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Discussion in 'Baccarat Forum' started by Lungyeh, Sep 13, 2020.

  1. Nathan Detroit

    Nathan Detroit Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Due to the higher table limits and and preference for larger denominations a consideration for Lungyeh 2-1-2 HPB series should be considered.


    Details had been discussed in this topic.






    Play at your own risk.







    ND
     
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  2. Nathan Detroit

    Nathan Detroit Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Lungyeh ,


    Sir what are you reasons for not analyzing past decisions ? I personally concur with your statement you have made a few posts back but some who might have missed it might be interested in more details.



    Thank You.


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  3. Lungyeh

    Lungyeh Well-Known Member

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    Hi Nathan, firstly, baccarat is but a diversion for me at this point in time. I have a few other business interests which takes up a fair bit of my time. So, I dont record in the sense of keeping the score cards and analysing the past games, the past hands and what might have been. As if one is not stressed enough after a session!

    I cannot understand, for the life of me, some who can keep the scorecards, take photos of games even and months after, can relive the moments and explain in explicit details why they did what they did and the results. I admire them but with skepticism.

    I play for the bottomline result, win or lose. Not for the analysis of historical events at the table. And there are so many games played, I will be lying to a smaller or greater extent if I choose to rehash in detail the games played, the emotions and the decision making process.

    Yes, we all learn from the past. Agreed. Learn the major lessons. The raison de’tre. How you dared to win when on a Hot Phase and how you were scared to lose on a Shar Chi (Losing) Phase that resulted in you walking out a winner. Or the reasons why one lost. Analysing individual decisions is, shall I say, inconsequential to the overall scheme of things.

    Hope that clarifies ND. Peace to all.
     
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  4. Ordinary_people

    Ordinary_people Active Member

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    Sorry if i am mistake interpret your comment. You said not analysing the past games.

    But from i read in this thread you're a trend follower.

    So i think if you look the main road like BBppBBpp

    I think you will bet B.

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  5. Nathan Detroit

    Nathan Detroit Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Lungyeh,


    Sir , my thanks for your detailed reply. In this game "HERE is looking at you " not the past .


    Best wishes and stay safe.


    ND
     
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  6. gizmotron

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    The only game or trend that matters is the trend that is happening right now.

    What happened and what you decided to do two weeks ago has nothing to do with the current conditions of coincidence. You must become skilled at dealing with trends and patterns as they occur. Rules you might have used a month ago are not guaranteed to work today. That is why you must become skilled at what is happening right now. Randomness does not follow favorable conditions at all times if you are stuck with rules that only favor one condition. It is you that must adjust to what is happening. There are three primary conditions. Your bet selections will do very good, flat, or very badly. If you think what you did a month ago during a win streak will guide you as to the choices to make now you will one day learn that you can't use the observations of a past condition to expect them to work for the current conditions. It might work for you but it also might not. You would be better off having rules that fit the conditions.

    I can see learning how to make up those rules from past experiences. "Those Who Do Not Learn History Are Doomed To Repeat It." But I would never expect it to work. You can only see the conditions that are there. The conditions that are there now were not there from a month ago. Those were different conditions. Everything changes. Sometimes it changes in the blink of an eye.
     
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  7. Lungyeh

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    Sorry if I wasnt clear. When I am playing the game, yes I analyse and yes I am a trend follower. But after a session is done I do not take back any score cards to analyse and reason why I made a particular bet 4 hours ago and how much I bet and why I lost that bet.

    I dont make that kind of detailed record after the fact and I understand some do. I am always amazed how one can spend so much time whilst in the midst of making a live money bet, that they can record the whys and the wherefores. That was what I was trying to say. Thank you for reading
     

  8. Ordinary_people

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    Understood. If that what you mean, me too. For now i just jump in and jump out from table to table.
     
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  9. Ordinary_people

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    I see. I understand now what you mean not related with the past. I agree with you.

    You're welcome. Thanks too for the explanation
     
  10. Nathan Detroit

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    I have posted many times that a trend begins when a bet selection makes the first appearance.


    Then take it from there. with your betting series .




    ND
     
  11. oopsididitagain

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    Each outcome is its own trend. In other words, it's not possible to bet before after any outcome to catch a trend. Time for some better "material" from at least the "founding members". Something not so deluded. Lol.
     
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  12. Lungyeh

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    Each can and will have their opinions about the game. It either makes one a winner or a loser. That’s it. Delusion is in the eyes of the beholder, 2 second orgasmic or otherwise.

    I gave an example of one player who bets for a trend to continue and another who bets that there is no trend (anti trend) but actually both are basing their respective games on deciphering a trend. One day A wins and B loses. On another day A loses and B wins. To me, it was all down to MM. How one capitalises on the Hot Phase and defensive on the Shar Chi or Losing Phase.

    For me, in my own idiosyncratic ways, I look for trends. I particularly like it when the results are a cluster of repeats grouped together. Bbbppppbbpppbbb or something like this. Then the bets are either to continue or break depending on results earlier.

    One reads his own game. Nothing delusional; founder or otherwise. One can come on the forum and posts his ways of playing without achieving orgasm and without the need of name calling.

    We are all here to learn and share. Well, mostly. Those who believe there are many ways to play the game and win. As there are ways to play football. As there are ways to write. Some more civil than others. Some more polite. Some more crass. Takes all kinds.

    Peace and thank you all for interest in the thread and keeping it going.
     
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  13. oopsididitagain

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    I called this "strategy" delusional. As in criticize the work, but, not the author. Look, why not put all this surely fruitless effort into something known to work, say, a crooked game of poker?

    It's like you already know it's impossible, so, this is the reason it seems "tantalizing" to you.
     
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  14. Nathan Detroit

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    According to some New York Wise Guys ( gamblers ) if you see a trend in progress either go with it ,against it , or do nothing .
     

  15. Lungyeh

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    Poker by whatever name called also has its own market. Wanting alone to play may not materialise. In one table the minimum call may be too high for one and too low for another. Just like the bet limits on different baccarat tables.

    I would be pleased to give my opinion once awhile in a poker thread in a poker forum. Last I checked this is a baccarat forum. Be guided accordingly.
     
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    Thank you sir for your valuable input to the forum. I joined the forum looking for ways to become
    Thank you for your continued post. I joined this forum so I could better educate myself on baccarat. I'm trying to become a "player" and just not another "gambler." A lot of the post are total BS when it comes to educating ones self. It reminds me of D and R. If one party like it the other doesn't. In the end everyone loses.

    I was particularly interested in your betting on clusters of repeats. My question sir, is when do you start your betting? Again thanks for your post and continue posting.

    Thanks
    Mark
     
  17. oopsididitagain

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    Okay, carry on. Who cares.
     
  18. Lungyeh

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    I said I like to bet when the results are coming in clusters of repeats. There is no hard and fast rule of when do I start. And when I start, it may be a win or a loss and by my definition if I win and continue to win, then I am in a Hot Phase. If I lose, then I am in a Shar Chi or Losing Phase. Sorry I cannot be more specific but like I said, I really do find that the deciding factor is in the MM.
     
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  19. Lungyeh

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    And it is a correct attitude to not play like a gambler. Cultivate a habit of wining. It can be captivating.
     
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  20. Nathan Detroit

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    What to bet, when to bet, and MM all explained on the size of a 2 x 3.5 inch business card .
     

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