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Roulette Making a simple system based on statistical data

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by TurboGenius, Nov 30, 2019.

  1. jekhb1976

    jekhb1976 Well-Known Member

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    I made the same mistake when i thought this would mean anything also, but, i'm glad i woke up at last after all these years, to realise i was gambling my life away, chasing a fairytale. Finaly i know better now.
    And no, i ain't crying :)
     
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  2. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

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    With bias, there is a physical reason that some numbers hit more than others. The size of the pocket, a loose fret, loose insert, loose lobe of the wheel, etc. The tracking is to measure the fitness of the wheel.

    In the random game, we know that the normal random distribution of numbers isn't hitting some numbers enough to overcome the house edge. In the long run it will always come up short because there are just too many pockets on the wheel in relation to the house payout.

    On a live wheel, one way by which the player could partially overcome this would be to sufficiently track several wheels and only play the wheels that have the highest chi square. I suppose the player could track the "distribution of hits in 37 spins cycles" but that would just be another crude version of a goodness of fit test. This would require tracking far far far more spins than the trivial amount that Turbo is tracking. In the end, the only way to make it work is to track every wheel for bias.

    By the way, what Turbo is naively claiming is that he can exploit the normal distribution in the RANDOM game- which is, of course, absurd.
     
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  3. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    I told Sir No One we'd be on the same numbers - he doesn't agree. It's just a fact.
    My way requires NO defect, no unicorn.
     
  4. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Absurd is it ? Strange because I've managed to do it - and using various ways of doing so.
    I guess I'm absurd now, sounds good to me. Happy Winnings.
     
  5. Jerome

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    Yeah, I know all the arguments and have used them myself. But like I said, it's fun trying to figure out randomness, let's just leave it at that.
     
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  6. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    I'm glad you've moved on from something that was a bad experience.
    No need to bring it up again then - message received - roulette is evil and no one can win
    playing it. Thank you.

    Dear God is it over yet ?
    Ok, I'm done looking at my screen and getting kinks in my neck from shaking it back and forth.
    Happy Winning (if you play, if not Happy Not Losing Anymore)
     
  7. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

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    How much money did you win playing it with real money last year?
     
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  8. jekhb1976

    jekhb1976 Well-Known Member

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    And yet, you still keep avoiding tough questions. like you having kinks in you neck, we raising our eyebrows everytime you post a new piece of the puzzle (your own puzzle that is).
     
  9. daveylibra

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    Jerome, its not about normal distribution, its just about betting on a few streets after 11 spins.

    Turbo, I must ask, I believe you said recently that you play a one number system at casinos lately.
    This surely means that sometimes you have to be at the table for hours and hours...
    Why would you play this way when you already had a 'never lose' system you could rely on?
    I'm genuinely curious to know!
     
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  10. thereddiamanthe

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    My question to you is why & how do you think that all 37\8 numbers outcomes are distributed commensurably at 10101 spins, 23037 spins or 10000 spins.

    Now, if all those events [single spins' outcomes] would be truly independent of each other, why a consistency consistently appears throughout all those number outcomes evenly proportional with the number of events

    i.e.
    @23037 spins the average outcome for each number about +-600 each,
    & not 2 of number 1 plus 15000 of number 6 ..etc
     
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  11. thereddiamanthe

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    My question, in tempory disregard to everything else in the post & thread, to you is...what if this happens in reverse - & the bust happens first, & perhaps multiple times in a row?
     
  12. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

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    From the Administrator...

    The problem is that you continuously disrupt a non-AP section with AP talking points.
    The non-AP sections already have a disclaimer at the top clarifying that the discussions are EV-.

    If the discussions in question were happening in the AP section, you would have every right to dissect and contradict them with your AP talking points.

    However, we have 2 separate sections for a reason, and that's because there are clearly 2 different types of Gamblers -- AP gamblers and non-AP gamblers -- and we have given them each their space so that they don't conflict with each other.

    You keep crossing over to the non-AP section to disrupt repeatedly instead of posting in the AP section where you rightfully belong.

    In the past, because of disruptions such as yours in the non-AP section, several members left our site to go discuss in their own private forum. When members don't feel free to discuss things openly on our site because of such disruptions, it goes against our uncensored nature.

    You have a right to not be censored as well, so if you wish to dissect what is happening in the non-AP forums with AP talking points, then simply create a parallel thread in the AP section discussing why the non-AP discussion is non-AP.

    This way, everyone gets to have their say without crossing-over and disrupting each other.

    Please note that if you continue to disrupt the non-AP section with AP talking points, we may be forced to limit your participation to AP sections only. We trust that won't be necessary.

    Having a cursory glance at your threads and posts, you don't actually seem to contribute much in the AP section. That is unfortunate and we hope that changes if you indeed have AP knowledge.

    The GamblingForums.com Team"

    According to the admin it appears that I'm supposed to make sure some people remain blissfully ignorant. How do you guys feel about open access to more experienced gamblers. Should we just stay away?

    In short, I guess I'm upsetting the online casinos that advertise on this website. They need more suckers to feed them apparently.
     
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  13. thereddiamanthe

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    why did the Sergey Bubka broke his personal record many times over, year after year


    ..when & eventhough he already broke till then all-time world record.




    by far & long surpassing everyione else already




    why did not a bilionaire retire as multi-millionaire already?!
     
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  14. Sputnik

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    I don't need to collect 4000 trails in a clockwise direction to know the top 5 Hot Numbers and catch at least one of them with over 4 STDV hit ratio using TG concept combine with my own stats.

    Wizard of odds - Hot Number Strategy
    https://wizardofodds.com/games/roulette/hot-numbers/

    Frank Scoblet - Hot Number Strategy
    https://www.888casino.com/blog/hot-spot-roulette

    So What is a Hot Number?

    Sputniks Values (Statistical Frequencey)

    1 nr that hit in less than 1 in 25 Excellent
    2 nr that hit in less than 1 in 12 Excellent
    3 nr that hit in less than 1 in 8 Excellent
    4 nr that hit in less than 1 in 6 Excellent
    5 nr that hit in less than 1 in 5 Excellent
    6 nr that hit in less than 1 in 4 Good
    7 nr that hit in less than 1 in 4 Good

    Frank Scoblet

    1 nr that hit in less than 18 Excellent
    1 nr that hit in less than 19 Excellent
    1 nr that hit in less than 20 Excellent
    1 nr that hit in less than 21 Excellent
    1 nr that hit in less than 23 Excellent
    1 nr that hit in less than 24 Good
    1 nr that hit in less than 26 Good
    1 nr that hit in less than 28 Fair
    1 nr that hit in less than 30 Fair
    1 nr that hit in less than 33 Random
    1 nr that hit in less than 35 Random
     

  15. Sharptracker

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    @Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

    They must love turbo for posting useless clue to make it last longer as possible. If the player would see a wheel with no number printed and with no colour, he would realize quickly that there is only two ways to win and couldn't use all this relations between numbers that is a nonsense. But remember those people are only interested about activity, even if it is a useless activity.

    As i said he should be the one to bring proof when he's the one who to make absurd claims... for example pretending you would probably play the same numbers (he let us know that his technics might follow a biased things is just so absurd). He even doesn't realize that the bias is caused by a physic defect while on a fun money random machine you cannot have a physic defect.

    That's why i suggested instead to talk for ages to open an account online with his fanclub to show us day after day how he can kill a wheel... but he gently ignoring the question or talk about "not enough spins"... Jerome could determine also how many spins are needed to claim that he's right. He cannot say also that he doesn't have time because he's playing always for fun money but that fun money mode avoid him to face reality quickly. In few words he knows he would lose as all other people... He knows he only can make other people believe he has something that others don't know and try to make that to last for ages with an infinite number of useless clue.
     
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  16. Ka2

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    So above RULES

    1 spin to go 24 or more bet repeats
    1 spin to go 24 or less bet no shows

    programmed it...

    See the picture below...

    24.jpeg

    1500 cycles further -652 units down the hole...

    total data 23.8 : 13.2

    Turbo I quote you again here "
    So having that info you can surely predict and be right more than enough.
    I would think everyone would agree on this, it's fact."

    No it's not a FACT its FICTION!

    Now again I showed with ACTUAL data, your "facts" dont held up... and dont say see at one time you were 27 units in the plus, you should have stopped playing there. No its a continues stream, if I stopped there and continued the next day, it would have been from point 526!
     
  17. Sharptracker

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    Ka2, Turbo might be searching for people to lose their time programming his new idea of the day and wish to have a quick answer.

    Best thing is to let him losing his time+ all ignorant sheeps that won't try to understand reality and let them play a 50 spins RX session till they decide to put the money and finally feed the cashier.
     
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    I know I already said that myself :) But i dont care, only took me 10 minutes to program, see thats the benefit of knowing how to program in stead of testing for days manually...you would go insane very quickly! Now imagine doing that for 38 years..........pfffffffffff...the horror...
     
  19. Sharptracker

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    If you dig a hole since 38 years, you can't go out from this hole anymore... you couldn't admit that you spent all this time for nothing... You'll prefer to stay coherent with yourself and keep going in the same way. Roulettegod bless all ignorant sheeps that will cross his path to not follow the same way.
     
  20. jekhb1976

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    In all those years i was a turbo believer, he never layed out the math for what he was explaining. Real math, showing how and why something needs to work. Instead the only thing we got were endless new clues and enless approaches how somthing changes it to the players advantage. But everytime something was tested and and it turned out it didn't work, we were all naysayers. But at the sametime avoiding tough question on the forum and through personal email etc.
    Bein' afraid to explain how it does work, no the casino's will close, sure!
     

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