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TurboGenius More on 6-streets / repeaters

Discussion in 'TurboGenius's Forum' started by TurboGenius, Jul 25, 2020.

  1. Denzie

    Denzie Active Member

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    Happy to read you're winning. Im still playing my way also with great results :)
     
  2. Denzie

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    Hmmm I missed this post :banghead: . My first thoughts would be to not bet the first 7 spins and work with the knowledge we have about averages....meaning we kinda know when on average a 2x or 3x should come....this cuts out some spins/bets. Also i wouldnt go for a WWW more like 2 to 4hits and done(curve fitting lol )....reset ....Anyway just my first thoughts
     
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  3. Jono1167

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    Great to hear Denzie. Still plenty of work to do here. I need to analyze the data and then see if flat betting is an option. I want to see if I can hold that win/loss ratio steady or whether it will return to match Turbo's results. All good anyway. Cheers :)
     
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  4. TurboGenius

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    This might help everyone out, it's just a way of charting the data that shows results you can use when planning
    where and how to bet (and when not to bet, and what not to bet on).
    It's self explanatory - each dozen is recorded on it's own, once a street wins I count which win it is 1,2 or 3
    and then how many played streets were in that winning dozen (results).
    It clearly shows when and where the advantage is and what to avoid.
    Cheers.

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  5. Platton

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    Hi Turbo!
    Can you please explain this charting data in more detail? What does the left chart mean? Run - it`s mean one spin or some spins to a certain point? Can you say more details about this, please?
    Thanks!
     
  6. Quos

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    Hi turbo!!!
    Could you explain in detail what mean each date in the image?

    Thaks so much!!!!
     
  7. Gigi666

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    Hey @Jono1167 , good result. I was watching your account for a while, cant remember now since you had few resets before that run, did you settle on playing streets or the waiting for 3rd repeat and playing that number?
     
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  8. Gigi666

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    So if I understand correctly:

    Run - its how you described the single mini session where you try to hit a street repeat in each dozen.
    Result (first, second, third) - means first street repeating in any dozen and stats showing how many streets you were playing when that win happened.

    Based on that I would play to get first and 2nd win, aiming to hit first one with 2 streets, so as soon as one dozen gets to 3 I would drop it (just monitor/track) and keep betting those dozens that still have 1-2 streets to play. Once First win in a dozen happens I play for the 2nd win still assuming remaining dozens have 2-3 streets to play if 4 would be required scrap that dozen and just track it.

    Here was a sample short file I played that way. (no progression)

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  9. Gigi666

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    OF course the above playthrough was just a lucky coincidence tried other files no real steady growth, so surely this is not the way to go.
     
  10. Quos

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    Hi Gigi!!
    Can you give a detailed example of how you have played it?

    In the turbo graph, I understand that the second column, for example, refers to the first dozen to appear and the number (from 1 to 4) indicates the number of streets appeared before the repetition of one of the 4 streets of that dozen. (but it may be that many spins will pass from when the first street of this dozen appears until one of the streets that appears within this dozen is repeated).

    The third column refers to the second dozen to appear, and the 4th column refers to the 3rd dozen to appear.

    Thanks in advance!!
     
  11. Gigi666

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    I won't be going into detailed playthrough as it does not work that way, as mentioned it was just lucky few spins. Unless I am wrong the columns in Turbo's graph mean what I said above.
     
  12. Jono1167

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    Thanks Turbo. I'll be dissecting this information thoroughly over the next couple of days. Thanks for sharing.
     
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  13. Platton

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    I read it again to understand, and I think he explained it.
    So, as I understand it, it tells us that run is kind of a session. Where shown in the results of the dozen in which the streets were. Or rather, as he said, how many streets were played (thats mean appeared). I.e. in 1 run in 1 result (dozen) is 2 - which means that before the street repeated there, only 2 streets appeared in this dozen. In the second and third dozen are 4. This means that before any street repeated in those dozens, all the streets appeared there. If you look at spins that are very important, as far as I remember, when I tested this system, then for the first run we got 2 spins for first dozen and 1 spin for repeat in this dozen. 4 spins for 2 dozen (until a replay appeared) and 1 spin when this replay appeared. The same for 3 dozen - 5 rotations. Total for the first run was 13 spins. For the second run - 2 + 1 + 4 and + 3 spins for each repeat in each dozen, totaling 10 spins. For 3 runs 2 + 2 + 2 and + 3 on repeats - 9 spins, etc.
    For the right chart, we see dozens and streets. Here I think just show what and how many streets fell in every dozen for all these runs. Because we have 27 runs and we see that in every dozen, if you add up the streets, there will also be 27. So this is just a review of which streets fell on these 27 runs. But how to use this is not yet clear.
    I remember when it took a long time to test this system, but so I did not have the strength and patience to test it. And I returned to racing, which was also unsuccessful. I remember in this system I tested so much, except perhaps the most important thing, but the understanding was that in the original explanation that Turbo gave, everything was in the distances between the repeats of the streets. And for me, it was not a success. Although then there were thoughts, in some way to test something like what Turbo is showing now. Something related to the law 2/3 and based on large spins... But there was not enough strength, or rather understanding that it was necessary to test.
    I mean, maybe we'll be united by those who stay here and do something worthwhile so that you can already earn. Because those who found - there are many of them. And understandably they won't say anything. I feel like I'm gonna die soon, and I can't get to the truth. I can say, I devoted my whole life, and it's a shame that I never got to the end. And now there is no longer so much strength and time to do something. However, it is my contribution that I have been able to do. Then we'll see.
     
  14. Denzie

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    Impressive :finger:
     
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  15. Gigi666

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    Hey Platoon,
    No I think its like i described, Result is NOT a Dozen. Look at the results/statistics and run few session, you will not get 85% of hits in one dozen within 1-2 street repeats, so it must be that Result first is the first WIN, (remember Turbos describing originally WWL, WWW etc.)
    I still can't see how this can be exploited due to the spins in between, since you might get the below:

    1 bet on street 1
    4 bet on street 1,2 (-1)
    13 bet on street 1,2,5 (-3)
    16 bet on streets 1,2,5,6 (-7)
    25 bet on streets 1,2,5,6,9 (-11) (at that point even if you win on next spin you are down, and if you get 9 as next number you already have 3 streets in 1st Dozen, so in theory you should stop betting that dozen considering Turbo's stats)

    And then of course if you are trying to catch other dozens this can generate quite a large drawdown going flat (dont think progression can help here), so as usual while the stats look good its hard for me to find a practical application of it.
     
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    :hilarious::hilarious::hilarious: LoL You are write! :hilarious::hilarious::hilarious::hilarious::hilarious: Then I give up :hilarious: Because
    Yes! Then we come again to the same thing - to the distance between the winning streets, which are not winning. Yes, there are more wins, but as I wrote in the fall, most wins are negative wins. So these wins do not bring winnings, but on the contrary take away the bankroll. I'm not saying it's bullshit, but there's too much to understand how to do it, and it's too much for me. I don't know how jono did something there, and we will not know, but I probably won't get here anymore. At least one of me here is hard to understand how to use it and what to test. So it's easier to get back to the cold and hot numbers for me. There's at least something clear...
     
  17. Anunnaki

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    The analysis of this statistical charting is quite interesting, Turbo. Obviously, this ‘6-Streets/Repeater’ targeting method is designed to capture the first repeating Street within each Dozen grouping, targeting a maximum of two (2) Streets within each Dozen. In your original posting that began this thread on 07/25/2020, the method was presented as targeting the first two Streets that showed within each Dozen, with a Win (“W”) or Loss (“L”) being recorded for each Dozen, as follows:
    However, this chart gathering the statistics of how many Streets have shown within each of the first, second, and third Dozen when that initial repeating Street appeared is fascinating. I believe that this should be interpreted as an evolution or improvement to the original targeting method of just the first two Streets that showed within each Dozen.

    Based upon the data shown in this chart, it would seem that for the second and third Dozens that it would be prudent to target up to three (3) Streets within each Dozen – still no more than a total of six (6) Streets overall – in order to maximize targeting efficiency. Or am I misinterpreting this??
     
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  18. Platton

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    Again. Something I never understood, what is the result? More precisely, what are the numbers under the result? In the end, I thought it was the streets that were the first to win. But at the very bottom "totals" - why does he then add them up? Then it's not clear again what is result?
     
  19. BETJACK

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    Runs is ...
    There are 3 dozen sections, each has 4 streets.
    all 3 dozen sections
    have resulted with a repetitive street.

    the "result" columns are the first dozen that "has" a repeating street,
    the second dozen that "has" a repetitive street
    the third dozen that "has" a repetitive street

    the dozens are in the order of appearance of the recurring streets in the dozen!!!
    the first repetition of a street in a dozen 3 we record it in the first column of the info in the results

    the numbers from one, two, three, four are the number of streets that were needed to get the repeating street.

    some dozens needed only ONE street and it was repeated.
    another needed two streets ;
    three, and the worst case four street to get a repeat street.

    the "Total" is the sum of the bet streets.

    this is how i read the info

    Thanks TurboG :) :) :)

    p.s. English is not my first language hope the grammar is ok.
     
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  20. Gigi666

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    Yes @BETJACK thats exactly how I wrote it but I guess yours is maybe more clearer for those who did not understand my short description :) It still does not change the fact its hard to find a profitable solution that would not require massive bankroll and progression.
     

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