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Baccarat Betting Flat: Quest for an Holy Grail?

Discussion in 'Baccarat Forum' started by soxfan, Feb 13, 2021.

  1. Punkcity

    Punkcity Well-Known Member

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  2. Jimske

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    In the meantime how about some teasers like how many bets per shoe, shoe win %, Sd and calculated risk of ruin?

    Certainly a completely mechanical method far better than any guessing, trend MM strategy
     
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  3. soxfan

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    Not doing as much testings as I was previous, only about 32 shoe per day as that fills one half page of my note book. buckin up against 6400 tested shoe capturing 8101.5 units nets profits, hey hey.
     
  4. Jimske

    Jimske Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Testing the same data source when other data sources were known to fail doesn't seem like a blind sample.
     
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  5. soxfan

    soxfan Well-Known Member

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    Ok more testings in the book and buckin up against 6434 party poker live tested shoe am loookin at total nets profits of +8172.1 units. So average nets profits per shoe of about 1.27 units and most drawdown in the -35 units range, hey hey.
     
  6. Jimske

    Jimske Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    What happens when you add 2000 shoes (zumma and wizard) that produce negative results? That's according to your own testing.

    I don't see the point of continuing testing if you believe the 1.27. If you know the number of wagers you could easily calculate the SD and determine risk of ruin %. That will tell you if you need more testing.
     
  7. Zhang Wei

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    Good job on your profits. Keep testing.
    I have similar average win units per shoe.
    Makes you wonder if you should just play the beginning hands to make the 2 units since the average for playing whole shoes is so low.
    Being able to come back from a drawdown of -35 units is impressive, especially when you are only betting banker.
     

  8. Roubacc

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    Are you guys kidding? You’re looking to make less than 2 units a shoe with draw down of 35 units?
    And how would you expect to recover from a -35 units?
     
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  9. soxfan

    soxfan Well-Known Member

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    The proficient 21 card counter sometime go into deficit of 500-1000 units and they are happy to capture one units profits per shoe of 21 and they have the verify edge, hey hey.
     
  10. Nathan Detroit

    Nathan Detroit Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Where are the BIG winners from Yesteryear? Testing old shoes ?
     
  11. Baccarat man

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    Yes flat betting can work well only on shoes that have long trend's.Shoes that are BPBPBPBBPBPB etc you will lose everything.You HAVE to as a general rule Up your stakes to beat baccarat and make a profit.Shoe selection is key and if the shoe seems to unpredictable DON'T PLAY!!!.
     
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  12. soxfan

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    Nope, you are 100 percents incorrect. The notion that you can predict or read shoes is complete and utter bullshits and nonsenses, hey hey.
     
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  13. Roubacc

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    Up-ing the stakes is not necessary. Yi
    Baccarat is totally different from BJ. In BJ, if they are risking 500-1000 units to win 2 units then they are crazy. In baccarat, you can win much more with less risk.
     
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  14. soxfan

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    Im always say that at the baccarats there are only two sures thing, and cats should base their play on thsoe 2 sures thing, hey hey.
     

  15. Lungyeh

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    What are the 2 sure things father cat? Hey hey
     
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    It's simple. There are winning bets and losing bets.
     
  17. Jimske

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    When are we going to see the details of this flatbed Banker system? You said you tweaked it so I assume you don't simply just bet Banker every hand and expect to win. The tweak must be a some kind of pattern recognition on the player side I would presume, maybe falsely.
     
  18. soxfan

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    Well since you ask I'll tell ya. The first sures thing is that bankers is gonna pop at the 50.7-50.8 percentage, if you bet every hand. But by betting bankers a bit more strategic and selective we can bump up that strikes rate to bit more than 51 percents, and that's why I can capture bets flat profits. The other million percents sures thing is that over time the result you buck up against at the baccarats will conform to expected streaks distributions stat. So 1s 2s 3s 4s gonna pop just over 95 percents and5s+ gonna pop less than 5%. So the shrewd cat gonna wanna base his bets selection o f these sures thing, hey hey.
     
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  19. Zhang Wei

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    BPBPBPBBPBPB is a long trend :meh:
     
  20. Craps

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    Wait a minute. What is the most $$$ bet on in Baccarat? THE SECOND BANKER BET. Agree? 70% of Baccarat players is bias on B. Everyone is timing B. What makes you different with B? Not a nasty question for sure. Curious and eager to learn from you for sure.
    Funny thing is a lot of people forces the Bank to come and when it finally came, they don't believe and won't bet.
     

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