Baccarat Oscar's grind + baccarat

Jae, thanks my man for all you've laid out there. I do cringe for you some on laying the $ amounts out there. Wish you'd just stick to units as your progress because I'd hate to see you get thwarted or handicapped by people in the know. It's their job to do so. The $ your putting out there in public will get 'in the know'.

 

That is not true i never went to the end but when i did i put the numbers in, go back and read the last part , i made a statement in my thread after P said BS and still went on but never ended the solution, that was a decision i made once i was bashed, the vault was shown now the last part was the numbers that must be put into the proper places, i was the only one to ever install a betting system of structure, it is the only way to beat this game on a regular basis, $2 bettors can grind out $50--$100 every single day

 

using slow neg pro

 

I hear you, and appreciate the concern. I feel pretty safe for the most part and am pretty situationally aware. I’m probably the least paranoid person on our team, but that could also mean I’m the stupidest. Haha.

 

TLF go to the bath room because you are a joke this clown is not what he says he is

 

Let me say what I found. Jae is NOT lying and he does warned of those drawdowns. It all come back to Baccarat players NOT understanding and shall I say DISCOVERING that MM such as Flat Betting, OG, D'Alembert, Labouchere etc. AND any other cluster progressions carry the SAME ODDS. Odds decide win /loss in the long run which means Baccarat is -EV.
But the thing is in Reality 2 people doing the same thing in their lifetime will yield 2 completely different results because everything and every move we made can the complete OPPOSITE. Your Destiny will decide your lifetime results.

Jae is constantly saying this is what is working for him and NOW you can try and see whether it can work for you. I see countless shoes everyday and on paper down a 1000 units is SICK to the stomach and not many people can harbored. And now he is suggesting 2000 units or more?

Imagine now you are down close to a 100 units betting 12 and the shoe comes PPPPBPPPPPBBPPP and BPBPBPPPP. This is where people researching this approach will see quite a few times and this is where THEY GAVE THE DEATH VERDICT.
PREPARE TO LOSE 2000 units for real IS THE ACID TEST TO GO TO THE NEXT LEVEL. Otherwise NOBODY can discover ANYTHING except some NON hard headed folks with longer vision.

Folks down few hundred thousand lifetime will always wonder what if they were to use the money to play a couple of long Martys. Perhaps the result MIGHT be favorable. BOTTOM LINE IS KING FOLKS>

 

Jae was smart enough to start with very little money in case anyone forgot. that in itself is the best decision anyone can make.
if he loses his bank tomorrow he still will be up. riding on the casino's back is the safest way to go I think, and of course no one can predict the future, but even if I can run a business successfully for 2 years making some nice profit, heck why not.
I have seen being in the retail/wholesale business hundreds of small business investing hundreds of thousands of dollars expecting to brake even within the five year rule and lost it all. it is all calculating risk and baccarat is no different. no one will give up a profitable method or should because we just dont know enough about gambling even if thousands claim they know. probably Jae dont really know why he is winning but if it works it works. maybe just the fact that OG always wins the bigger bets may be the "why" it wins.
its all good, and maybe he could go another year,5 years, 15 years ??? then what are we going to said ? the luckiest guy on earth ?
even a Marty can be built the same way, in tiers where you grow it to bigger units , all good in my book.

R.

 

This is my validation that Oscar's Grind will not win in the long run.

If I understand the obfuscation trick Jae is offsetting the beginning with by betting after reaching -20 units. It's just mumbo jumbo when he says instead of winning 1 unit he will win 20 units.

All he has done is change the value of the first bet in the OG cycle. Other experts at this have already concluded that it is a loser and anyone advocating that it works is a scammer. HAHA, It's in the video. We know he's willing to go as deep as 2,000 units. So if the unit value is $10 then that is $20,000. That much to win $10 X 20 for the offset ( fabrication in his head trick) Is it $200 per session, self acclaimed 8 to 10 hour sessions? Have I got the basic session values correct or is it better or worse? Here is a video showing that this will lose.

 

Have you heard the saying. The safest place is the obvious place? On paper with simulation and computer testing NOTHING will work against Baccarat. People don't realized some numbers that we posted like Jae with his -20 Banker only 2000 unit and my 5 Marty Hit & Run winning 8 a day DID NOT COME ON DAY 1. It's through persistent trials and adjustments to come to a number that can work. There is sweat and tears. Can they be improved? Yes, of course. I hope people can appreciate that we post our findings and the rest is up to the seeker.
The problem I have with testing is they use your approach and apply it to all possible situations. HAVE YOU FOUND A METHOD AFTER BEING TESTED BY SIMULATED TESTING PROGRAMS COMES OUT POSITIVE? If you believe the computers, you are better off producing music instead of talking about Baccarat.

 

Craps, there was a multi tiered Marty bet system discussed some time ago called Ching-A-Limg. I think it finally petered out but perhaps you could look at it as it is your area of interest and set parameters that defines the limit. Perhaps a definite bet selection like Jae’s always Banker would then put the whole methodology together that can be replicated without discretion.

 

We are all intelligent beings. To think that one approach works for all situations is NAIVE. All methods can win and lose depending on the outcome of the hands. Methods OR MM is just a magnification of choosing B or P. No one is better than the other.
The long term winner is the one who knows how to apply his method diligently.

 

Thanks for the info but so far what I found out with Marty is not the design BUT the Hit & Run. Gave me any method using 5 Marty, I can make it work but it has to be Hit & Run.

 

Geez Craps. I know you would like your new postulation for validation to change the situation. But many many player's have long since put the curse on Marty's and the OG. You are just advocating for confirmation bias. These progressions have been power tested over millions of hands or spins and millions of trials. Eventually you are going to go bust at $20,000 bankroll limits.

But I don't really care. Someone needs to keep the lights on. Why do you suppose that casinos stop card counters but not progression players? I guess you think that casinos are stupid and have not found out that you can beat them yet? That's the best part of all this. The casinos actually welcome you and know that one day they will have to shut down once your secret is out? So congratulations for publishing it here on the internet.

 

We do what normal mortals do to earn a living. We work hard and struggle and do the occasional charity to help the less fortunate; be they appreciative or not.

We leave the saving the world and proving the casino wrong narratives to those who have all the time in the world in nature’s parks decoding gaming charts as would Van Gogh decode the starry starry nights painting the palettes blue and grey.

Amidst a world where everything can be copied, those that will make it are those that can find the small differences that matter.

 

Let me school you on hit and run. You could also say big bet little bet, or virtual bet /real bet. The art or skill is in being real good at "when."

In RR you will learn that your best reason for placing a bet, be it trends or pattern, or that you just saw ten individuals pound the slot machines, will always run into a swarm of losses, all bet using a delaying tactic. This is known as a losing streak of first try attempts in RR. You will have a swarm of return to bet after running away bets that all lose.

There is no way to avoid this. You don't have a magical "when to bet again" system. But there is one, maybe two, guys that are totally into precognition. Now you might have that. But even they say that at times their powers are very limited. You got those powers?

 

Petty little bitch. My favorite part is the generous use of the word "we." Like "we" millionaires struggle hard and fly in our jets to charity art auctions to benefit the needy. "We" generally expect to make $200,000 per gambling junket. "We" have stacks of $10,000 chips in full trays. Your venture to slum with the common folks is sort of admirable. Stroke stroke stroke.

 

we are all intelligent human beings ??? i dont know my friend, I came to the irrefutable conclusion some time ago that animals are much smarter, but that is for another thread.
you are right about diligence . we can all play the same method hundreds of time and some would always lose. why ?
it is in the details. all get the same recepie but not all succeed !
how stupid can we be thinking it is the method itself ?
so one says open a coffee shop, good business, another says no the software is where its at, and on and on we go in circles for ever !
it is not the "what"
it is the "how"
we are trying to shoot the method,the system , because we cant anderstand why it would work.
maybe we need to ask ; what is it that maybe I am not doing that I dont see ?
any method can work .
not what you are cooking that makes something taste good, it is how you cook it. same ingredients yes, but maybe a different delivery ?
can we handle the truth ?
R.

 

I have an idea. Let's code -20 OG into a dicebot script and see how it goes. What's so magical about baccarat? Leave the robot running while you sleep = profit.

 

I can try to do it myself, what are the exact rules of this system again? Can someone point it out for me where are they, please?

 

Just go back to the first page or two.