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Roulette Beating Random by Betting Random

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by David Gregory, Jan 21, 2020.

  1. David Gregory

    David Gregory Active Member

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    I checked to be sure that I had the email address correct and I did. I sent it again. If this doesn't work we'll try something else.
     
  2. Nathan Detroit

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    To dream the impossible dream . That`s the way it will always be . In the meantime have fun and not get s side tracked from

    the impossible dream .



    Cheers
     
  3. David Gregory

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    I like the other song better. "I Did it My Way"
     
  4. Winner

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    Not the point
     
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  5. Nathan Detroit

    Nathan Detroit Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    As a Sinatra fan I have no problems with " My Way"



    Nathan Detroit , Guys and Dolls character played by Frank Sinatra .
     
  6. Winner

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    Not the point
     
  7. Nathan Detroit

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    Betting random to beat random translates into betting a disorganized mess to beat a disorganized mess .




    Enjoy !
     

  8. Jerome

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    Ok, got it, thanks. I won't be working on it full-time so it may take me a few days. I'll post here when I'm done.
     
  9. David Gregory

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    Exactly. That's what everybody does one way or the other. Tell me that the inside bets on a Roulette table are not a disorganized mess.
     
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    That's it. It is nowhere in a book of mathematics that you can not win in a game of chance which has a slight negative expectation. It is like saying a 100 Kg boxer has no chance against a boxer of 105 Kg of weight.
    That is little rude way of speaking a truth. Indeed, there is no way of picking pet in a purely random game that could offer us an advantage by itself against the house. There could be better or worse bets in a game like a Basket bet of 0-00-1-2-3 of American Roulette or "Tie" bet of baccarat is plain silly, with compare to other bets but no bet has in built advantage against the house, howsoever smartly you choose that.
     
  11. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

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    Wanna bet?
     
  12. albalaha

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    I bet and beat both.;)
     
  13. Bago

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    Check your elementary math school book if you reached this level which I seriously doubt. I will write it simply: You give me 37 chips I return you back 36. You give me 37 chips I return you back 36. You give me 37 chips I return you back 36. You give me 37 chips I return you back 36. etc Now tell me how could you be the winner.
     
  14. Jerome

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    @ David,

    I want to send you a sample of results so that you can check I've got the rules right, but I didn't make a note of your email address and the email has now been removed. Can you send me over another email? It doesn't have to have any content, I just need your email address. Alternatively you can post it here, but you may prefer not to do that. Thanks.
     

  15. Jerome

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    David,

    I won't be sending you any code because I haven't coded anything yet. The sample I'll be sending is done manually so that you can check the results are what you expect before I start coding. No point in starting to code before checking that I've understood the rules correctly, and your description is a little ambiguous in places.
     
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  16. David Gregory

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    Okay. very good. The descriptions that you consider a little ambiguous, I am pretty sure I know the ones you are referring to. Those are the least important of all.
     
  17. gizmotron

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    I found it using Shazam on my phone:



    I just love this thing. I want to create this stuff with blues and rock fusion.
     
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    When you do bet 36 numbers with 1 chip always, it is a truth but there could be several ways to bypass this or not to follow this, the mathematical assumption of a fixed negative edge that will end with a loss will not hold good.
    For example, take any 200 hands of baccarat that you could set your hands upon. Play it with basic labouchere and you are set to win that for sure. The worst reported so far is 69/200 that too in european roulette with a deadly 0 and more than double the house edge of baccarat.
    This is a simple way to negate that this basic premise of house edge even with the worst recorded variance could be beaten too.
     
  19. jbs

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    Variance will never beat a game.
     
  20. David Gregory

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    All praise, honor and glory be to you, the savior of the despicable gambler. You are the truth and anybody who does not heed your truth will perish in their foolishness. The plethora of positive things you offer will save us from the eternal long-run of hopelessness. You are the great one who has all wisdom, understanding and knowledge above all. most high one. NOT!
     

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