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TurboGenius Advantage of Repeaters explained - part 3 - 2020

Discussion in 'TurboGenius's Forum' started by TurboGenius, Mar 27, 2020.

  1. Denzie

    Denzie Active Member

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    If you read the above one might think he just plays # as they come with a progression :banghead:
     
  2. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Wow, I remember that post.
     
  3. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Wow, two people "out" in one day ?
    I seriously doubt that is going to happen.
     
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  4. Platton

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    I think they finally figured it out and didn 't want to be suspected of it and went to finally earn money. :)
    Villains... Could share thoughts... Okay, I 'm gonna go get a puzzle and test it further...
     
  5. Denzie

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    Just to annoy some people ...
    I'll just leave this here ..
    :angelic:
     

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  6. Denzie

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    Some good ways been shared here...try them and see how it goes...
     
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  7. Smitridel

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    Back on topic: Just had a long session (209 spins) about two hours online live real roulette following top 3 (interchanging as necessary) and marty possitive progression.
    Very slow game, repeaters were dragging..

    My first "loss" for a long time
    Standing at - 280 units(real money) but still net positive.
    Went down, up, down then boom up.
    Got tired and stopped - still wondering if I kept going would I have come with a profit?

    Top 2 (36,22) had been at it for 10x times changing positions but still the same numbers most of the time (from 2x up to 10x)
     
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  8. Smitridel

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    Edit:
    Just a heads up for those trying:
    You need a large enough BR to overcome variance (especially when your progression is high) and time.
    Time is everything, so be patient.
     
  9. Denzie

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    That should be enough to win i think. You mind telling how you played ?
     
  10. Smitridel

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    Sure.
    I use a couple of methods depending on time available to play.
    Last night was the sloppy one (but generally it works).
    Target to start betting was 2x.
    Top 3 numbers.
    Race between 3 columns.
    Always betting 2-3 numbers (first 2 to 3 to reach my desired nX).

    Progression Marty but specific to each number so that once a number was +2 from the rest, it would have the most units progression wise. The other one or two behind had their own progression depending on whether they came second or first.

    Now if a new number came forward to replace the old one on its spot (first second or third) progression would be reset back to 1 on it because I wasnt accurate enough.
    If all three changed (a bit rare once ypu go to 4x or 5x) reset them all to 1 unit.

    Generally speaking you reward each top dog for being ahead of the rest of the herd. So if the tops stay the same throughout your session they would have the most units.
     
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  11. Denzie

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    So you lost units because everytime your top dog switches back to second place and didn't win those big bets ? ( first loses 4u each spin while second eventually won 2u bet) ...

    You still have the sheet ? If so post it please.
     
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    No I lost the units because I got tired and stopped before breaking even.
    The drawdown reason was the fact that the top dogs remained on top 3 but the gaps were very wide (there were other rpeaters hitting with equal distribution) so in that case the possitive progression was working against my BR.
    Eventually the hits came and I got back from - 750 to - 280 (almost 500 units comeback).

    I know the weakness of this method and its exactly that - bad variance and equal distribution.
    No I dont think theres a point in waiting like Eugene - I think its a bit fallacious- waiting for random to get through a rough patch like when you have lots of 2xs or 3xs and no one is standing.

    I have the spins at home - Ill post them when I get back.
     
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  13. Denzie

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    Chart-2.png

    Misfits will say "Look at the draw down !!!"
    A) A draw down isn't relevant when you look at the blue "average" data in the first chart.
    B) A draw down isn't relevant when you look at the red "average bankroll" line in this RX chart.
    C) Draw downs are irrelevant - unless of course you are betting at a larger unit size than you
    should be and deplete your bankroll. That's the gambler's problem (money management) and not
    the system failing.
     
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    Exactly.
    I remember that post very vividly by TG.
    Thats why I said you need a big BR or a customizable progression to your BR.

    I personally recomend AT LEAST 1/1000 ratio.
     
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  15. Denzie

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    We all get those sessions. Even TG. I think he can admit that. As long whatever we're doing is winning more than it loses we'll be fine. (If you come across this while testing...most throw it in the bin already)
     
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  16. Naughty but nice

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    Den and all; I posted this some posts back. Its all in here
     
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    Yes , but you can't just bet all of them. So how will YOU bet ?
     
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    Den; How many would you have, say by spin 36; say 4.

    Watch how many matches you have as the spins come? If the matches are, say 2, each time, you must be making units.

    But the question is; what do you want to win? The bigger the win the further you will go, then the gaps will come in to play.
     
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    Den; what are the red? but look who's in play later
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    The R4; gives a match 1 of R3’s, was the gap small enough to profit. Same for when 1st R3 hit, it doesn’t match the R2’s, but was the gap still profitable?

    The 2nd R3, is it profitable?

    Well by spin 59; yes.
     
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