Roulette @ albalaha, do you have any database with real spin sequences of lots of repeats collected?

There are no problem in bet selection systems at all (not MM). For me there arent good or bad systems. They all are the same and they are not valid or useless, they just are. I even dont understand why people are wasting time searching for a special betselection system while Red and Black percentage every time will be the same - 0,48 and betselection dont change it.

For me key to success is tricky, complex, changing, smart money management system in a short run.

 

All you EC players consider Frank Barstow`s Principle of diminishing probabilities of repeating patterns of even chances .


My favorite short term EC system .

 

...........repeating patterns of even chances an indication that a change is imminent.




Play at your own risk.

 

Actually, the Barstow style is golden long term as yer gonna be certain to buck up against result that adhere to streaks distributions stat. But ya can get clipped and clipped hard in the shorts term, hey hey.

 

Sox fan,

Exclude the Baccarat EC from from Barstow`s principle. It backfires there.


ND

 

Actually Barstow style works very well at the baccrats. People think baccrats is a "streaky" game but it ain't. Streak of 5+ are a rare event, hey hey.

 

I do agree and that is about confirming losses over a very long run. Varying bets mathematically with an approach like martingale, fibonacci or labouchere can beat any stretch albeit with higher bets. They negate the basic premise of sum of all average bets will have to be average which holds good for flat bet only.
Actually people have never witnessed any successful progression with so much logic that it may cater to the worst and the best cases alike. So assertions like none can win in random games are true to the extent of such ignorance. Calling this a math like 1+1=2 is wrong. You may say no known progression can do that, you can not say it is impossible mathematically.

 

Albalaha,

Why don't you just become an AP player rather than wasting sooooooooooooooo much time on the progression nonsense? Try as you might you can't multiply a negative number times a positive one and produce a positive outcome. Which is basically what you're trying to do with the "surviving the worst progression" crap.

Take up visual ballistics or bias in roulette
Learn to count cards or hole carding in BJ or the carnival card games.
Hook up with the glitch hunters on the slots, or raise enough money to buy into the Russian syndicate slot team.

 

But, but, but, what if a cat can win betting flat, huh, hey hey????

 

Oh, I see you're looking for advice huh?
If you were really an AP, and you could win flat betting, then you'd be asking me, "Should I milk or should I burn?"

 

When you have a real edge, the progression/money management is the easiest most mindless thing you do. Everything that needs to be said about it can fit on a page, maybe a paragraph. The real questions involve opportunity value, preservation, milk or burn, and camouflage. The progression is just..meh.

 

And if there’s a +EV situation in a “-EV game“ that doesn’t require an anomaly to exploit? If it’s just been sitting there, waiting to be exploited, waiting to be played by those who test enough to find it, who allow it to reveal itself?

Wins flat betting, but is accelerated by a simple one paragraph progression...any progression actually. Because the progression doesn’t matter, exactly as you mentioned.

Lurkers reading this, keep looking. It’s there. Put the time in, you’ll find it.

 

This is a common misconception. It's *not* the case that "short run everything works".

(1) You *could* win in the short run. It's *possible*, but the odds are still against you.

(2) It's *impossible* to win in the long run. That doesn't mean you'll *definitely* win in the short run.

 

In my article (which I probably am not allowed to link to here, Google it), that is *not* what I said. What I *actually* said was:

(1) The Martingale *increases* the chances of having a winning session in the short term, vs. flat-betting. It doesn't *guarantee* you'll have a winning session.
(2) When you do have a losing session, you'll lose BIG. Like many betting systems, the Martingale trades many sessions of small wins for a few with devastating losses.

The expected value of the game is the same (negative), whether you're using the Martingale or not.

How much are you willing to lose? You could lose your very first bet and several after that. Start with $5 and lose 11 bets in a row (I've seen it happen) and you'll be down $20,475, and will need to pony up $20,480 for bet #12...if you can find a casino willing to take that much action on a single bet.

If you don't believe me, go to my site (easy.vegas), click over to my online casino advertiser, and try to win with the Martingale. I'm sure my advertiser will be very happy.

 

Yeah, well, you demanded evidence that any reputable textbook actually said that betting systems don't work, and then after two were provided, you *immediately* dismissed them. e.g.:

So, forgive me if I'm skeptical. You've shown that you always reject evidence, that you won't change your mind regardless of the quantity and quality of the evidence presented.

 

& how does 'all that you say' help/make you win

<imagine .. 1
you seem to me as one frozen in time
standing on one a small patch of land
howling at the all the bypassesers
that planting seeds on that patch of land won't work
'JUST BECAUSE YOU TRIED IT, FAILED'
& 'you've seen so many others do the same'
& "SO" it impossible>


pitty the fool - move on with your life


<imagine .. 2
a guy teaching business @ economics university
was deemed & esteemed very very higly in various & plentyful circles - globally
he wrote many papers, even several books on business

one day 17 year old boy [who read his best book at 15 & 14]
who did not graduate at all, never finished any 'so called official schooling'
was awaiting him at the university entrance
recognizing the cover teacher headed towards him
expecting the boy to be 'sucking' at his 'wisdom boobs'
when teacher approached him he pointed the look at the book, at him, at his car, at the university,
at him, at the book - at him, at his feet
throwingly dropped the book at his feet
spat on it
& casually moved on


guess what
the professor never even owned a business
after finishing the diploma
he got straight into the 'employment' of teaching business
he drove 17-year old Kia, bought it third hand as well -
never mind mortgaged, like his flat, like his studies, like all his life
like the fiat currency he was using - but that's beyond the scope ..
.. preaching 'business' to 100s of business eager students obliged to listen to his 'trash' every year
don't even need to point out that 17 year young bwoy made more money in his
few month business life than the preacher in all of his higly esteemed career>


now put 1 & 2 together .. it equals to not how much but who
1+2=U; U=you, yes you Micheal Bluejay]

 

first remove everything unnecessary

 

& that is that.
- Bruce Lee

 

[QUOTE = "thereddiamanthe, publicación: 94641, miembro: 6298"] y eso es todo.
- Bruce Lee [/ CITA]
I'm still waiting for your message ...

 

The above quote is from your blog
how-izak-matatya-beats-15-000-spins-of-american-ro-t19104220.html

How did you get to 12x1295?