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Misc WizardOfVegas Forum is Dying

Discussion in 'Miscellaneous Gambling Forum' started by LovePotion9, Sep 5, 2015.

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  1. Ozzy

    Ozzy Well-Known Member

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    If half of those guys mentioned, had a spine, especially friends like SOOPOOP, maybe he would wise up. Oh that's right, he doesn't give a damn, he will direct everyone to his junk site instead. The sheeple will then follow all to willingly.
     
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  2. freddy

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    When someone like SOOPOOP gets suspended it's all done behind the scenes... most likely with phone calls. Just a big fake show to generate interest. Does SOOPOOP have to worry about the Martingale? Of course not. That is reserved for those that Weak Wizard doesn't like. Just look at the suspension list to see the heavily biased, uneven enforcement of the vague rules. Heck, even kewlj doesn't get the Martingale...even after his third suspension in 3 months.
     
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  3. freddy

    freddy Well-Known Member

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    Speaking of kewlj...what a story that is. Gets banned, trashes Wizard/Sad Shack all over the place and gets reinstated. They both remain tight lipped about the circumstances. What happened to the transparency? Oh, I see. Transparency as long as it benefits Weak Wizard. Here's a quick timeline.

    Kewlj gets banned in September of 2016. A member asks if there's a chance the ban could be reversed. Weak Wizard replies: "Nope. Will never happen as long as I have anything to do with it. There are two forum members who are dead to me---kewlj and Statman."

    Here are some of kewlj's comments after being banned:

    "Michael Shackleford should be ashamed of what that site has now become."

    "I am embarrassed for Shackleford. I really am."

    "It shows him to be a really small individual stuck in some sort of adolescent stage, unable to grow."

    "Without a doubt signing up at WoV was the worse [sic] decision of my AP career."

    Then kewlj gets reinstated and changes his tune:

    "Thanks to Mike for inviting me back."

    Then two days ago:

    "Michael Shackleford is highly respected and known as a gambling math expert."

    Life is not complete until you get the coveted key to "Mike's house."
     
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  4. Nathan Detroit

    Nathan Detroit Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    I always read the Wizard of Odds columns in the early days of the Casino Player Magazin in reference to video poker.



    He knew what he was talking about when it pertains to VP.
     
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  5. Karen Nathan

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    I mentioned this before. Kewlj turns on boards he was loyal to if a board he was banned from welcomes him back. Shortly after being reinstated on WOV, Kewlj turned on VCT. Kewlj went from talking shit about WOV on VCT to talking shit about VCT on VCT AND WOV after WOV reinstatement.
     
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  6. redietz

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    For the record, if you read between the lines (not too hard to do) of my last two posts at WoV, it's pretty clear those are my final two posts. So no, not begging, my friend. Just making some comments that had to be made.

    Have a good one.
     
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  7. KewlJ

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    Let's clear up this "loyal to a forum or board" thing. What kind of nonsense is that. I am not loyal to any board. I do my own thing. I share some of my experiences as a professional player. I will call out members that are full of shit and misleading other players like a Rob Singer and MDawg. It really isn't personal with me, although Singer made it personal with attacks on my late spouse. For me, it is just about Math and reality.

    Freddy, I never stopped admiring Shackleford's math abilities. Even when I didn't think much of the way Mike ran his forum or treated me, his math expertise was never in question and if you go back and read, I still recognized his gambling math expertise. If I don't happen to like the guy at the moment, that changes the fact that he is a gambling math expert? If I subscribed to that, I would be the one not dealing in reality.

    I still don't think I was treated fairly what is it now, 5 years ago. I still am not thrilled with some of the things Mike does on his forum and don't agree with the way he runs his forum. But that is not my call. It is his forum.

    Unfortunately, I was unable to find a forum that i felt more comfortable with. Not going to go into the issues with this place, you know them and if you are comfortable, that's your decision. Some things were a deal breaker for me. At VCT, the attacks that are allowed in the name of free speech is just too much. It is supposed to be a gambling related forum. All the racist, homophonic attacks. Attacks on family members and deceased spouses...just too much. WAY too much. I tried for several years to persuade Dan Druff to take back some control, from a complete asshole, troll and scammer like Rob Singer and when I couldn't convince him to take back control, I opted for the return to WoV, which became available to me, due to some other members mediating. There are still things about WoV that I dislike a great deal but that is my best option right now. And I am still welcome to post at VCT when I can stomach it. I am sorry if you don't approve, freddie.

    Personal advice to you freddie: There comes a time when it is time to just let go and move on. Just hanging on to hate and anger isn't good for anyone. It chews you up inside.
     
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  8. freddy

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    My bad for lumping you in with the hardcore cultists, redeitz. I was referring to the SOOPOOS, the terapineds and that ilk.

    Many have made that 'last post' declaration and it almost always comes back and bites them. No harm no foul if you do return. I made the same claim regarding WoV and have stuck to it thus far although I do log in to check my messages from time to time.

    Now to your last suspension. You did nothing wrong...nothing that remotely comes close to Weak Wizard's definition of trolling... which depends on which way the wind blows. It's his favorite go to when the man of integrity feels threatened because someone just might know more on a subject than he does. You see, Mr Mensa can't deal with that so he resorts to a very childish trolling charge. Imagine the money this guy has lost betting on sports over the years.

    Speaking of trolling, you really took them to school on the definition of that word as you demonstrated that it didn't apply in your case. Caught them with their pants down..if you will. And you're right...silence from the little man and not one comment from his followers. They don't dare.

    *Disclaimer: Wizard/Sad Shack's pants may or may not have already been down as he sat behind his computer staring at Angela...solution in hand.
     
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  9. oopsididitagain

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    These boards are the greatest thing for seeing what people are all about. With long-term leaders Alan, and, then, Red gone from VCT - they were practically begging for them to come back - they have no one to prey on, but themselves. The stuff of bona fide morons with mid-life crises. I feel sorry for accountinquestion. Hopefully, he, too, will move on, soon.
     
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  10. freddy

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    If you'll notice...a similar situation developed with coachbelly.

    Coachbelly is having a conversation on WoV.

    Dunce Dear butts in, which he has every right to do, but his only intention was to bait coachbelly.

    Coachbelly easily gets the best of Dunce Dear.

    A flustered Dunce Dear, not able to keep up, suspends coach.

    Big man now that Dunce Dear. Now that he no longer has to embarrass himself by cowering to the missing...but not missed...Bitch Bum Blabs.
     
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  11. MDawg

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    freddy don't stop now...you nailed KewlJ on the head. He's everything, and more that you said:

    1. Weak physically - has a slew of health problems including with his heart, even at his young age of late twenties.

    2. Weak mentally - guy regularly comes in both to WOV in general, and to my Adventures of MDawg thread at WOV, and says that he is "done" - will never post again, and yet like a whore who can't leave the business, is always back. Wishy washy types like this can't make a decision and adhere to it.

    3. Loser at the casino - ended up in the red at blackjack this year, and gave up.*
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    No longer playing. I expect that since he can't even make up his mind about whether to stay or go at WOV and keeps publicly making a fool of himself with his drama queen final exits (only to come back for more abuse), he's equally indecisive at the BJ tables unable to push the big bets out there when he has to.

    * Actually guess what - after he posted that he was done and would no longer be playing, Surprise! what did the wishy washy type do? go back in for more play, and THEN quit again...declaring that this time it was for good. :D

    Given this background, we know this is an unhealthy, indecisive, self-admitted failure. And yet he has the gal to question MDawg? All he and anyone else has against MDawg is Speculation that MDawg isn't the winner he states he is - this notwithstanding that MDawg regularly posts all sorts of visual evidence to back up his claims, along with a consistent story that has never been contradicted. When you tell the truth, you don't have to remember anything.
    The impaired judgment of a weak indecisive loser is not worth the thousand word essays he writes on the subject.

    Don't let up on this loser freddy, dig in your claws, and take him down.
     
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  12. jbs

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    You don't post proof of jack shit, you turd!
     
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  13. MDawg

    MDawg Well-Known Member

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    I post everything, from casino to stock trades, all actual.

    What we do know anyway, is that like moths to a flame losers like jbs spend their uninspired lives commenting on the real lives, the Adventures, of winners like MDawg. Keep it coming! obsession is a good thing, when it's directed towards me! They just drive 'em to me.
     
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  14. oopsididitagain

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    Then it's all bogus, which one has to at least suspect, from the start.
     
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  15. Ozzy

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    I'm not a fan of NotnowDear, but he's just giving Belly, a taste of his own medicine. Nobody baits people, the way he does, he's in a league of his own. It's obvious, he'll do and say anything, to be the ultimate contrarian.
     
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  16. oopsididitagain

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    Ozzy, the fan/non-fan. Who cares?

    It's not what others do, but, what you do.
     
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  17. KewlJ

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    If I had any doubts before I no longer do. This post is 100% directly from the troll playbook. When someone challenges a troll, based on something like the math not working, the troll strikes back with personal attacks and name-calling, usually at about a thirds grade level. Someone challenges your claims based on math and you respond by attacking their health. So Rob Singer of you.

    And then there is the lie, that I had a losing year and have quit. Neither is true. And that wouldn't be a big deal if it was an honest mistake, based on my post from September when I was still in the red. But I corrected you that I ended my black for the year in the black. A bad year but still in the black, and yet you choose to repeat a lie. Again right from the troll playbook.

    So how am I in my late 20's when I have been playing blackjack professionally and posting about it for 17 years? Based on your claims that defy math, I realize you dismiss math, but come on, I would have had to have started playing when I was 12.

    Has anyone ever told you that talking about yourself in the third person is a major sign of mental illness. A sign you are detached from reality. And that's what the whole adventures of Huckleberry MDawg is, a guy completely detached from reality, living in an alternate reality, crying out for attention. "look at me, look at me" And it must be true because I have some cash and chips I can throw on the bed and take pictures of.

    Here is another very common similarity among these guys. They always thing they are smarter than everyone else. They never are, not in the real world anyway. Who knows how it works in their make believe, alternative world.

    So Wizard said he doesn't believe you and challenged you to show him your play. You immediately said you were busy for the next few months. But yet, you spend most of your day, posting on half dozen forums. What's up with that. If you have nothing to hide, just let Wizard watch you play and claim victory.
     
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  18. Ozzy

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    There are plenty of eccentric people on these forums. Many who are interesting and knowledgable in there own ways. Everyone that I can think of at the moment, has some value in one way or another. Even bullshit braggart artists like Dog, who entertain, a very minute percentage of people. You on the other hand, are worthless weirdo, who makes little to know sense, in over 90% of your posts. Your a irrelevant pathetic troll, who serves ZERO purpose.
     
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    Folks know we don't like to interject. In fact, it's been years since we jumped into a thread outside of the Feedback section. However, this comment has been brought to our attention and it cannot be left unanswered. Does anyone actually know what your problem with this site is?

    From everything we witnessed, what others are saying about you is supported by your actions on this very site. As soon as you had your direct encounter with Norm Wattenberger here -- an encounter that you very well know could only have happened on this site and nowhere else -- your participation dropped off a cliff. Case-in-point:
    • Date things came to a head between you and Norm here: June 2017
    • Date of your last thread created here: June 2017

    We don't believe this is a coincidence. Once you got from this site what you wanted, you promptly left.

    There is nothing wrong with that as you are free to come and go as you please. However, please do not then insinuate there are "issues" with this site so colossal that other members are supposedly aware of them (even though you don't mention them), when this is the only gambling forum that is independent, comprehensive, and uncensored with a set of reasonable rules and moderation that does not allow members to be disrespected in order to ensure that productive discussions can occur. In fact, we're one of the very few gambling forums that is fully member-centric with a dedicated Feedback section precisely so that we can iron out any issues and ensure we provide our members the type of experience they want.

    Ask MDawg how we modified the site so that his images displayed to this liking. Ask TurboGenius how we implemented a locally-stored solution so that he could continue to use this site on his old Windows XP machine. Those are just a few examples of how we go well out of our way for our members in order to improve their experience here.

    Perhaps you haven't actually used our site in years and are stuck in the past and don't realize how far we have progressed since 2017 with new team members, a balanced moderation approach that took us years to fine-tune after a rocky start, virtually zero interjections from us, and more.

    If you have an actual issue with our site, then please post about it in our Feedback section and we'll take care of it. We're one of the very few gambling communities that actually listens to its members and provides them what they ask for. We believe that's a big factor that explains how we earned the #1 position when searching "gambling forum" in a highly-crowded market despite still being one of the newest ones.

    A lot of folks have predicted our demise over the years, but we are still here and continuing to grow. Our 5 Year Anniversary is coming up and we have a significant and unique surprise for our members that we're currently working hard on implementing and that we believe everyone -- particularly the old-timers -- will find captivating. We cannot say more.

    So consider giving us another shot. You might be pleasantly surprised.
     
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  20. MDawg

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    All anyone, including KewlJ, has to say against MDawg is based on speculation, which I contend is fueled by jealousy. However, in his case, I posted specific reasons supported by examples of why KewlJ is indecisive and unhealthy, a loser at blackjack by his own admission, and therefore not to be taken seriously.
     
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