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TurboGenius Advantage of Repeaters explained - part 3 - 2020

Discussion in 'TurboGenius's Forum' started by TurboGenius, Mar 27, 2020.

  1. CDN

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    Each column is an individual race. Apply the progressions accordingly. If #5 is selected on column 1 and 2 rows later it appears on Column B, add the progressions i.e 1 unit on #5 (column A) plus 1u on #5 column B=2 units on #5. 1 row later, #5 shows in column B, bet 6 unots on #5(1u for column A and 5 units for column B). 1 row later, #5 appears in column B, reset the progression to 1 on that one for a total of 2 units (1u for column A and 1 unit for column B).

    If that is too much of a headache, use Option 2 as i showed in the previous post (1 number only for each column) and add more columns(D,E,etc). That will limit the numbers played and take advantage of the "repeater rushes" at the lower stages ( for example the case where you have a "sleepy" column A with no action and a very "hot" number in column E).
     
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  2. Smitridel

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    Based on CDNs suggestion your first pair would be 30. Then you should have dropped it and played 28 instead. Even before 28 became 9x you would have won.
    End of session.
     
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  3. Rulet

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    When 28 hit 6x I had won twice on it then a gap of 100 or more spins before 28 hit 7x
    Middle of session
     
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  4. Smitridel

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    I like "headache".
    Plus it resembles my style of playing so I like your idea of it.

    Per your rule for a number to be qualified in any column it needs to be at least +1 of the herd.
    So if as you say #5 first qualified on A column (it appeared two times not consecutively but totally) but then moved to column B, it would have only 1 appearance on column B.
    Thus why would we need to raise the progression or should we even drop it since it doesnt meet the selection criteria?
     
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  5. Rulet

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    I wasn’t playing cdns system, could have been a long wait otherwise
     
  6. CDN

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    Sure, you can play the progression number-dependent instead of column(race dependent). No problem with that. Positive progression on a hit. 1-5-reset to 1.
    Looking at the consecutive repeaters on the above picture notice something?
    Row 3x Column B bet #1
    Row 6x column A bet #5
    Row 6x column B bet #29 remove #1
    Row 6x column C bet #7
    Row 7x column A win on #29
    Row 7x column B win on #5
    Row 7x column C win on #7
    .....

    1-5-hit reset to 1.
     
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    Notice the stream of numbers on columns 1,2 and 3
    Column A
    Row2x #30
    Row6x #28
    Row 11x #29
    Row 13x #28

    Column B
    Row2x #3
    Row 6x #1

    Column C
    Nil

    In three streams of data, you have 1 active column, (column 1), 1 medium column (column 2) and one dead column (column 3)

    Another one

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    Column A
    Row 6x #5
    Row 8x #29
    Row 11x #5
    Row 13x #25
    Row 17x #8
    Row 19x #9

    Column B
    Row 3x #1
    Row 6x #29
    Row 8x #5
    Row 13x #27
    Row 17x #7

    Column C
    Row 6x#7
    Row 13x #0
     
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  8. Rulet

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    Thank you for explaining,
    Ok in my game when 28 hit 6x, it took more than 100 spins for it to hit 7x.
    So, do I take a loss on that?
    I mean it hit plenty more after 7x to make up for the long absence but what we can’t see on that list is the 4th 5th place horses on a same number of hits as the leading 3. I tend to play those as well and ended up playing 10 numbers at one point.
     
  9. Smitridel

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    You need to have a way of filtering the hot numbers and when to drop them like CDN suggested etc.
    Otherwise you end up with lots of them like on your case.

    Also a big BR is a must to make the drawdown less dangerous from cases like yours, because as you can see after a long pause, hits (may) come in a row.
     
  10. Rulet

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    I have just played a sesh 40 minutes or so 112 units won. Circled numbers are where I hit. Comments on the side regarding number 0
     

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    Starting another session, wish me luck
    Forgot to say it was all flatbet
     
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    Just wanted to make a remark on how relatively easy to follow this thread is, without the usual nonsense and troll posts.

    Kudos to all for keeping the right attitude and to TG of course for another inspiring thread.
    Ok made my off topic comment, back to work now :)
     
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    Finished the sesh 50 minutes
    216 units won
    Good luck everyone
    Same thing circled numbers when I hit
    Comments about number 7
    Good night
    Tend to drop al numbers after 4x apart from the 4x
     

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    Balance needs to go off kilter at some point, dropping numbers and waiting for it is the answer
     

  15. Jono1167

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    Hi Quos

    Yes, I only bet on the numbers which appear in the top 3 positions. I start at level 3. I’m testing on RS.

    The method is described fully below. This is holding up so far, but importantly it is allowing me to collect good data.

    See the first table below. This is an example of a straight forward session.

    Betting begins at level 3 when a number has appeared for the third time. Each number is bet on a separate stream for 35 spins. If no win is recorded, remove the unit for a loss. At first profit, finish session. A positive progression is used if you get a win, but you’re not in profit.

    The first number to get three hits is #15 which has appeared on spin 25 (1 unit is placed on this).
    The second number to get three hits is #9 which has appeared at spin 27 (1 unit is placed on this).
    #9 appears for the fourth time at spin 30 for a profit. The session ends.

    (1x) 13-(1) 25-(2) 26-(3)
    (2x) 15-(7) 13-(12) 9-(15)
    (3x) 15-(25) 09-(27) —
    (4x) 9-(30)
    Win +27

    See the table below. This is an example where a positive progression is used.

    At level 3, one unit is placed on #16 (spin 20), #14 (spin 25) and #4 (spin 30).
    #4 is the first to reach four hits @ spin 48. Although a win, we are behind overall.
    A positive progression is used on #4 (2 units). #4 reaches 5 hits @ spin 53. A profit so session ends.

    (1x) 8-(01 ) 16-(2) 24-(3)
    (2x) 16-(7) 14-(16) 21-(17)
    (3x) 16-(20) 14-(25) 4-(30)W
    (4x) 4-(48) — —
    (5x) 4-(53) — —
    Win+22

    Still testing and collecting data but I hope this helps.
    Cheers
     
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    I’m fairly certain the method I described above won’t perform long-term. Although I haven’t recorded a loss, I have just completed a very tight session. Without a stop-loss, the method will eventually fail. I’m sure of this. Turbo has previously said you shouldn’t bet the top three numbers. I think a more conservative approach is needed. When I first started testing this, I was testing one or two numbers max, I might go back to that.

    No such thing as a failure when you’re testing and recording data!
     
  17. chewtoy

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    Hey Smitridel,

    Don't use martingale progression, flatbetting is the best for repeaters. accept the up and downs, and loss if there are any when you want to end the session. and be careful on how you choose the roulette. learn about roulette, all the airball roulette have featured RRS (random rotation speed) where the speed of the roulette slow or speed up to change the result of where the ball land, its all computerized, some other roulette have piezoelectric balls which can be polarized to avoid falling in certain pockets.

    If you keep playing with airball roulette, always play with low chips, no martingale, or progression and make sure you have lots of player playing at the same time. Be careful with roulette with croupier they can have RRS too... so choose carefully which roulette you play on.
     
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    I think people always try to make it too complicated and have 100% win through progression and other system... Ricky is right it is important to accept loss. What turbo explained is actually simple, and we should all keep it simple.

    flat betting, which means having a negative bankroll at some point before reaching positive and stopping at what we want to win without being too greedy.

    only playing up to 3 numbers (not set in stones though depending on the situation) because what has been observed by Turbo is with thiese 3 numbers which repeat on average every 24 spins and thats it...

    the last but very important part are this 24 spins, so choose an intervals where you start to play and one where you stop till another opportunity appear. Personally I play 24 spins around spin 24 from the hit.
     
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    Thank you for the advise however RRS, mapping whatever mechanisms may exist to manipulate results cannot do any harm because the process is relative.
    You need to understand that in a table full of bettors someone's losing numbers is another one's winning numbers.

    Please stop recycling conspiracy fallacies - casinos dont need manipulation to have the edge in a game of chance and gamblers being..gamblers.

    Whether you rely on simple random or manipulated random, its still random.
    Hypothetically manipulation may even work in your favor if say the casino decides to block a high roller's numbers and is forced to show any other results to the rest of the players.

    Any kind of "manipulation" would be harmfull if all players were playing the exact same numbers, which I dont think is probable.

    The ONLY exception is online RNG software which is casino-to-peer (the software runs locally on your browser or HD). Now that is definitely prone to fixed results and mapping.
     
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  20. eugene

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    Rulet appears to be playing with real money looking at some of his screenshots and I said I would do it and post my results once the UK B+M casinos which stream their tables online reopen in early July.

    It wouldn't surprise me in the least if there are lots of players looking forward to giving these ideas a try once the Casino business gets back underway and it's safe to go back in and play.
     
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