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Roulette Past spins

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by TurboGenius, Dec 7, 2015.

  1. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    I wanted to point out the obvious as well - but again it's probably something that no one wants to hear.

    The casino doesn't do anything to help the gambler win.
    They have the edge already but it's not enough, so they control every aspect of the gambler's
    experience in whatever way magnifies that edge.
    No clocks around so you don't notice how much time has passed.
    Drinks - to loosen up that common sense part of the brain and make people want to take
    more risk
    Sounds - smells - lights - everything.....

    And behold - the history box lit up right by the wheel with past spins showing.
    Now seriously..... is the casino posting past spins in order to try to help the gambler
    win ? If you believe this, please don't gamble.
    It's there because it helps to promote betting - either by system players who use past spins
    to determine where to bet, or innocent bystanders who might see "red red red red red red" and
    decide that black just Has to show up soon.
    It's there because it helps them win even more $ because people don't understand what
    random is when it comes to this game.
    One person might see a 'pattern' - someone else a 'trigger' - someone else might see something
    they like and decide to start betting.. "Oh - this table has lots of repeaters", etc.

    Please use common sense and understand that past spins don't matter in the slightest,
    and the display board is simply another tool they use to get $ flowing from your pocket
    to theirs.

    Math beats a math game - Present spin and future spins win, the past spins don't hold a
    single clue to help the player.
    Notice how some now show lots of statistics - hottest numbers, coldest numbers, etc.
    Do you think they would display this to the players if it helped the player to win
    and for them as a casino to lose ? think.

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  2. REV

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    Okay can u answer me this gamblers fallacy question[Present spin and future spins win, the past spins don't hold a
    single clue to help the player.Man walks in the Casino looks at the board and notices that numbers 1-6 havent hit for ninety spins his system is bet on 6 numbers with a 25 step progression.......my test show 6 numbers in a group win every time......This is far better than just picking 6 numbers at random as you can face no wins for ninety spins.......? Most people use a trigger or track a group of hitters betting on any six could cost you around 540 units from scratch if u bet five dollars that a bankroll of 2500 dollars!!!!!!! big loss..
     
  3. TurboGenius

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    Absolutely not the case. After just running 1800 spins I already have 20+ numbers that haven't shown for more than your 90 + 25 (115 spins in a row).
    If his system was to play any 6 of these 20+ numbers, the progression busts and it will take "x" number of small wins now without another progression bust in order to get back to even or profit.
    See "Max Interval" column.
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  4. REV

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    Turbo not 6 numbers separate in a block...1,2,3,4,5,6.....2 streets
     
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    Just run this quick 31-36 slept for 82 spins........is the guy that bets when the maths say its due better off than the guy that bets this lane as he walk threw the door?.......i know i wouldn't like to have been betting on them. at spin 1
     
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    My point is the odds of any number are not 35-1----more like 500-1.....red and black isnt even...so on and so on.........
     

  8. REV

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    Systems loose.......sorry!
     
  9. mr j

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    I've always said this and I stand by it...lets say you are anti-methods, perhaps even an AP (cough) goof.

    You sit down and the guy sitting next to you (with paper/pen in hand), a well trusted man says, that damn 25 26 27 street has not hit in 130 spins, the dealer confirms !!! Any person, ANY PERSON that says they would not throw a few chips on it for a FEW spins is a damn liar, PERIOD.

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  10. TurboGenius

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    But the problem here is (using a lane/line of 6 numbers) - they won't sleep for 90 spins in order to start betting, in your 101,000+ spins it never happened once.
    And even if you drop it down - say "once a line doesn't appear for 64 spins - then start your 25 step progression on it" Won't work, You're max is 89 spins but this could end up being 90 and a progression bust, not to mention waiting for a line to not show up for 64 spins means you'll almost never have a chance to bet since the table will never qualify.
    (it will, but when ? once every 20,000 spins ? - to win a small amount with a progression ?)

    I would say - that for each spin people cover that street - they aren't winning on the other streets that actually have been showing up above average to make up for the one street that hasn't been showing up. There is probably a street or two that is hitting at a nice rate since the 25-26-27 isn't. So they probably made a nice profit.
    For the record - I would throw some chips on your street as well, but not as a smart way to play - just to get lucky perhaps and it might show up.
    Reminds me of the #20 that didn't show up forever and people were betting it on each spin with little stacks and when the one guy who was betting the most finally gave up and started to walk off, the 20 hit. Lol. It was classic.
    The casinos love when people think something is due and start putting bets on it.
    But like I said, I'd play it too - but for the fun of maybe winning when it shows up - not because it's a good idea.
     
  11. mr j

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    What I'll do.....if a person has been betting on a split or street for a LONG TIME (and wasted hundreds of dollars) finally gives up and quits, I'll bet it for a while and yes, I laugh my a** off when I get the hit. I won't waste a ton but I'll give it a shot. Its not about the money as much as it is....ha ha ha and thanks! (lol).

    There was this guy that bet on the 0/2 split for HOURS!!! It never hit and he quit. I bet on it somewhat, maybe $400 worth, still did not hit, I gave up and went back to my main method. It did not hit for like seven hours, no lie.

    In classic roulette fashion, the next 20 spins had a combo of 0/2 hit six times. Yes, as soon as the first one hit, I jumped on it.

    Ken
     
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    Hi ken ,a long time ago stormer tested if i was correct over millions of spins[AFTER A HIT] It showed a small advantage,if you look at rx every number is heading for a repeat but the only way we can identify is to chart,if you are betting on a repeat sometimes u can measure the frequency and identify a repeat,....thats how i play ...dont use progressions,they are something that kills any system.
     
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    Lmao!
     
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    Dont be mad J that i commented from a thread 1 year ago

    That was funny
     

  15. mr j

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    You are the master at digging RG. Dig and dig until you feel VALIDATED and able to sleep better at night?

    I think the furthest back I have ever quoted was a week, I simply dont have that kind of free time.

    Ken
     
  16. RouletteGhost

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    The truth is i was going through this forum to find if there was anything worth reading

    Theres like 20 pages of sparky. And like 3 real threads

    I thought it was funny. Oh well
     
  17. mr j

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    Do I care? No, but I notice trends (its my business). I noticed at RF over the last couple months, you have ACCIDENTALLY stumbled upon past quotes (1-3 years ago) and only from myself and General.

    Thats not due to boredom.....thats "looking for something". Like I said, its my business to notice these things.

    Ken
     
  18. RouletteGhost

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    Relax J its all in fun
     

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