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Baccarat What is the biggest lie to you in Baccarat?

Discussion in 'Baccarat Forum' started by Zhang Wei, Mar 14, 2021.

  1. Punkcity

    Punkcity Well-Known Member

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    ANYTHING a casino dealer/employee says or posts on a forum in regards to the next bet/ winning method
    Cheers
     
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  2. Zhang Wei

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    Ok, next one from me:

    Fibonacci
     
  3. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    That may sound like it makes sense but it doesn't to me.

    If you bet on a trend to hit at least once more then you end up with +1 on a winner on that first try attempt. But if you use leverage it changes everything. If your first bet is 3 times the base value and your second bet is 2 times the base value then you have leveraged +1 on a loss on the second bet of the trend. If you leverage that second win at 1 times the base value then you are still up +4 on the third attempt bet that loses. Flat betting is very difficult. For each lost bet you must win another just to break even. But leverage allows you to lose bets and still work forward in the positive.

    You might think this is all substitution but it isn't once you factor in win streaks and losing streaks. Most people just factor in wishful thinking and the hope that they will recover their losses by a change in their luck. But then they never actually use luck to their advantage.
     
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  4. Roubacc

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    it takes several years to be a long term winner with strictly flat betting. This one is not a lie.
     
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  5. Craps

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    Stop talking about winning the 1st hand. All problems solved if that is the case.
     
  6. Craps

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    Years of playing do not and will not change bet accuracy.The gods of Baccarat gives you a break for having time?
     
  7. Craps

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    Using flat betting to find inspiration to bet aggressively when shoe runs your way is the trait of an advantage player. Flat betting only gives you more stretch for your Bankroll but Not More Bang for your Buck.
     

  8. soxfan

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    The biggest baccarats lie is this, hey hey:

    "If you see a streak you either bet with it or don't bet at all!"
     
  9. gizmotron

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    Well guess what? You finally figured it out.

    You can watch for the effectiveness of the first try bets. They come in swarms or small packages of three main types. They swarm together real good and are very effective. They break even in swarms for a while and cause a balanced result. And last they swarm in a bunch of combined lost attempts. Now all you have to do is train yourself to see these changes and results. If you refuse to do that then you are a swarm of a loser. Gamble on grasshopper.
     
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  10. Craps

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    "Now all you have to do is train yourself to see these changes and results."
    If all these changes and results can come in 3 main types, how would you choose what to bet?
    Give me an example to support your claim
     
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    People thinking that winning can occur being conditioned by the past are due for failure!
     
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  12. Craps

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    Why due for failure? Past hands helps you in making decisions for future hands and that is all it does. Results are not guaranteed. In a game of chance, nothing is guaranteed. Don't for once think winning is hard. Winning and Losing are both almost equal. Need to win over yourself first. Knowing what is important is the key.
     
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    Another big baccarats lie is one what I subscribe to for many years and that is ya can't feed the bulldog bettin flat. In truth you can feed the bulldog very well with flats bet, hey hey.
     
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    NEGATIVE MARTINGALE will feed the bulldog.

    The truth is flat betting may feed the bulldog. But the greater truth is VARIABLE BETTING will feed the bulldog and also my Rhodesian Ridgeback.

    Variable betting as defined by me, will be to push with limited positive Martingale when winning and reduce bet size when in a losing phase.
     

  15. Craps

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    Going All In one hand works too. Just ask the Vietnamese Baccarat Players.
     
  16. Punkcity

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    Make sure you ask today because he’s not here next week. Cheers
     
  17. Nathan Detroit

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    Reality has it that Baccarat is a game of luck whereas Video poker Class 3 is a game of skill.



    That aint no lie . That is experience .



    ND
     
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  18. Junket King

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    Biggest LIE in Baccarat, (great topic) not sure heard so many, but without too much thought, for me it would have to be Sam Redman, a poster back on GamblersGlen, he's used many user ID's since then, an intelligent and articulate poster who perpetrated too many bullshit myths, that gullible people lapped up, including myself. Insidious and dangerous believing what he posted, a successful player, owned a yacht in Galveston Bay, place him in the same bracket as Johnny Millionaire.

    And I also particularly like the comment in this thread, "anything a casino tells you". 100%
     
  19. gizmotron

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    I wrote an entire thesis here at this forum. Your answers are here in almost all my posts.

    The short answer is to bet small when the phase that is against you is powerful. Bet big only when the phase is in your favor. You will find it in the Roulette section.
     
  20. Jimske

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    Biggest LIE. Can't win more hands than lose by betting the TREND.
     
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