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Roulette About Evolution roulette

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by BlueAngel, Jan 9, 2021.

  1. BlueAngel

    BlueAngel Active Member

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    I have tested a betting selection for single number, without progressions and limits, simply flat and non stop 1 number betting.
    In my testing I've found an accuracy of 7 hits in 36 bets, furthermore 38 hits in 718 bets (1 per 18.9)

    So do you think this could be just a coincidence?
    What chances I had to pick a number, any number, which would hit 7 times with 36 bets and 38 times with 718 bets?
    Even if I knew beforehand which number would be top on hits that number could had less hits than my accurate predictions.

    On Evolution roulette I have used the exact same betting method, plain and simple and my statistics were something like 7 hits in 300 bets, therefore my question is: what is going on with Evolution?
    Why after such outstanding results on my testing I had below average performance on all Evolution roulettes (tried 3 different).
    For clarification the results all were from live dealers and B&M casinos.

    Could you please provide a reasonable explanation?
     
  2. Sharptracker

    Sharptracker Well-Known Member

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    Of course it is...

    Fluctuation... You'll notice those winning sessions and the fact that it lasts will fool you...

    If you'd run tons of 718 bets patterns, randomness will easily produce one as you fell onto... but of course the idea of being THE ONE that discovered what every sheeps are looking for is far more seductive.

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  3. BlueAngel

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    I don't have time for that, besides the most probable is to find just 1 out of 37, you might say that 2, 3, even 4 is a fluctuation, but not for 7 out of 36 and certainly 38 accurate predictions in 718 is neither fluctuation, nor accidental when the average is 20 in 740, that's 18 more wins with 22 less bets.

    Have you any idea what standard deviation is, I assume you are clueless because if you did you would understood that SDs don't work this way and certainly not when the selected number is varied and NOT always the same number, this has nothing to do with SDs and biased wheels.

    Last but not least, I would like the online players to be careful with Evolution gaming, there were others before who raised their concerns about Evolution gaming fairness like I'm doing now.
    Just to remove any glimmer of doubt, if it was something like fluctuations (luck) then I wouldn't be able to continue doing it with money but not at Evolution gaming.

    Just think about it seriously.
     
  4. Median Joe

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    38 hits in 718 spins is 4.3 standard deviations above the mean, so that's quite rare. 7 hits in 36 spins is too small a sample to mean anything, and even 718 spins isn't enough. You need to test more. If you make it to a few thousand spins and stay at that SD you might have something.
     
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  5. Sharptracker

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    But you have time to test blindly 718 spins... instead to wonder why ur system should make finally better than expectation...

    Even if you'd observe a stronger deviation with x system it wouldnt mean anything... It just happened and won't predict how or when randomness will act.

    Roulette & conspirationist... a nice cocktail
    Truth is variance is able to eat all your bankroll easily...

    2021... nothing new under the sun
     
  6. Median Joe

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    Ok... So in your opinion what should the deviation be, and over how many spins, for it to mean something? You're saying that a deviation could be 10 deviations, 20 deviations, and still it would be meaningless? That's nonsense.
     
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  7. BlueAngel

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    718 is not a tone of results, it's just about 4 hours on a Sunday afternoon.

    Let me put it another way, let's say you or anybody like you selects randomly 1 number for 700 or so continuous bets, the most probable results will be to have something a bit below average or at thereabouts, small deviation from the average expectation, this means that for 740 bets average is 20 so minus or plus one third of that is 6 to 7 hits more or less, in other words from 13 up to 27.
    Yes, with 27 hits I wouldn't never claim that I had something, but 38 is almost the double of 20...allow me to know better what I have.
     

  8. Sharptracker

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    The shorter you bet, the longer fluctuations can be even with stronger sd... And no doubt that on that kind of sample it is really meaningless...

    You just forget that you're playing since a while and the more longer you re testing/observing spins you'll let time to randomness to express in his craziest ways. At a certain time, after a certain number of spins, it becomes normal to observe crazy stuffs.

    But people located at the very right side of the gauss curve will usually tend to think they gor something and will refuse to accept that they're just surfing on a temporary positive rush. If they're located in the mean or worst at the very left side, they ll just say the system is crap without noticing that all systems are actually equivalent...

    Like my uncle used to say: " The deal is to play the right pattern" :)
     
  9. Median Joe

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    You avoided answering my question, I assume because you don't know the answer. ;)
     
  10. Sharptracker

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    i m not avoiding... If betting 1 number only and flat bet, then it would take you 250K spins to know if you got something (of course in most cases the system will fail far before)... much more if you're using a progression.
    This is in the case u re talking about a system... We're not talking about bias play in here.
     
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  11. BlueAngel

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    Today I had for my first time my number hitting 4 times in a row!!!!:woot:
    Oftenlly I'm winning the very first bet of my single number and finish the session just like that!
    I have tried many roulettes from Evolution gaming with varying degrees of success, as far as I know Evolution Gaming is reliable games' provider and pays within hours!
     
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    Evolution is NOT a casino, so they don't pay - the casino pays...
     
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  13. Rinad

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    I have seen so many answers to this question about fairness and I am sorry to said but many people get misguided .
    when a casino forces a ball to land in a precise pocket it is controling the ball of roulette.
    why would they do that ? if a player is winning back to back against RTP (money returned to player) or other resons as well they can do that.
    the casino can use Electromagnatic plates with sinusoidal wave vibrations to attract a ball to a particular number in the wheel.
    EM waves with sinusoidal wave vibrations are used so a ball wont stick to the number suspisciously like a magnet can and will bust their business open in public.
    science is very advanced and this is just a law of phisics used.
    a casino licence organisation provide the certification to casinos on the basis of randomness. but the difference is in that definition that on a daily basis or weekly basis the whole data of numbers are required to be sent to licence companies to verify the randomness of that table.
    the catch is they dont check the randomness of each spin, instead they chech the randomness in thousands of spins which obviously later can be corrected by the casino after beating a player they want to beat.
    the RTP or parameter track how much have you won or lost. the more you play the more difficult it will be for you to win because, with time, the older your account gets, the lesser the RTP goes. (money returned to player)
    the platform software is designed with priority settings of all available players. if you are a priority to be cheated it will leave everything behind and will make you lose first, and then it will go to the next person based on their RTP %.
    Good luck to everyone using automated roulette .

    Rinad
     
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  14. BlueAngel

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    Online players should be aware of all these!
     


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