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Roulette Undeniable proof for the "repeaters"

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by TurboGenius, Dec 22, 2019.

  1. Kairomancer

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    www.livescience.com/amp/5364-thick-brained-people-smarter.html

    Despite I failed with RR, Mark has always given honest and detailed answers to every questions for free.
     
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  2. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    There (again) is no system described in this thread by me.
    What I said is that you will not win at 50/50 playing 50% of a location (in this case a dozen).
    I backed that up with data which anyone can replicate.
    To convert that now into a playable system would have to take a few things into consideration.
    There would be the proper progression (of course) - when you are winning at 63% compared to
    losing at 37% on a 50/50 bet - yes you can make a simple progression of course. The math is already
    in favor of the player.
    When the winning streaks are twice as long as the losing ones - yes you can use that to your
    favor easily.
    When the session (all 3 dozens) end at Win Win Win 22 times compared to 2 Loss Loss Loss -
    then yes, again you can make this playable with little to no brain work.

    Since I expect no one to do that, I posted the data and the results as motivation for others.

    I would also NEVER play a single dozen. Anyone who tests this would see the horse race
    analogy right away bright and clear. One dozen section wins before it should, one wins
    on average right where it should - and the last dozen section drags on for multiple spins
    which in turn drags down the balance (easy to avoid this happening isn't it ?).

    Fair enough though, Merry Christmas to all.
     
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    Turbo it's interesting and nice your post,thank you ,and it's now time for home work on this.
     
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    I simply must finish the program, maybe even will do some improvements to the system . Then will say few words...:)
    Few times I created systems which used something from bias side... :)
     
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    Merry Christmas mate.
     
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    You really really suck at math dont you! Each new thread is more pathetic than the last one!

    Even if your data shows 67% more winners it still doesn't change 1 iota! If we got WWW and the L between the wins are 1:13 you still don't win!!!

    Its the same with the data that that ka2 fella showed in the 6 horse race analogy. The first horse came first 50% of the time. Could you win with it? No in the end the data still showed 1:37.

    The only thing you could say that the data must be wrong. I did some test in rx and his data was spot on!

    You will see it wont be any different for the streets, it wont be better than picking random streets! Show us differently!

    Please turbo go back to school and take some math classes, preferably some statistics to! What a clown.
     
  7. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Well I always said I was looking for the person that could not do this. Only I never thought that I would find that person. Of all that tried it and worked hard on it they all produced win to loss ratios that outperformed mathematical expectation. I sure don't want to figure it out on an open forum. I don't want to take on another paying student all that dedicated time of one on one. It just means that I failed to teach. All of my other students never blasted out sessions one after the other. They did a maximum of 2 per day. They never did losing streaks on top of each other. They were taught to get out of difficult sessions with the least damage possible. They all stopped on three net wins. I was using them as guinea pigs as much as I was teaching them. You are one of three known people that really tried with almost no assistance. Sorry, but you were an experiment too. I needed to know if one thread could be enough. I needed to know that if day to day guidance makes a difference or not.

    It's not important anyway. You have something you like better and have gone back to it.

    My method is simple as seen as the biggest picture. You wait and protect your bankroll while in difficult stretches of a session. You walk away if you need to but you protect the bankroll at all costs. You only attack with your bankroll if and only if you are in an slow winning grind or a nice coincidence of a very strong trend or pattern. You use the moving averages in your favor by allowing yourself to see them. You always quit on a few wins, that amount for me being three net wins. The only game you are really playing is self control, primarily against laziness.

    It will be interesting to see if there are others out there that have succeeded or failed, and that really tried to get to the level of this big picture. They are all silent. 70 people have downloaded the practice software and about the same have seen the more important videos. This thing, for all practical purposes is safe in the hands of just a few people. JunketKing was right.
     

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    Yep, like turbo said, that's a WWW
     
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  9. gizmotron

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    That makes Turbo the fastest and best teacher on planet earth. As soon as I saw WWW I knew my whole life was about to get better. He had given out the holy grail.
     
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    Gads! Turbo can speak:

     
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    Just remember, if your test ends with negative results, then Turbo will claim that you didn't use legitimate numbers. And when asked what numbers would be legitimate, he will never specify.

    Much like Steve's "computers", Turbo has made his scam as transparent as possible for anyone willing to read his actual posts.
     
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  13. gizmotron

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    "Turbo has made his scam as transparent as possible for anyone willing to read his actual posts."

    So what is his scam? Does he do private tutoring? Is it only for posterity and keeping the "Genius" name? I can't believe it's to get others to do all his validation. Is he performing a masochistic satirical retribution or service for the gambling community? He serves the roll as Grand Executioner in hopes that people that want to gamble will give up and try something else.
     
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    There is no business like show business .
     
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    I think that Turbo still believes in his methods, but hasn't been able to produce a substantial profit in real world play.

    He's now dealing with a serious sunk/cost issue where he's spent at least a decade working on Roulette with nothing to show for it, which can be psychologically stressful to say the least, so his brain is setting up a defense against logical push-back to his methods on these boards by insuring that his methods can't be tested by others. Never legitimately tested = never fails.

    Over the last year, he has begun to quickly slip into "playing the victim", and will eventually leave the forums all together as the pressure is just too great.

    I don't think he's a troll in the classic sense, like John Legend, but he also hasn't found a way to profit from his position like Steve, so he's desperately trying to find a way out ("wait till I write my great Roulette book").

    Although he appears to love the attention, I don't actually think that is his main motivation for being here. I think that Turbo hasn't presented the details of his method because he doesn't have them, but believes he's close enough to fake it until he solves the problem. Then he can say that he knew it all along.
     
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  16. gizmotron

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    That's really good observation. I've always seen him as a person, actually the most persistent person on gambling forums, to continue to search for mechanical systems. He can't let them go.
     
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    What good is that though when you really think about it. One of the best cricket players to ever play the game was Australian leg-spinner Shane Warne. He put it across that a lot of players were still playing there first game even though it might be their 70th game. The point he was obviously making was that they had not progressed, learned anything new, adopted new approaches. Like Turbo says himself, if you read his posts, they are all based on a common theme. Well he is right about that and unfortunately they are all based on what can't work, never worked and never will work. That's my opinion based on what he has revealed. Now obviously he may be keeping other stuff close to his chest which would transform his ideas into a winning strategy. But what are the chances of that because you would be a pretty insecure individual to possess a winning strategy and still need some kind of approval from folk spouting half truths. Best just to zip it for the most part and take care of business where it matters.
     
  18. TurboGenius

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    LOL

    I can save $150 bucks an hour now - just reading people's comments describing me saves me
    from the eventual costs of a session with a psychiatrist.

    Maybe I'll add my own self-description as well, at least it will be accurate.
    And no worries Law, I'm not leaving.
    If you think some comments from a few trolls will run me off - you're seriously wrong.
    After 35+ years of working on roulette and random, more years than I can remember on forums -
    I've dealt with it all - and from all directions.
    But EVERY email I get saying "Thank you" and PM's asking for help that I do my best to reply to -
    it completely removes every single negative post on a forum from my attention.
    It's that simple. My goal is to help people and I will continue to do that for as long as I
    humanly can - and if it's a thread with my post and then 1,000 negative comments - I'll
    still post and continue to help others.
    I've left forums, sure. But you know what ? When I do the threads are filled with "Turbo" this
    and "Turbo" that. Or.. "I read something Turbo said on another forum".
    So why stop posting here because of negative comments ? The "anti" people are not the
    majority as it appears. Oh imagine 20 people protesting against something outside of a
    politician's office and he caves to them ??? There are millions who aren't there and aren't
    yelling who think exactly the opposite of the protesters... those are the people that make it
    worth posting and always will.

    And look - almost 5 pages of this now ? A simple post I made with statistics and evidence
    suddenly brought out everyone who sits and waits for me to post - just so they can be the
    first to say how wrong I am (when I'm not) and give each other applause. In a way I'm killing
    2 birds with 1 stone. Educating others and keeping the trolls busy, like the 20 protesters
    with their signs outside screaming about their agenda... at least they have a purpose now.
    None of the other millions who aren't protesting care what the screaming is about, nor should
    they.
     
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  19. TurboGenius

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    I still have to save all of those pages and post them somewhere new, I'm glad webarchive is there to
    keep things that are "no more".
     
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    Oh, just wait until the next one ! Don't get too excited thinking this thread is the worst EVER - save
    some energy for the next one, I'm sure it will be even worse.
     

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