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Roulette Vaddis Holy Grail

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by BETJACK, Mar 31, 2020.

  1. BETJACK

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    TLDR
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    all hints from vaddi:

    Hints/Rules

    1. You need to make inside bets

    2. You MUST bet on a set of numbers that consist of less than 10 numbers. And please figure out that X number for long-term winning. (later he goes down between 9 and 6; I guess its

    3.
    Those numbers that you select must be consistently selected from the top of the marquee; Your number set will change by one number each time a new number lands

    4. How do you make sure that you hit every single number that comes up on the roulette wheel?

    5. Think in terms of hits and what the roulette wheel MUST do: "It MUST hit repeats". But, how do the repeats perform in relation to the singles? For the most part: every 37 spin results in 24 hits = 14 singles + 10 doubles

    6. You don't even need pen and paper. Simply look at the first set of numbers on the marquee. With the GRAIL there is no need to think or analyze

    7. THIS IS ALL FLAT BETTING

    8. It's about how the singles and repeats fall.

    9. Look at the marquee and copy exactly what the wheel does.

    10. Remember, the wheel is recycling it's numbers for perfect balance.

    11. 37-spin cycle

    12. You can start betting on your magic X numbers at ANY TIME. Look at the marquee and wait until there are NO REPEATS in your set of X numbers, then start betting on all those X numbers. Caching!

    13. It's all about balance. And if you read my above posts, that X number is a factor of a bigger number that I've quoted. And, if you were to create the lowest level progression out of X numbers, the last winning number of that progression would bring your bankroll back to break-even.

    14. 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8 = 36 This must be the secret numberYep, I see that little magic number that is smaller than 10. And, just look at how it's perfectly placed in relation to posts about break-even. That position is absolutely perfect in that sequence of numbers. Absolutely perfect. Here's another thought: each 37-spin cycle is never the same, and each 37-spin cycle produces its own dominant numbers. That's why there is no such thing as hot numbers per se. Because all numbers eventually become "hot numbers" in their own respective 37-spin cycle, so as to maintain long-term equilibrium of all the numbers over time.

    15. The number is bigger than 6 and less than 9.

    16. If you are betting on 8 numbers and they are not hit, then you would remove the oldest number in your 8-set and add the number that just landed. So, you are changing your 8-number by one number after each wheel spin.That means that each number of your 8-number set is placed 8 times on the table.There are only two phases:* 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8 (stepped sequence)* 8-blocksFor 8-blocks example: say you miss all 8 of ...279121633629Let's say that the last number landed that missed your 8-set is 20.Then your next 8-bet is ...202791216336If you now get a hit on 12, your next 8-bet is ...122027912163However, in this 8-set, you have the same #12, appearing twice, so you actually bet on ...12, 20, 2, 7, 9, 16, 3 = 7 numbersSo, before you start playing, you look at your bankroll and make a note of the amount.You begin at the beginning: 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8. If you increase your bankroll or break even at this stage, you go back to the 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8 process and place a single bet on the last landed number that made you win or break even.If you lose the 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8 process, you are then at the block stage as described previously:279121633629etc.Also, if you break even or increase your bankroll at the block stage in comparison to what your bankroll was at the 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8 stage, then go back to 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8 where you will begin all over again by placing a single chip on the last landed number.The 37-spin cycle is not of the greatest importance as such, because you can play the system for long period sessions. However, you should make a profit within 185 spins.Also, for your own knowledge and understanding, it's a good idea to see how your bankroll performs every 37 spins (= 37 bets in terms of single and group bets) and up to the range of 185 spins (= 185 bets in terms of single and group bets).Of course, 185 = 37 x (5 cycles)I've played up to 296 spins (8 cycles) and discovered that doing so is a waste of time because better and faster profits are within 24 - 74 spins.I would say keep the spins below 185 = (5 cycles). You don't have to go this far as a regular occurrence.But, as you can appreciate, you need to test these things personally.Hope that helps.

    17. What's the tiny 1 percent missing element?

    18. I've sent a PM to Mr. X ... He knows who he is.He might pose a question in the forum that I posed to him. = When you're playing roulette, what are the 3 basic states que a number can have?1 - Out2 - Not Out3 – Repeat

    19. Roulette numbers have three states:1. No hits (0)2. Single hits (1)3. Doubles + (2)After a 37 spin cycle, this is what you'll typically see:0000000000000011111111111122222222333In this case:11 no-hits12 singles11 doubles +Singles (12) and doubles (11) nearly 50 / 50. (in balance)If doubles aren't dropping, that means singles are dropping.And if singles aren't dropping, that means doubles are dropping.Double-hit ranges:7 numbers: hit range = 1 - 14 (14th spin hits 7th spin)8 numbers: hit range = 1 - 15 (15th spin hits 8th spin)9 numbers: hit range = 1 - 16 (16th spin hits 9th spin)10 numbers: hit range = 1 - 17 (17th spin hits 10th spin)You can't hit all the doubles all the time because -- depending on the magic number you choose -- the distance between say #20 dropping again, might be 25 spins later (outside the hit ranges above), but during that gap of 25 spins, singles are dropping like crazy, so how do you take advantage of the singles as well?I was expecting a few veterans to figure out that the missing part of the puzzle is a way to bet that also capitalizes on balance by also thinking about singles, not just doubles.

    20. Always bear in mind that roulette is about balance.You had one side: the doublesTo create balance, you now have the flip side / other side of the coin: the singlesThe fundamentals of the grail have not changed. The betting method still stands, but there is one betting adjustment that must be made on the table to take advantage of those two sides at the very same time and to take advantage of balance.When the wheel spits out doubles, you're there.When the wheel spits out singles, you're there.

    21. When you solve the final part of the puzzle, you will realize that you have a balanced integrated system that impacts on ...- Non-hits (sleepers) (0)- Singles (1)- Doubles + (Repeaters) (2)And, of course: each round of 37 spins, begins with 37 sleepers.But at the end of those 37 spins: the sleepers, singles, and repeaters are close in number of occurrences (give or take a difference of say... +1, or +2).

    22. If you're a keen observer of the roulette wheel as well as a close observer of the roulette table, you will realize that each number from 0 - 36 has a close-to-perfect pair-partner.What's the perfect partner-pair for number 1? How would you determine it?More head-scratching, eh?Yep, the concept is all a part of the grail. Once again: roulette is all about balance.If you don't think about balance, you're doomed.Just thought that I'd throw that in for those who have already ditched losing projects and beginning to see the light.

    23. If you have been playing roulette for a while and the following are mentioned:- Balance- Wheel- Partner (number)Then surely, you must have an idea as to what I might be suggesting. If not, then I'm really surprised.

    24. Well, the very first set of posts focused heavily on the repeaters aspect, which is the foundation.Then, towards the very end of my posts, I mention the clincher, which in my view required a tiny shift in thinking, in terms of how to also capture singles, not just repeats.And, if you have a basic understanding of roulette, you will come to an inevitable conclusion on what you must do on the table.So, a tiny shift in thinking that leads to a modified betting decision = my 1% BTW: the 1% betting decision is a small one, but its impact is huge.Hope that clarifies my perspective and clears up your apparent confusion.

    25. Throughout this thread I've said that balance is important. That is what roulette is all about really. That's why casinos have sophisticated software to constantly check that their wheels have no physical bias.But, let's forget about bias / balance in general terms as it relates to roulette.Have you figured out the magic number yet? I've given strong clues about what that number is.This magic number is the number that gives power to the whole system.Without this number, you will not have enough power and balance for the system.I won't go into the basic mathematics of this magic number, because it would just confuse some guys even more than they might already be.Suffice it to say that I know why this number is so powerful in roulette. The casino can't escape it and the player can't escape it.And, get this: it's the player's edge.As I've said, I've given strong clues about that number.

    26. Do you know the relationship between singles and doubles / repeats after every 37 spins?

    27. In estimation, when do doubles / repeats start hitting the roulette wheel with regularity?- At the beginning of 37 spins?- Within the middle of 37 spins?- Towards the end of 37 spins?- Or none of the above?

    28. Think of roulette in these terms and no other:24 numbers land12 doubles land2:1 ratio.The factors 4 and 824 / 8 = 312 / 4 = 3That's the basis for the grail.

    29. PS:8 numbers for doubles + singles strategy? or ...only 4 numbers for doubles-only strategy?

    30. here are always 12 - 14 repeaters. The repeaters are spread through random ranges.The narrowest random repeater range is where, for example, the number 1 comes up two times in a row.The widest repeater random range is where, for example, the first spin lands the number 1, but only repeats that number on spin 37.As indicated above, the ranges contract and expand randomly for every 37-spin cycle; sometimes close together, sometimes far apart; sometimes close to perfect balance.You need to find the ideal number of numbers to bet on that will take advantage of the random expansion and contraction between the repeaters.If you bet on too many numbers, the wide random ranges will clobber you.If you don't bet on enough numbers, you'll miss out on the close random ranges.And the foundational principle is to follow what the wheel does, which is all explained in the thread.

    31. All the numbers in roulette are connected logically and consecutively.Of course, the inventors of the game have made every effort to confuse the player by rearranging the numbers on the roulette wheel, but don't fall for this deception.Here we go:0/11 | 22 | 33 | 44 | 55 | 66 | 77 | 88 | 99 | 1010 | 1111 | 1212 | 1313 | 1414 | 1515 | 1616 | 1717 | 1818 | 1919 | 2020 | 2121 | 2222 | 2323 | 2424 | 2525 | 2626 | 2727 | 2828 | 2929 | 3030 | 3131 | 3232 | 3333 | 3434 | 3535 | 3636/0And for the zero, 0, that tries to mess up any balanced strategy, we have ...0 | 1The above pairings take care of your singles and doubles all at the same time. Do you see the balancing guys?Which means that if #2 lands, then you need to bet on #2 and #3 at the same time. Splits or single chip.As above, always choose your pairings going forward.However, what happens if #3 is already covered? In that case go backwards and cover #1 instead. That's because, as in the table above, #2 is also connected to #1.To those guys who I haven't responded to yet, don't think that I'm ignoring you.I've received quite a number of messages and I'm scratching my head trying to think how to manage the whole situation.So, my apologies to those guys who are still waiting for a reply.BTW, the PM system still isn't working. Maybe admin will get the issue corrected soon?A closing thought:If you are creating any roulette system, you should focus on creating a balanced system.Let the roulette wheel do the randomizing.Your system should not be random, it should be balanced.

    32. Based on what I've said about balance and connected numbers (based on the pairs table) ...How could you use already landed numbers to 'predict' numbers that are likely to land next? Now, that is the kind of mad-scientist question that leads to the grail.No, you can't precisely predict which number will land next, but there's a way to get as close as you possibly can. Please don't try to answer this question. I'm just throwing it out there. But it has do with observing how numbers connect to each other after every 4 spins, based on the pairs table.

    33. I guess the basic idea is somewhat similar, except that I'm using inside numbers.The inside numbers constantly 'try' to balance with each other in a sort of uniform dance. And there are ways to temporarily exploit the imbalances.From time to time, I warn against red / black systems because there's no way of exploiting reliable roulette constants.The constants that I seek to exploit are...- 24 singles every 37 spins- 12 doubles every 37 spins- 13 no-hits every 37 spinsNow, that's a reliable roulette pattern every 37 spins and it's a way of informing you that roulette is not perfectly random.If you are aware of perfectly exploitable and reliable constants in a red / black strategy, then power to you. If not, watch out.

    34. OK ... yes, I now understand what you're saying.For clarification, on my part:- 24 singles must occur at some stage, every 37 spins- 12 numbers occur only once- 12 doubles occur every 37 spins- 13 no-hits every 37 spinsThe above is not too far off from what you have. And the above is mainly from my real wheel experience, give or take + or - 1 or 2Also, when I state 24 'singles', I'm looking at it from the point of view that singles must occur first before doubles can manifest.I know ... putting the grail together based on the many clues I've provided is a killer challenge. Different components that are presented impact on other suggested elements and transforms the final solution into something new.And ONE of the reasons I presented it that way, was to see if my thinking was anything different from the thinking of very experienced roulette players.

    35. Options:1) 2 chips on doubles2) 1 chip on doubles3) Half of a chip on doubles2) and 3) should make you smile. - Vaddi36. what are the adjustments you make to the other 2 important rules ? 1.Splitting2.Pairing

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  2. BETJACK

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    Wish I could openly share Roulette Grail

    - You need to make inside bets

    - You MUST bet on a set of numbers that consist of less than 10 numbers (I won't give the exact number. When you discover this number, it creates perfect balance on each 37-spin rotation)

    - Those numbers that you select must be consistently selected from the top of the marquee

    - Here's the genius killer aspect of the GRAIL to figure out: How do you make sure that you hit every single number that comes up on the roulette wheel?

    - Think in terms of hits and what the roulette wheel MUST do: "It MUST hit repeats". But, how do the repeats perform in relation to the singles?

    Clues:

    For the most part: every 37 spin results in ...

    24 hits = 14 singles + 10 doubles

    let me emphasize: THIS IS ALL FLAT BETTING.

    It's about how the singles and repeats fall.

    Bet on less than 10 numbers?

    If there is no wheel bias or the croupier plays perfectly random, I still have the edge because the GRAIL follows what the wheel does. And, the wheel cannot avoid hitting doubles and triples; and betting on only X numbers creates a perfect profit balance when one of your numbers lands.

    The GRAIL does NOT try and guess what the wheel will do. And, that's part of the magic.
    But, you wouldn't spend hours cycling up and down when you could simply make killer profits before you come to the end of a 37-spin cycle, would you? Usually, you make your profits before 24 spins.
     
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    1) The exact number of numbers to bet on. This is absolutely critical

    2) Follow what the wheel does. Your number set will change by one number each time a new number lands

    3) With the GRAIL there is no need to think or analyze

    4) It's flat betting all the way to the bank, so you don't need a big bank roll

    If you're betting on 10 numbers (not perfect of course) and using $1 units, then a good bankroll would be 10 x $1 x 12 = $120.


    You can start betting on your magic X numbers at ANY TIME.
     
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    Want more power, profits, and accuracy?

    Here's what to do:

    Look at the marquee and wait until there are NO REPEATS in your set of X numbers, then start betting on all those X numbers. Caching! :)

    Remember, you have to determine what that magic X number is.

    BTW, this GRAIL is perfectly suited for brick and mortar casinos.

    It's all about balance.


    And, if you were to create the lowest level progression out of X numbers, the last winning number of that progression would bring your bankroll back to break-even. :)
     
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    Ok ...

    General guidelines and more tips:
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    Let's assume that 10 is the maximum of numbers that you will bet on.

    Stage 1) Begin single sequence to X numbers (where X represents the maximum numbers that you will bet on)

    You enter casino and the number ...

    13 has just dropped. Place your unit chip on it. (1 unit in total)

    30 drops instead. Now place a unit on 13 and 30 (2 units total)

    17 drops instead. Now place a unit on 13, 30, and 17 (3 units total)

    13 drops. You win and make a profit.

    Because you are in profit and because you have not reached your X number limit of 10, you will continue the process all over again, by placing a unit chip on your last dropped number, which is 13. You will continue this process of betting on every number that drops.

    Now, as I've said, "The X number is important" and it's not 10 .

    As another clue, I suggest that you create a stepping sequence (like above) wherein if you hit the last number in that sequence, you will break even.

    If you use 10, you will have 10 numbers on the table if you reach your 10-number limit. And, if the ball lands on that last set of 10, you'll make a small loss and the funny thing is that 10 numbers doesn't improve accuracy over the lower, perfect X number.
     
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    Stage 2)

    If you do not make a hit within the first stage, that means that you have bet X times on X numbers. That is 10 spins, 10 numbers, no hits.

    So, you might have something like this:

    36 (The last number dropped)
    ---
    19 (part of your 10-number X group)
    14 (part of your 10-number X group)
    25 (part of your 10-number X group)
    17 (part of your 10-number X group)
    31 (part of your 10-number X group)
    13 (part of your 10-number X group)
    0 (part of your 10-number X group)
    3 (part of your 10-number X group)
    22 (part of your 10-number X group)
    2 (part of your 10-number X group)

    At this point, your setof 10 didn't come up. And the last number that landed is 36.

    So, the idea is to bet on every number that the wheel spits out, but you want to always place a limit on how much you place on the table. Betting on 10 numbers is a waste, so find that magic X number.

    From this point onward you will bet on 10 numbers (or the X number when you discover it).

    But, this is what you do:

    Knock the #2 off the bottom so that your new 10-set bet selection now becomes ...

    36 (part of your new 10-number X group)
    19 (part of your new 10-number X group)
    14 (part of your new 10-number X group)
    25 (part of your new 10-number X group)
    17 (part of your new 10-number X group)
    31 (part of your new 10-number X group)
    13 (part of your new 10-number X group)
    0 (part of your new 10-number X group)
    3 (part of your new 10-number X group)
    22 (part of your new 10-number X group)

    If the next spin hits one of your X numbers, then great! But, you must check to see if you have increased your bankroll above what you started with at Stage 1.

    If you are in profit above where your bankroll was when you started with at Stage 1, then go back to Stage 1 and place a unit chip on the last number that made you win.

    If you are not in profit at this point in Stage 2, then continue playing your X-number blocks
     
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    (in this example: 10) by knocking off the bottom number and adding the number that landed.

    So, let's say #31 landed (you win) and your bankroll is below the level when you first placed your first single unit at Stage 1. In this case, ...

    ... you'll only bet on 9 numbers. ;) Why? You're following the pattern and spins of the wheel. The wheel is telling you that you're accurate so you need to lay out less on the table:

    You're thinking in terms of number of numbers and number of spins.

    So, we now have ...

    31 (The last number dropped)
    ---
    36 (part of your new 10-number X group)
    19 (part of your new 10-number X group)
    14 (part of your new 10-number X group)
    25 (part of your new 10-number X group)
    17 (part of your new 10-number X group)
    31 (part of your new 10-number X group)
    13 (part of your new 10-number X group)
    0 (part of your new 10-number X group)
    3 (part of your new 10-number X group)
    22 (part of your new 10-number X group)

    Looking at the 10 last spins, you now only need to bet on 9 by knocking off #22 and adding #31. But, of course, #31 is slap bang in the middle of your X number set (it's not at the bottom, where you would knock it off).

    Of course, if you discover the X number, sometimes you end up betting on lower numbers than 9, while making hits.

    Once your bankroll is in profit above what you started with at the first placing of your first-stage single chip, then start the first-stage single chip process all over again.

    Another aspect you can observe and experiment with, is multiple 37-spin cycles, starting from Stage 1 + Stage 2, as described in this post.

    All the best.

    - Vaddi

    P.S.: Should have added the following:

    If you break even when one of your numbers hit, then go back and start Stage 1 all over again.

    Which means, if at any stage ... let's say your bankroll was $1200 and it went down, and then you get a hit that takes you back to $1200, you would re-start Stage 1 and bet on the number that just hit.
     

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    Yep, I see that little magic number that is smaller than 10. And, just look at how it's perfectly placed in relation to posts about break-even. That position is absolutely perfect in that sequence of numbers. Absolutely perfect. :)

    Here's another thought: each 37-spin cycle is never the same, and each 37-spin cycle produces its own dominant numbers. That's why there is no such thing as hot numbers per se. :) Because all numbers eventually become "hot numbers" in their own respective 37-spin cycle, so as to maintain long-term equilibrium of all the numbers over time.
    The number is bigger than 6 and less than 9.

    That should be okay for figuring out by experimenting with actual play, although a little maths; based on break-even number sequences in roulette would provide the answer. :)

    Based on real wheel play, you might want to test consecutive batches of 5 x 37 spins = 185 spins (peak of maximum cycles). You should, at the very least make a profit within that maximum range of 185.

    If you are betting on 8 numbers and they are not hit, then you would remove the oldest number in your 8-set and add the number that just landed. So, you are changing your 8-number by one number after each wheel spin.

    That means that each number of your 8-number set is placed 8 times on the table.
     
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    There are only two phases:

    * 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8 (stepped sequence)

    * 8-blocks
    For 8-blocks example: say you miss all 8 of ...

    2
    7
    9
    12
    16
    3
    36
    29

    Let's say that the last number landed that missed your 8-set is 20.

    Then your next 8-bet is ...

    20
    2
    7
    9
    12
    16
    3
    36

    If you now get a hit on 12, your next 8-bet is ...

    12
    20
    2
    7
    9
    12
    16
    3

    However, in this 8-set, you have the same #12, appearing twice, so you actually bet on ...

    12, 20, 2, 7, 9, 16, 3 = 7 numbers

    So, before you start playing, you look at your bankroll and make a note of the amount.

    You begin at the beginning: 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8. If you increase your bankroll or break even at this stage, you go back to the 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8 process and place a single bet on the last landed number that made you win or break even.

    If you lose the 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8 process, you are then at the block stage as described previously:

    2
    7
    9
    12
    16
    3
    36
    29

    etc.

    Also, if you break even or increase your bankroll at the block stage in comparison to what your bankroll was at the 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8 stage, then go back to 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8 where you will begin all over again by placing a single chip on the last landed number.

    The 37-spin cycle is not of the greatest importance as such, because you can play the system for long period sessions. However, you should make a profit within 185 spins.

    Also, for your own knowledge and understanding, it's a good idea to see how your bankroll performs every 37 spins (= 37 bets in terms of single and group bets) and up to the range of 185 spins (= 185 bets in terms of single and group bets).

    Of course, 185 = 37 x (5 cycles)

    I've played up to 296 spins (8 cycles) and discovered that doing so is a waste of time because better and faster profits are within 24 - 74 spins.

    I would say keep the spins below 185 = (5 cycles). You don't have to go this far as a regular occurrence.
     
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    When you're playing roulette, what are the 3 basic states que a number can have?

    1 - Out
    2 - Not Out
    3 - Repeat

    Roulette numbers have three states:

    1. No hits (0)
    2. Single hits (1)
    3. Doubles + (2)

    After a 37 spin cycle, this is what you'll typically see:

    0
    0
    0
    0
    0
    0
    0
    0
    0
    0
    0
    0
    0
    0
    1
    1
    1
    1
    1
    1
    1
    1
    1
    1
    1
    1
    2
    2
    2
    2
    2
    2
    2
    2
    3
    3
    3

    In this case:

    11 no-hits
    12 singles
    11 doubles +

    Singles (12) and doubles (11) nearly 50 / 50. (in balance)

    If doubles aren't dropping, that means singles are dropping.

    And if singles aren't dropping, that means doubles are dropping.
     
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    Double-hit ranges:

    7 numbers: hit range = 1 - 14 (14th spin hits 7th spin)
    8 numbers: hit range = 1 - 15 (15th spin hits 8th spin)
    9 numbers: hit range = 1 - 16 (16th spin hits 9th spin)
    10 numbers: hit range = 1 - 17 (17th spin hits 10th spin)

    You can't hit all the doubles all the time because -- depending on the magic number you choose -- the distance between say #20 dropping again, might be 25 spins later (outside the hit ranges above), but during that gap of 25 spins, singles are dropping like crazy, so how do you take advantage of the singles as well?

    I was expecting a few veterans to figure out that the missing part of the puzzle is a way to bet that also capitalizes on balance by also thinking about singles, not just doubles.

    Always bear in mind that roulette is about balance.

    You had one side: the doubles

    To create balance, you now have the flip side / other side of the coin: the singles
     
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    The fundamentals of the grail have not changed. The betting method still stands, but there is one betting adjustment that must be made on the table to take advantage of those two sides at the very same time and to take advantage of balance.

    When the wheel spits out doubles, you're there.

    When the wheel spits out singles, you're there.

    Roulette starts with the (0) state:

    0
    0
    0
    0
    0
    0
    0
    0
    0
    0
    0
    0
    0
    0
    0
    0
    0
    0
    0
    0
    0
    0
    0
    0
    0
    0
    0
    0
    0
    0
    0
    0
    0
    0
    0
    0
    0

    37 numbers with no hits.

    But it's a law that it must change to something like this, every 37 spins:

    0
    0
    0
    0
    0
    0
    0
    0
    0
    0
    0
    0
    0
    0
    1
    1
    1
    1
    1
    1
    1
    1
    1
    1
    1
    1
    2
    2
    2
    2
    2
    2
    2
    2
    3
    3
    3
    When you solve the final part of the puzzle, you will realize that you have a balanced integrated system that impacts on ...

    - Non-hits (sleepers) (0)
    - Singles (1)
    - Doubles + (Repeaters) (2)

    And, of course: each round of 37 spins, begins with 37 sleepers.

    But at the end of those 37 spins: the sleepers, singles, and repeaters are close in number of occurrences (give or take a difference of say... +1, or +2).
     
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    Based on your answer, continue to think in terms of balance in relation to your magic X number.

    So, if your magic number is 7, or 8, or 9, or 10, will you have balance or an edge or both?

    Assuming $1 units.

    If we bet on 30 numbers and we get a hit, our profit will be $36 - $30 = $6 profit.

    Betting on more numbers leads to more accuracy, but you'll make a small profit, as above ($6).

    If we bet on 6 numbers and we get a hit, our profit will be $36 - $6 = $30 profit.

    Betting on less numbers leads to less accuracy, but you'll make a big profit, as above ($30).

    So, you want to strike a balance between the two extremes above (between 6 and 30 numbers).
     
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    So, you can see in the above, that roulette is always playing the balancing game of risk, accuracy, and profits:

    More numbers = less risk + more accuracy + small profits
    Less numbers = more risk + less accuracy + more profits

    So, the lesser numbers bet on, the more accurate your bet selection process needs to be so that you stand a chance of making good profits.

    P.S.: More specific profit examples, assuming $1 units:

    7 numbers --> $36 - $7 = $29 Profit
    8 numbers --> $36 - $8 = $28 Profit
    9 numbers --> $36 - $9 = $27 Profit
    10 numbers --> $36 - $10 = $26 Profit

    If you're a keen observer of the roulette wheel as well as a close observer of the roulette table, you will realize that each number from 0 - 36 has a close-to-perfect pair-partner.

    What's the perfect partner-pair for number 1? How would you determine it?

    Yep, the concept is all a part of the grail. ;)

    Once again: roulette is all about balance.

    If you don't think about balance, you're doomed.

    Just thought that I'd throw that in for those who have already ditched losing projects and beginning to see the light. :)

    This must be one of the very rare roulette projects that seeks to dance in rhythm to roulette as opposed to trying to beat it by using brute force systems (e.g., progression methods) that do not use the concept of balance as their foundation.
    Nope. Balance is not a problem in roulette.

    It's an advantage that the wheel gives you, because the wheel will ...

    ... temporarily shift out of balance and then shift back into balance.
     

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    Therefore you need a system that can detect and take advantage of these shifts when they happen.

    You need a system that incorporates an element that follows what the wheel does so that your play is in sync with the wheel.

    If you have been playing roulette for a while and the following are mentioned:

    - Balance
    - Wheel
    - Partner (number)

    Then surely, you must have an idea as to what I might be suggesting. If not, then I'm really surprised. :)
    Well, the very first set of posts focused heavily on the repeaters aspect, which is the foundation.

    Then, towards the very end of my posts, I mention the clincher, which in my view required a tiny shift in thinking, in terms of how to also capture singles, not just repeats.

    And, if you have a basic understanding of roulette, you will come to an inevitable conclusion on what you must do on the table.

    So, a tiny shift in thinking that leads to a modified betting decision = my 1% :)

    BTW: the 1% betting decision is a small one, but its impact is huge.

    Hope that clarifies my perspective and clears up your apparent confusion. :)

    If you figure it out, you'll realize that it's not a very complicated solution at all.

    Those guys who figure it out by racking their brains will likely regard the system -- in a sense -- as their own, which is what I wanted to happen.

    Also, I've got a lot of written notes on paper and computer, while I was developing the system. But, I decided not to neatly package the info because the system is so easy to remember. So, the system is not 'stealable' (Jeez- what a word) LOL

    Fortunately or unfortunately, some will figure it out and some won't. ;D

    Throughout this thread I've said that balance is important. That is what roulette is all about really. That's why casinos have sophisticated software to constantly check that their wheels have no physical bias.

    But, let's forget about bias / balance in general terms as it relates to roulette.
     
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    Have you figured out the magic number yet?

    I've given strong clues about what that number is.

    This magic number is the number that gives power to the whole system.

    Without this number, you will not have enough power and balance for the system.

    I won't go into the basic mathematics of this magic number, because it would just confuse some guys even more than they might already be.

    Suffice it to say that I know why this number is so powerful in roulette. The casino can't escape it and the player can't escape it.

    And, get this: it's the player's edge.

    As I've said, I've given strong clues about that number.
    And, if you read my posts carefully, you will see that I consistently express the view that you ...
     
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    ... cannot predict exactly what will happen next on the roulette wheel. You would need to be psychic. It's impossible.

    However, you can achieve positive outcomes, if for instance, you understand the relationship between singles and doubles / repeats.

    Let me pose another question to ya, so that you might begin understanding the level at which I'm thinking.

    In estimation, when do doubles / repeats start hitting the roulette wheel with regularity?

    - At the beginning of 37 spins?
    - Within the middle of 37 spins?
    - Towards the end of 37 spins?
    - Or none of the above?

    What I'm presenting here is unique. So, I'm not surprised that even some veterans are struggling with this.

    And, you still need to answer my first question.

    Let's see who's messing about. :)

    And, let's see who knows unchangeable roulette facts that not even the casinos can mess with.

    Think of roulette in these terms and no other:

    24 numbers land
    12 doubles land

    2:1 ratio.

    The factors 4 and 8

    24 / 8 = 3
    12 / 4 = 3

    That's the basis for the grail.
     
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    Progressions will never work.

    Flat-betting does.


    Stop thinking about outside bets and red / black.

    Inside numbers dance together in a uniform consistent dance.

    What I've presented requires quite a bit of thinking which is likely to fully test anyone's patience and tenacity. :)

    But, it's doable.
    PS:

    8 numbers for doubles + singles strategy?

    or ...

    only 4 numbers for doubles-only strategy?


    How many times have I agreed with this point? Of course you can't predict the next number.


    I'm simply sharing. :)
     
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    Those who are likely to be up at night are those who have a feeling that I'm presenting something that's quite different from what they've seen before. And that perspective might help them to fashion a better solution than anything else that has been presented to them so far.

    With your experience and your software, I was expecting your approach to be one wherein you would break down block by block what I've presented, then arrive at the solution.

    However, at one stage, you presented your software and progression system as representing what I had presented. Funny that.

    As I've expressed many times: I've posed a puzzle because the simplicity of the final solution is just too easy to copy and there is a big risk that casinos will eventually catch on to this flat-betting system and ban it. What happens then?

    What if I share it openly and a few people, for example, get too excited and share it with other forums, friends, family, acquaintances and other people? It would spread like wild-fire through the internet. Then what?

    How many of those people would start 'abusing' the system by going all-out and raiding the casinos to the point where casino software begins detecting that something very strange and out-of-the-norm is happening? How soon would they detect the exact method of play and change their rules to say that anyone who uses this method of play will be banned from their casino or they won't be able to withdraw their profits if they use that particular system?

    How soon would all the casinos band together to watch out for the winning system that will make them lose money?

    This system comes with a lot of responsibility attached to it. Go all out with it and you risk killing the goose that lays the golden egg.

    Remember, the casinos can make any rules they want.

    And many of us know that casinos do not like good system players. They would rather have ill-informed players and players who have not studied the game closely.

    As a 'sort-of' case in point, why do casinos ban card counting? They ban it because it provides a strong advantage to the player. In my book, there's nothing wrong with card counting. But, you see, it's the casinos who make the rules and you cannot dispute them. Either you play the game with those rules or you don't play at all.

    Of course, playing cards is not the same as playing roulette, but you can see that casinos will go to any lengths to protect their advantage and maintain their money-making position. They do not want a level playing field. That's obvious.

    What's the point of working on and discovering a powerful system and risk bringing it to the attention of the casinos by dangerously exposing it?

    Risking all that hard mental work and out-of-the-box thinking wouldn't be wise, would it?

    And if I come across as bragging, that was never my intention.

    There are always 12 - 14 repeaters. :)

    The repeaters are spread through random ranges.

    The narrowest random repeater range is where, for example, the number 1 comes up two times in a row.

    The widest repeater random range is where, for example, the first spin lands the number 1, but only repeats that number on spin 37.

    As indicated above, the ranges contract and expand randomly for every 37-spin cycle; sometimes close together, sometimes far apart; sometimes close to perfect balance.

    You need to find the ideal number of numbers to bet on that will take advantage of the random expansion and contraction between the repeaters.

    If you bet on too many numbers, the wide random ranges will clobber you.

    If you don't bet on enough numbers, you'll miss out on the close random ranges.

    And the foundational principle is to follow what the wheel does, which is all explained in the thread.

    Search on this forum for my FREE Roulette Numbers Data Extractor script to study repeater patterns and repeater ranges. You'll need Roulette Scripter Studio Pro though.

    The script might give you a fresh perspective on roulette.

    For example, there are those who might be locked into the belief that a flat-betting system can't work because what they are familiar with are progression based methods where you make the deliberate effort to recoup your losses.

    However, with the system grail, there is no preoccupation with recouping losses. The system takes care of that on its own. It's a total mental shift altogether.
     
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    As a foundation stone:

    Follow what the wheel does using a limited number of bets on the table.

    Anyhow,... for those of you guys who have contacted me regarding number pairings, let me reveal this:

    All the numbers in roulette are connected logically and consecutively.

    Of course, the inventors of the game have made every effort to confuse the player by rearranging the numbers on the roulette wheel, but don't fall for this deception.

    Here we go:

    1 | 2
    2 | 3
    3 | 4
    4 | 5
    5 | 6
    6 | 7
    7 | 8
    8 | 9
    9 | 10
    10 | 11
    11 | 12
    12 | 13
    13 | 14
    14 | 15
    15 | 16
    16 | 17
    17 | 18
    18 | 19
    19 | 20
    20 | 21
    21 | 22
    22 | 23
    23 | 24
    24 | 25
    25 | 26
    26 | 27
    27 | 28
    28 | 29
    29 | 30
    30 | 31
    31 | 32
    32 | 33
    33 | 34
    34 | 35
    35 | 36

    And for the zero, 0, that tries to mess up any balanced strategy, we have ...

    0 | 1

    The above pairings take care of your singles and doubles all at the same time. :)

    Do you see the balancing guys?
     

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