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TurboGenius Advantage of Repeaters explained - part 3 - 2020

Discussion in 'TurboGenius's Forum' started by TurboGenius, Mar 27, 2020.

  1. eugene

    eugene Well-Known Member

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    I made this a couple of years ago and posted it on a few different sites but never posted it on here. I think it's appropriate for this thread.

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    It shows 5 cycles of 37 spins and displays the hit count. It also shows after each cycle how many numbers are below average appearance, how many have came at the expected frequency and how many are above their expectation.

    So for example, in the first picture after 3 cycles (111 spins) there are 12 numbers that have hit less than three times, 13 numbers that have hit three times and 12 numbers that have hit above three times. One of those numbers has hit 9 times and therefore is way above expectation. The next best was one number hitting six times.
     
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  2. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    I have no idea why you keep saying this.
    I can run a session or any amount of sessions and it shows the same results - nothing near "irregular" at all.
    How you come up with that kind of result is beyond me.
    Of course every time I post my results (that I always do as I'm making a post) - I'm told that I hand picked that session.
    As if there's a need to do that ? There isn't.

    Here's one I'll run right now - does it matter ? Probably not, but again it shows the same predictable results -
    nothing "uncommon", nothing that isn't "regular" results. So let's see how it goes. (again).

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    So we had 60 spots to fill, did they fill "randomly" ? or without being able to be predicted ? No.
    Only 11 numbers filled 60 spots.
    #9 appeared 17 times, #10 appeared 12 times - 1/2 of the possible spots were filled by only 2 numbers.
    Predictable ? You say no ?
    In the "matches" column - were there 0's once the data began flowing in ?
    I see a lot of 2's and 3's - a single 1, then 2's and 3's from then on.....
    You say this jumps all over the place and new numbers appear in these spots (would mean 0's).
    It doesn't happen, it can't happen. You can test this as many times as you'd like but saying these
    aren't predictable results is a blatant lie.
    Do all spots appear on average better than expected ? 1:37 ? Yes. By a lot !
    Do all spots appear on average better than the payout ? 35:1 ? Yes. By a lot !

    Given this info you still don't see the predictable results ? Or is is just trolling, I don't know.
    Do you think around spin 100 you could play 9,10,34 and win ? You would win a "shitload" of chips.
    Or you can pretend to not see the results, say it's not "common" and keep moving along.
    You decide.
     
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  3. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    It sure is.
    You'll see the 2's and 3's in the "matches" column, and no 0's........
    If you know what's not going to happen - you then know what is going to happen.
    Building a method based on something predictable and being right 100% of the time is the beauty of it all.
     
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  4. Denzie

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    Thx TurboGenius! Crystal clear... my first tests are winning flatbetting. Now put it on some steroïds to drag more chips my way. Thanks again !!!!!
     
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  5. Rulet

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    Not Trolling,
    You mean 9,10,4
    I didn’t say it doesn’t win, doesn’t win all the time.
    Don’t want to argue with you anymore, let’s leave it at this.
    Forum users are clever enough to make up their own minds.
     
  6. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    No, I mean 9,10,34 as I said.
    And there's never a need to argue - the facts which anyone can reproduce on their own speaks the truth.

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  7. Rulet

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    At 17x spin 373 you are betting #9 or #10 or both, doesn’t matter just for examples sake, ok so far?
    Now, you miss the first #34 at 433 so according to what you say about not playing the top 3 numbers “that loses” you say, you drop 9 and/or 10 and start betting 34?
    Doesn’t make sense cos 9 and 10 keeps hitting, so you do play the top 3
    Gotcha
     
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  8. Naughty but nice

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    Has top 3 or even 4 revealed to be those that could go thru: the roof?
     
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    Now I got bored with trying to get the Turb's results. But i might go back to testing.
     
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  11. Naughty but nice

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    Eugene or wiggy is the graph ok.
     
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    Trying to break the 10'000; wondered if it would get there? Naughty prog some spins back.
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    Didn't like spins 231 to 271
     
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    Did I use the time machine
     

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    230 spins = 6 cycles give or take a few spins and you have 4 numbers come up at twice the expected result.

    It looks like 8 numbers reaching expectation.
    16 numbers below expectation.
    12 above expectation.

    …and they say it's unpredictable!
     
  16. TurboGenius

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    Here's a simple example (and not even the "best" way to play this)

    What numbers were I maxed out on as far as betting amount ?
    4,8,11,14,19,34

    What numbers were the hottest and ended up being the top performers ?
    11,19,34 with 12 appearances each
    14,22 with 11 appearances each

    How many did I get right ?
    What was the balance after betting $1,700 per spin (lol)
    And I'm at spin 267, so the math people can tell me what my balance should be.
    +$30,450.00

    Was there a time machine ?

    This is on my "play" account where I goof off.
    Steve says I can't be in first place there anymore because it's impossible to beat this game
    without cheating (I have 30 or so quotes of him saying this.... but that's for another thread).
    If my "goofing off" account is in 1st (and has been) now at over a million profit..... but I digress.
    People who listen to him should know better.

    https://roulette-simulator.info/en/game/904574fa6edb988f8724f82419a9b104

    The other games on this account are just goofing off with various ideas and nonsense - but I figured
    that I would show this example to anyone still baffled and confused.
    Have a nice day.
     
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  17. Platton

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    Hello. Recently found this thread. Thanks Turbo for your work and sharing. Make much of test and its not easy for me to understand how it work. Yes we can`t do bets all 3 number, cuse it will be need to win every 12 spins for some profit or break-even. Its not happen. Same with one number of top. Its not always one number. Its different from time to time. So its to not win. I test many others ideas. But did not succeed. Because whatever number you bet in, it need to occur at least once in 35 spins to make a profit. But it doesn 't always happen, and besides the numbers are constantly changing. So it need somehow select numbers so that they will drop out in the next 35 spins for each number separately. Its seems so easy, with what Turbo shared and explained, but I can`t find out how to use it?
    So for that moment are some big questions:
    1) Whether it is possible to win at all with this system flat bet always??? Or it need use some progression for this?
    2)In the last table that Turbo shared, I understand that we must begining play only at 10x-11x (from over 200 spins), when numbers become more predictable. Thats means we can`t win in the beginning below 200 spins.
     
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  18. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    To the second question, I started with this example with 3x - no problems. It was around spin 14.
    If you're casino has a reader board with past spins, you could probably just start at the moment that you sit down... you have
    a recent history at hand. Where I play now has the last 100 spins. There's no wait time.

    To the first question - I would never flat bet when I have the advantage.
    If the player has the advantage and flat bets, they might win small / break even etc.
    Using any "up as you win" progression while having an advantage is the best approach in my opinion.
    This means the chart will have ups and downs (which the anti-system people say means something doesn't work, or
    isn't worth it) but that's fine with me.
     
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  19. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Just to throw this out because I know some people will already jump on it.
    This play account has 18 resets.
    18 resets X 3,000 bankrolls = 54k
    $1,060,685.00 - $54k would mean a legit bankroll now of $1,006,685.00
    So yes - a million+ in profit using nothing but a 3k bankroll.
    Figured I would point that out because I know at least 1 person will say the resets are relevant,
    when it isn't even my serious play account.
     
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    I can't agree with that. We should be done by that time. Waiting 11x ?? Thats just crazy . And the # are hitting to slow imo. I start at 2x or 3x depending the results in the matching colums.
     
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