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Roulette Undeniable proof for the "repeaters"

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by TurboGenius, Dec 22, 2019.

  1. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

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    Naught,

    It would be much too difficult for you.

    However, like everyone else, I can simply follow various marks/scratches and wood grain patterns on the wheel when in the casino.
     
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  2. Sharptracker

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    I wonder if he thought that you had to ask the pitboss...
     
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    Oh look the mutual admiration society liking each other; bunch of queers.
    Keep at it GIF-KING you might get a bet on if you find a wheel to your bias; don't hold your breath thou. PLANK.
     
  5. albalaha

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    Waiting for virtual losses or wins doesn't help by itself. It could be merely an assistant in your whole methodology to avoid the worst. Since you seem to know only very basic MMs and attack approaches, you might feel there is no way out. Yes, if a number of wins is guaranteed in X spins, I can guarantee a net win but the number of wins has to be a sensible one. RTM(the way I propose to use that) helps us get rid of the worst of worst times.
    Say, a particular number hits after so many losses, do you expect a net win?
    135
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    You might not understand the meaning of worst doing numbers. Have a look here: https://betselection.cc/albalaha's-exclusive/albalaha's-open-challenge-can-anyone-beat-the-worst/
    Even that is beatable.
     
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    wrong! we only do not know when it will strike in a short session. In the long run, it has to go near its mathematical expected value. In a short session, a single number may not hit till 300 or 600 spins but this can not happen repeatedly. Even if it does, for the sake of arguments, RTM can help us determine the better times to initiate a calculated attack. Rest is a wise MM thing. Even playing all over on any bet and winning thereafter is not impossible, even with the worst number but it will take a few thousands spins and chips to win a net profit finally.
     
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    How dumb are you? Do a quick test program it in excel. Within a few hundred spins you will have a number that is 10 hits behind but its mathematical average is 1:37

    You see the average will always go back to 1:37 but the payout is 1:36! So the longer it takes for a number to get back to 1:37 on average you will lose 1 unit every 37 spin cycle.
     

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    But HOW are you 'using' RTM? It happens regardless of how previous spins are distributed. The only way to 'use' it involves gambler's fallacy (waiting for virtual losses because 'the next bunch of spins will have more winners').
     
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    "The only way to 'use' it involves gambler's fallacy (waiting for virtual losses because 'the next bunch of spins will have more winners')."
    The word "will" is fallacious. I would rather define RTM as "it is a gradual step towards mean after an extremely skewed data whether in positive or negative". Villifying RTM than using it cautiously is what people do usually. RTM doesn't say that after a very bad session, another will be great or compensatory, it just says that after an extremely skewed data for a considerable while, further data should not be as extreme but closer to the mean.
    Calling RTM a gamblers' fallacy is like calling a horse a donkey.
     
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    RTM can say what it wants... It's not because an extreme bad session happened than the next one will be close to the mean... It is just because you haven't noticed it yet, but play for real money and long enough, you'll see what it is about...

    And don't forget also to count all time you spent to observe your event and to play to get x unit (let's not even think about the moment you'll have to give it all back)... most of the time it is more lucrative to make hamburgers at Mcdo for same time spent...
     
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    Since you do not have much idea about how it is used, it is tough for you to even compehend. So far as waiting and tracking is concerned prior to betting, it is worth every penny. For an informed player, not losing at the worst times equal winning.
    Check the number 3 challenge to understand what randomness could offer you, in terms of worst. It could happen with any bet howsoever smartly you pick that.
     
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    The only thing that could be discussed is things out of mathematics, for example physics systems, quantic systems, intuition... I don't say it worth to know or not but everything haven't been written about this...

    But with a mathemetic way everything have been written on the subject and fortunetely we don't need to explore all fantaisist systems to declare " this won't work" ... of course what you describe is in the mathematic way, all you can do is to delay the moment you'll have to pay the due. I'd like it to be another final result but it's not the case.
     
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    It seems you have already gave up as "nothing will work" and people have written everything under the sun that you have read as well. Kudos.
     

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    Merely arguing for the sake of an argument won't help you much. I gave you examples of how it is supposed to work and what kind of worst bet you may need to face that is doable with RTM principles. RTM is just a concept and not a complete system and I can understand as to why you can't get much out of it for gaming.
     
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    Why do you want to show that others something does not know when all that is wrote in books about for example mechanical movement? How you do not understand that winning number is nothing other, than the distance from point A till point B? Place a ruler over the numbers and all for you will be clear.
     
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    If for you will be a task to say where will be car after some time when you know its speed and how its change you will use your RTM, or will use some formulas?
     
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    Strange concept because the house edge is so small.
    Maybe if you're looking for a unicorn wheel - but to the average player who wants to win on any
    wheel in any casino... even a number that showed only twice in one cycle is enough to profit.
     
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    The average player is a loser. A number that showed only once is enough to profit, and there really is no need for cycles, IMO.
     
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    Enough is only when know when that will happen... :)
     

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