future spins. Also you'll have to remove numbers from your list
    of played numbers if they fail to show at least once during a specific amount of time.
    (Ken might like this type of bet selection as it changes due to what's happening 'now' and
    doesn't break my rules on using past spins for reference)
    In the other forum I showed how 13 people out of 38 (American wheel) all flat bet and won
    over 1,000 spins (many more spins are possible of course) by just flat betting.
    How many numbers should you start with to ensure that at least one of your played numbers
    will be one of those 13 that show above standard deviation hence you win ?

    Ok, far too many hints in the post lol.
    Enjoy your tests if you pursue this. -TG


    So how many numbers (set)?
     
  12. SERGIO

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    Mr. Eddy, how is everything going? What happened to the group that secret they did, they discovered nothing? what a pity!
    More than anything, it's a shame, because they let other people in who didn't get anywhere and I, who got the way to win a plane, left me aside! It's a shame ... but it was your decision and now you have to assume it!
    I hope you are lucky and end up finding what you are looking for, but always looking at things in the same way you will not see anything new!
    Cheers
     
  13. Bitrock06

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    Yo Sergio, Eddy didn't "let me in" but you hear me crying about it? How old are you bro? You got something then share it, leave some clues, or get lost.
     
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    Sergio me contactó y tiene lo mismo que el Sr. David B. me envió porque se contactó conmigo y hablamos.
    Él sabe exactamente lo que hace David, no sé cómo, pero lo sabe.
     
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  15. Bitrock06

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    So Astrid, your Sergio?
     
  16. Smitridel

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    MrJ used the marquee to track so 12.
    On 12 numbers you should have 1 to 4 (4 being very rare) repeaters.
     
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    jekhb1976,

    I thought that you were playing every number that repeated. Correct me if I am wrong.
    Please look at this topic from TurboGenius way back in 2008

    VLSROULETTE dot com / index.php?topic=1142.0

    Rather than playing every repeater, play only the "natural repeaters"
    A simple way to bet less numbers

    Let me know if this helps
    Best Regards,
     
  18. jekhb1976

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    Guys, for the record i wasn't the moderator of that group. It wasn't me who decided who to let in etc, just saying.
     
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  19. jekhb1976

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    what do you mean with natural repeaters?
     
  20. jekhb1976

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    yes i was playing like that, but i was playing too many numbers at one point, so playing every repeater isn't the way. Choosing the tight ones is the main problem with this.
     

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