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TurboGenius Advantage of Repeaters explained - part 3 - 2020

Discussion in 'TurboGenius's Forum' started by TurboGenius, Mar 27, 2020.

  1. Bago

    Bago Well-Known Member

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    Do you realize if 111 people track the wheel at different moments (from the morning to the night), they will all have different leading numbers, now explain me how all those gamblers will be winning at the end of the day when all the betting table has been covered all day long. The system players using statistics do not like my argument because it demolishes the fact that you would profit from leading/hot numbers, and the same for cold numbers. For one player, according to his stats, a number is cold, whereas for another one who began to track the winning numbers 2 hours after, this same number is very hot like a fries hut. The fucking wheel has no memory and does not give a shit of what past numbers you wrote on your scorecard.
     
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  2. Naughty but nice

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    Thrown ball's as Sergio likes to say.
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    The new high didn't come from the top contender
     
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  3. Smitridel

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    Indeed its all a matter of perspective however when you put a frame on them (37spins, 40 whatever) you see that its the nature of random to repeat itself.

    If you watch the numbers spin by spin its just one number at a time.
    Just as when you look at the horizon you could naively assume that the earth is flat.
     
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    Mister Turbo would be very grateful, if you gave me the permanence of 104 balls that I sent you from a software roulette playing with real money .... thanks
     
  5. Bago

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    We know that random produces repeaters, streaks, chops, sleepers, an average of 24 numbers appearing in 37 spins, but all those facts that random produces are observed AFTERWARDS. There is no way to predict beforehand which numbers will repeat with statistics. If you told me you have predicting powers thanks to a crystal ball or because God whispers the future winning numbers to you, I might believe you, but with past statistics, NO WAY, since the game is independant events based, even the most sophisticated AI software would not find any link between winning numbers.
     
  6. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    I keep saying it, it will sink in eventually.
    If you're looking for the mysterious repeater(s) ie. numbers that will appear twice....
    you start by looking at the numbers that have appeared once, and clearly pay no attention to the numbers that haven't appeared
    at all yet.
    If you want to know what number(s) will appear 3 times, simply look at the numbers that have appeared twice.
    This is common sense.
    You can't help but reduce the pool of possible winners to a manageable level. No God whispering or crystal balls, or time
    machines required. I'm still not sure why you don't understand this yet.

    What number will go to 3x first ?
    A number that is at 2x now - or a number that is at 0x ?
    If it's the 0x number - it will only be because it became a 1x, 2x number and is now a possible answer.
     
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  7. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    I'm not sure why for some people the video on random never kicked in.

    Independent events can't be predicted - when you combine them (a session) events are predictable.
    This was demonstrated rather clearly in the video, more so than needed to be honest.
    Like the part where the speaker "predicted" 8 as the result... what happened ? 8....8.....8.....8
    Was it God ? Was it magic ? Was it a time machine ?????
    Was it all phony and rigged ? Isn't there an explanation that makes sense even when it's spelled out as plain as day ?
    Maybe there's no hope. If someone can't look past a single spin being the beginning and the end, there's no hope.
    It's like telling a track star they can't win the race because you know for a fact that one step alone in the race isn't enough
    for them to win. It takes more than 1 spin to win, sorry. 1 spin on it's own cannot be predicted.
     
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  8. Bago

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    This has been already covered but I will repeat again. Roulette is not what you describe, betting on a number that will hit 3 times first for instance, versus another number that didn't appear yet. In this case, the odds that the number that appeared 2 times reaches the third hit is much lower than the one that didn't appear. As I said, you are re-inventing the game, you are raving.

    Roulette spins are independant, and statistically speaking, the number that hit twice do not have any advantage whatsoever to be the next winner on the following spin, versus another number that never appeared. Both have 1/37 chance to be the next winning number, this is undisputable.

    You are mixing on purpose the odds that a number will reach X hits first, and the odds of each number hitting on the next spin, and again, Roulette consists in betting what is the next winning number on the next spin, simple but hard to understand obviously even for you who studied the game for 20 years.
     
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  9. gizmotron

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    It's all subjective and shows a sense of a law of thirds. One third of the cold numbers will heat up, one third of the hot numbers will go cold. So one third of the numbers that hit 2 times will go to sleep. It's mechanical. It must go into phases of not working. A progression will get killed off. There is only one way to exploit it. You must be in a phase where the short blast hottest numbers hit 3 or 4 times in under 30 spins. This is an observable condition. Sometimes this characteristic swarms for 100 to 200 spins. But sometimes there are no swarms of hot blasts. Ken was working on a method to capture short lived hot blasts. I don't think he ever shared his conclusions on what he discovered. But I consider it the best stuff on hottest numbers.
     
  10. Rulet

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    What number will go to 3x first ?
    A number that is at 2x now - or a number that is at 0x ?
    If it's the 0x number - it will only be because it became a 1x, 2x number and is now a possible answer.


    0x number can and does go 3x, seen it many times.
    In this game #22 hit 6 times within 20 odd spins and took the lead.
    One of my earlier postings.
     

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  11. TurboGenius

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    And as I clearly said - a number at 0x getting to 3x needs to FIRST become a 1x, then a 2x...
    and then....

    yes, it can become a 3x just like any other 2x winner/potential.

    Please pay attention.
     
  12. TurboGenius

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    I'll just move posts not related to the topic at hand to their own thread - instead of the graveyard where no one can see them.
     
  13. Rulet

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    Ok that’s fair enough but what I mean is in that game when #22 was just 2x and there were plenty of 3x and 4x numbers which were better candidates to become 5x or more but 22 came out of nowhere and overtook them. At what point would you have noticed 22 and bet on it?
     
  14. Rulet

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    See, this happens regularly, numbers changing and coming from behind whilst you’re betting on top performers and not getting many hits.
     

  15. TurboGenius

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    At the moment it became a contender for the target X I'm shooting for
     
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  16. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Overall, no it does not happen regularly, as many posts with data have shown that the top 3 (for example) will at least have 2 numbers - if not all 3 in the next "X" position. They don't just "appear" at random, the results are predictable. for example

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  17. Rulet

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    Look, I am fair, I know your system wins big at times, but it also loses and issues with big drawdowns.
    That’s my experience of it, I know you disagree.
     
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    If it wins big....how many BR you won ?
    If it lost... how many BR you lost ?
    :)
     
  19. Rulet

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    Not interested anymore, I am out.
    Take care
     
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  20. Denzie

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    Turbo and TM go into a bar and sit down for a drink (I don't drink, I had coffee).

    TM: Hey - how did it go today ?
    Turbo: Good, good... won again.
    TM: Haaa ! Of course you did - still telling that old story ?
    (Turbo shrugs)

    TM: Hey - I was standing there ya know - I was writing down all of those spins that came out while you were playing.... Did you know that 4 of those numbers never showed once the entire time that you were playing ???
    Turbo: Yeah. I noticed that - I never played them, I lostnothing on them so it doesn't matter.
    TM: Whatever - I just noticed they didn't show up.... if you had bet on them boy - you would have lost a lot with that stupid progression of yours !
    Turbo: Well... I didn't play those numbers, and I never would - so I never lost even $1.00 because of them.
    (quiet)
    (TM sips and orders another drink)
    TM: Heyy - did you notice that #4 came out 5 times ! That was crazy !
    Turbo: Yep - I won on it 4 times, was great.
    (TM sips again)
    TM: Well whoah whoah I saw #10 show up 3 times in a row - crazy how random works isn't it ? I mean the whole time you were there it popped up what ? 8 times ??? Crazy.
    Turbo: Yep.. I won on it 7 times, that was another great number.
    TM: Well, it's luck you know. You can't predict future spins........
    Turbo: No, no I can't. But it's not luck.
    (TM downs his/her drink and orders another one)
    TM: I mean what the hell right ? #5 and #9 showed up exactly like they were supposed to - so there !!! Didn'thelp you there did it ? I mean hitting at the expected amount ?? House edge !!!!
    Turbo: Yep - lost a little bit... at the house edge... #4 and #10 covered any bit I lost though and plowed me into a huge profit. No worries.
    (quiet)

    TM: Well - so yeah overall nothing special happened, you just got lucky - had a good night huh ?
    Turbo: Nah - just used math.
    TM: Ha ! You don't know math obviously. Hey - that guy sat down and played on the same numbers you were on and lost ! Haaaaaaaa. So much for that idea huh ?
    Turbo: No.. I already won on them - they are "past spins" for him and aren't relevant. He should havestarted with his own idea when he sat down.

    (quiet)
    TM: Whatever - hey go brag about it on the forums I guess huh ?
    Turbo: Nope, just going to keep doing what I'm doing.
    TM: Pffffff yeah 'cause long term that house edge is gonna get you HaaHaa.
    Turbo: No, I'll win ever time I play.
     
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