Roulette Beating Random by Betting Random

The house does not set table limits because they are worried about negative progression betters. They actually love those guys. If they were worried about negative progression betters the table limits would be something like - min bet 25.00 - max. bet 50.00. By setting the table limits higher like 25.00 min. bet - 10,000.00 max. bet is incredibly to their advantage because if you're starting bet is 25.00 and you Martingale up to 10,000.00, the most you win on your final bet is 25.00. if you lose, you lose 20,000.00 and the house wins 20,000.00 all on a 25.00 bet. Yikes! It's a given that people who use negative betting progression will lose somewhere along the line and that more than covers the small wins that are made periodically using such progressions. Yep, high table limits are definitely a great advantage for the house.

 

Not! It's only the table limit if you are using a progression. In that regard I agree with you. But if you aren't using a mindless progression then it happens to be the variance and the size of the player's bankroll vs the casino's nearly limitless bankroll that causes the larger than mathematical losses. Responsible gamblers that don't spend money that they need for other things tend to limit the amount that they will allow themselves to lose. The even classify this bankroll as an entertainment allowance. Variance, in the hands of a weak player, will go right up against their self imposed limits long before the casino reaches their own limits. It would be hard to believe that you are defending the Martingale but you do seem to be defending progressions.

As far as not knowing if you are in a win streak or not I must say that you don't sound like you have any B&M playing experience. Not only does the pit boss know exactly when you are in a win streak but so do people that gather to watch it. You can't help but hear it at almost all Crap tables. It's clear as a bell. Crowds form around win streaks. You do know this don't you?

 

Winner -- OK, if it's proof you need then here it is. This is 200 spins all bet on the 18 Red numbers at $5 per number for a total of $90 per bet, per spin. There is no mind at work guessing when to bet and when not to. Upward movement in the graph is a win streak and downward movement in the graph is a losing streak. This is common enough information to make you a millionaire. Only you have beliefs that prevent you from figuring out just how.



To protect you beliefs you will need to put blinders on so that your illusions won't be destroyed. Anyone here can put up information confirming the existence of win streaks and losing streaks.

 

Hey Giz, the chart shows the rise and fall after the fact which is not available when playing. So, how long do you skip bets when in a downward trend and how long do you skip bets as it's on an upward trend before betting again? The length of streaks are unpredictable because they could go up 2, down 3, up 1, down 4, up 2, down 1 or any variance of that.

 

This question goes all the way to the heart of the matter regarding effectiveness. It's the skill that I teach. It's the experience that I want students to develop. You learn from experience how to read the up and down waves. You learn how to live with fast changes. You should know that in randomness there are no rules for unknown changes that can come up instantly. So you can use this unknown as an excuse not to learn from any experience going further here. Many give up at this point because of the unknown. You can learn or you can reject it. I don't care. But if you decide to learn you must use your brain. If you want to be stuck on prediction then you are not using your brain. You must learn to live with the up and the down waves and to take out the whole thing like a glacier takes out a rocky valley. You win the war by losing a few battles. You must attack when it's time to attack and pull back very fast, even before the actual best end for the attack is there. That's the secret that you are searching for. If you lose 45 bets and win 50 then you are at +5. Now you know why I quit at +3 and try to limit my losses. My big bets are flat bets. I play the entire session as a single event. It does not work to try to win every battle along the way of the session. I have already made it clear that you can be a millionaire with just three net wins per session. Give up, it's much easier.

 

I can attest to that. There is no way to know in advance. You can win with virtual bets and lose with real ones or in reverse. You only know after the fact what has happened in the past and you cannot use the past to accurately predict the future.
At least that is my experience playing over 15k simulations.

 

There it is again. You can't predict the future. I hope that is clear to you all by now. Accept it. You can't and never will be able to predict the future. So stop trying to. Try something else.

 

You claimed it is so simple that you can write a software on that, but humans are better at recognizing patterns, so there is no point in doing that.

Let's assume we already lost our first promising real guess, then after a few virtual bets won we lost again for real, so we are now down -3 units because of the 1-2-2 progression you suggested. This is a very common occurance. Almost happens in every third session on avarage, at least that is what I experienced.
After that we won 3 virtual guesses and identified some interesting and strong patterns at 3 different data streams, how shall we proceed at what point should we try again for real?
How would you program the bot to identify the winning and the losing streaks?
Do you honestly believe that no one tested that before?
That is the heart of the question.
If you can reliably teach that anyone can win with basically any bet selection.

 

Up till now all you guys know is to look at the pattern or trend and to check to see if it lasts for a pattern itself, like patterns of lengths. You look for swarms of duration that are the same. The target to look for in this is anything that continues. So to do that you need lots of different things. But what you should be looking for is swarms of duration that are all consistent. It's like not getting stuck on one trend type. You see different types all at once and consider their duration. That is why people are easier to program than computers. It a kind of way of seeing the bigger picture. You are looking deeper into the trends, like right past them for a bigger picture.

I can't take you to the bigger picture until you are good at seeing the little things first. This is the level I'm on with one on one instructions. I never went there in the Reading Randomness thread. And now that secret is hidden here in this thread. I've opened your eyes to much more if you chose to look for it.

 

From my many years of testing existing strategies and developing my own strategies, I have concluded it is virtually impossible in a random result game to predict coming events based on past events. There is no past in random. Except maybe Blackjack with card counting applied. Craps, Roulette and Baccarat offer no hope in determining where to place your next bet based on past events. No matter what happened in the past your next bet is merely just a guess. However, sometimes we make a few lucky guesses which tends to make us believe we have a winning strategy. We all know the results of that over time. Approximately a year ago, I made the decision to drop all forms of strategies that rely on past events to predict future events. My thinking now became what can I do to get an edge based on what most likely will NOT happen? What can I do to get the best possible odds that exist? First of all, it's a given that EC bets offer the absolute best odds over any other bet selection, Almost 50/50. And Baccarat offers the best EC odds over Craps and Roulette. So a game that offers the best odds is a good start. Secondly, I drew the conclusion that the best way to bet a random result game is to bet it on a truly random basis. Once I started doing this, I started seeing result as never before; light years better than any strategy I have tried in the past. I use the much condemned Martingale progression because it has proven to work to my advantage over flat betting and all other progressions that exist. With this strategy, I do loose to the Martingale progression now and then, however, the number of winning sessions make up for the losing sessions and then some. I am not bucking or cheating the house edge because a losing session is large enough to more than pay the devil his dues, but the winning sessions are consistently frequent enough to stay ahead of the losing sessions. To this day, no one on this forum has presented anything better. I tried those that seemed logical and shined on those that made no sense at all. I have not tried Gizmotron's strategy because it is to involved for me and I am not into earning just a few units per session. However, it could have some validity, I don't know.

 

Your strategy is very basic and easy to test on large samples.
Have you tried longer simulations?

 

It is what it is it is ......................

 

My method is not about prediction. It's about coincidence. It's a coincidence that the trends or the patterns are in sync with a win streaks. When they are they look like they are predicting future events but they are just a coincidence. On the other hand they look just like they don't work at all during losing streaks. It's that simple. So past spins are just a signalling device. I use the signalling device to see when synchronization is working. I'm just hunting win streaks. I showed you win streaks in blind bets on Red. There are patches when those bets on red were in a win streak phase. So if you look for tons of patterns or trends in many groups you have a better chance of finding a coincidence that is working. Math is not working against you. Nothing is working against you. You are just hunting a win streak. It's so simple. If you don't see a win streak then don't bet. If a win streak ends as soon as you start up on it then stop. You can't lose all the win streaks as first bet stops. You are the one that controls what happens. Just learn to wait for the winners and they will come to you. There is no magic skill here. Just remember one primary rule. A lost bet is an indicator that the streak has broken down or ended.

I'm done explaining this. People want to pull it apart, dissect it, and complicate it. So I think I will let them.

 

Next we might be blessed with the " rolling betting horizon " . ROFL.

 

Well, so far I have played a total of 321 sessions with a goal of winning 50 units per session. I have a net win of 87,616 units which includes recouping all previous losses. 321 sessions played on a RNG has just about done me in. How much more testing needs to be done and for what reason? A loss of a complete 7 step Martingale is 128 units. My win of 87,615 units would take 684 losses of 128 units per loss to break even.

 

Or maybe even blessed with betting the horizon is rolling.

 

What strategy is it if you can know?

 

The roulette strategy is posted on my opening statements page 1. The Baccarat strategy is posted on page 2. I accidentally left out a rule for both that wen you hit a win, continue to bet the winning position until a loss then go back to randomly choosing next betting position. I prefer using this strategy on Baccarat rather than Roulette; no zeros.

 

Gizmotron I already have something that continues but thankyou .
3 units is not hard to make what is hard is to spot a golden nugget that grows in a gold bar.and continues thereafter.
Outside even money bets are the only bets in roulette everything else is an illusion trickery to make players think 35 to 1 is a great deal.
All random is is 1 s and 0s if you can spot a golden nugget in that there is no need to come to forums do your own work and rewards will come but try to give some back good karma they say it works.

 

I have seen every bet and tried everything you can think of on roulette but there’s only red/ black look there and you’ll find it to all newbies that is where the nuggets are .