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Roulette Don't be a data puppet. Beware non-live dealer online.

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by Fossell, Dec 11, 2019.

  1. eugene

    eugene Well-Known Member

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    Not to be nasty or anything, but it's quiet possible that the guy I was talking about had a mental illness. That's the shame of where folk can just walk into a shop without any real type of regulation and can just dump all their money into a machine.
    I see a lot of Asian people, both men and women touching the slot machines in the casino when they hit a bonus. No doubt thinking it will bring them luck. If you told them it's already decided what it's going to pay you as soon as you hit the button, they would probably just give you a dirty look!
     
  2. jekhb1976

    jekhb1976 Well-Known Member

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    It doesn't matter wich type of roulette you play, BM or Online live! As long it's fair. But that's the problem, knowing if something is fair or not.
    I've seen many rare outcomes over the yeas of playing, bein' it at a BM table or behind my desk playing Live Online or RNG. The problem is finding proof that someone is messing around with the outcomes.
    I would always prefer BM live play over anything else. But if you are sitting at the wrong table at the wrong time with the wrong dealer, you are also screwed! Years ago i found it very relaxing to be the only one sitting at a table, dealer smiling all the time :) yeah, i knew after a couple of dozen spins, that i couldn't ever win. Dealer was throwing against me all the time. So a tip for the beginner, don't play roulette when you're the only one at the table, only play when there are at least a few people playing there with you. just a tip.
     
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  3. stringbeanpc

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    "So a tip for the beginner, don't play roulette when you're the only one at the table, only play when there are at least a few people playing there with you. just a tip"

    I agree with this
     
  4. Nathan Detroit

    Nathan Detroit Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    jekhb2976,


    How many numbers did you play when the dealer went against you ?
     
  5. Sharptracker

    Sharptracker Well-Known Member

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    This is also a fallacy in my opinion because how could the dealer know what you're betting if you bet after ball is spun...

    IT will just be variance of the day.... If you play with 5 people at the table you could think sometime the dealer is against you as well...
     
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  6. SERGIO

    SERGIO Active Member

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    These are words of the typical beginner who does not know how to lose, blame the croupier or roulette!
     
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  7. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    I have to say - this is absurd.
    On a typical wheel, with a typical ball speed and wheel speed - there it no way in
    hell any (ANY) dealer can "shoot against you". It's impossible.
    Even if they somehow "knew" exactly where to release the ball on the track exactly when
    a specific number was under the ball and send it on it's way with the wheel speed exact -
    all that nonsense, there would still be scatter and you're going to tell me (us) that
    (for example) a dealer can hit a specific number BUT NOT it's neighbor, preventing you
    from winning.
    This is absurd.

    I'd even go wayyyy out on a limb (and be right) that a dealer can't even hit a specific 1/4 of
    the wheel they are "aiming" for. It can happen by chance, not by some talent.

    It's as old as the forums are - the urban legend of that 1 dealer that they bring out
    who can shoot against a player to prevent them from winning. Let's end it lol.

    It's not even possible using a robotic and programmed "arm" to release a ball
    and have it land on a specific number - research it, it can't be done - so
    there's no way Joe Croupier is called to the table from his office to just keep YOU
    from winning your bet, please....
     
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  8. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Hell, take out an entire variable -
    The wheel isn't moving. EASIER now right ???
    The dealer has to do the usual 7,8,9 whatever revolutions they throw the ball at
    and you're going to tell me - "they can hit #0" for example. Nonsense. It's not going to happen, ever
    by a human being.

    Always at the casino there is a player who gives the dealer all of the credit when they win or
    blame them when they lose, hell sometimes the dealers play along because even they know it's
    nonsense. "Hey, hit the #10" and POOF it lands on 10 - you think that happened due to some
    talent or skill ? Damn, that's some rookie stuff there if you're even going to put it out that
    the dealer matters whatsoever in the equation.
    Oh, and always one dealer leaves and the next comes on and people always say "Damn, now
    I'm going to start losing because Becky the dealer left".
    This is BS - then some people start winning with Fred the new dealer and those people
    are like "FRED IS THE MAN !!"

    Please....
     
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  9. Nathan Detroit

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    Turbo Genius ,

    Excellent explanation . That should settle this fallacy of "spin mister dealer " once and for all.



    ND
     
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  10. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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  11. Fossell

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    Sounds interesting! Maybe you could do a translated narrated version for me ;-)
     
  12. Fossell

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    Yes well aware of the old LOT bell curve. Almost 90% of the time between 22-26 number hitting (not 'non-hit'?). But I don't think that statistic is enough to judge unless I documented half a mill spins on the RNG game! Nice idea though.
     
  13. Fossell

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    To further back up the live play vs rng game. When I started playing the repeats several years ago, I tested against both. Keeping track of my balance and profits. With the live table I was ahead all the time. The RNG had its moments but was more of a rollercoaster. And ultimately I ran a loss with it. Interestingly, my live play at the time, I noticed that I was almost always consistently between 10-15% in profit compared to my overall outlay. Probably just due to repeating the same method overtime, but an interesting observation I didn't notice till after the fact!
     
  14. Ka2

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    It's Impossible?
    It's just as absurd claiming you have beaten the math! Lol
     

  15. TurboGenius

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    Yes, it's impossible.

    There exists no croupier that can hit a specific number on demand.
    Anyone who thinks this isn't using enough of their brain cells and should avoid playing
    roulette.
     
  16. Ka2

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    Yes, it's impossible.

    There exists no method that can hit a specific number on demand.
    Anyone who thinks this isn't using enough of their brain cells and should avoid playing
    roulette.

    Agree 100% Finally you have come to your senses.
     
  17. jekhb1976

    jekhb1976 Well-Known Member

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    Yeah well, there's only one roulette king.....
    Turbo is his namo.... :)
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  18. Fossell

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    I won't start a new thread, but I couldn't let this one go! Check out this little beauty from a playtech session.
    I know you see a lot more spins in turbo mode, but this Ive never seen, attached!
    18 came up trumps in the end within several more spins and I won but 10 went ballistic LMAO! Another red flag.

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  19. Naughty but nice

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    • Violation of Rule #1: Be Respectful
    It's what Dr dickhead would be looking for, bias between 18-10 on the wheel. Knobhead that DSAA
     
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