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Roulette New system/idea: Mist Trap

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by Sparky, Jan 31, 2016.

  1. EKAPS

    EKAPS Member Founding Member

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    "You don't need luck when you have proper planning." Jethro Gibbs
     
  2. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Nods.
    "Luck", "religion" and "coincidence" - maybe in the next century all 3 will be forgotten. Lol
     
  3. mr j

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    I'll give an example of good luck AT THE TIME.
    A few weeks ago I was playing, I was suppose to bet $50 on the 16.

    I was in a rush and bet the 19 instead. Upside down, its a six (lol). Well, the 19 hits. Should I give the $1,750 to the dealer because I screwed up....got "lucky" with the 19? Hell no but I can NOT RELY on good luck when walking in, no damn way.

    Ken
     
  4. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Nah, it's not luck - you had a 1 in 38 chance no matter what you bet on and that's what happened.
    Grins.
    Luck is something people tend to use for something that already happened though, which makes no sense to me.
    It's like reverse engineering something that happened and then saying it was 'luck'.
    Much like everything that couldn't be explained in the past was "God".
    The more we learn how things work, the less "God" there is of course.
    Someone who looks at it as purely math sees "luck" the same way - it doesn't exist.
    (Maybe you were on the wrong side of the table Ken lol - well no, then you would have played 91 somehow - thinks.... I wonder what the table looks like from the other side ?......) It must be time for bed
     
  5. mr j

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    Yeah, I like to sit next to the wheel, just like you. Was suppose to do the 16 but was spacing out (lol), played the 19 instead. Oh well, it worked out.

    Ken
     
  6. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

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    Playing the game, changes the game. (This is a post that I was planning to make in it's own thread, but it fits pretty well here.) This means that if the player takes a break to use the bathroom and his number hits while he's away... that he may not have won had had he stayed to play.

    Had he stayed...the dealer may have taken more time before spinning the ball. If there's more time before he bets, then more of the wheel will have spun by before the dealer launched the ball. This means the physical alignment of the ball on the track and the wheel speed will likely have been different enough to have generated a completely different outcome. If he had stayed to play, then the chance of him winning on that winning number, straight up, was still only 1/38.

    If you want to go to a deeper level, then you could theoretically argue that quantum mechanics even proves that simply observing an event is enough to change it. However...it sounds absurd mentioning quantum mechanics in a roulette thread. Now I will have to go and ridicule myself for even having mentioned it.

    If you had a time machine, and you could travel to the past, then you'd still likely change the outcome because you were at the table instead of in the bathroom...again changing the playing conditions and observing the event.

    Everyone that plays must overcome the "would of bet that number but missed it" syndrome. This leads people into betting more and more numbers at every spin, and doing silly stuff like hedging the outside bets by betting on the zeros. Let go, use logic, and don't get upset if "your numbers" hit when you're not on them.


    Don't bet on so many numbers. Overtime you're more likely to still be a winner if you bet on fewer numbers. In order to bet on fewer numbers you have to beat the syndrome above.[​IMG]

    Mr. J.,

    Since you were playing, you were part of the reason that the number 19 hit.

    -Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone
     
  7. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

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    The post above was mainly directed at players other than Mr. J.
     

  8. mr j

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    Great post and a great movie I might add.

    Ken
     
  9. albalaha

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    It happens. In many of my strategies I missed my main numbers while going to urinate or having dinner but since nothing can be done to guess or predict, I believe this doesn't matter. It could have gone either way and have nothing to do with "I wasn't there when it stroke" syndrome.
    Expecting luck or bad luck or guessing or predicting, all are fallacies. Randomness is the only constant that also means "unpredictable".
     
  10. Spider

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    Great, spot on post Dr Sir Anyone Anyone.
     
  11. TurboGenius

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    No ridicule needed - having studied Quantum Theory/Physics/Mechanics/String Theory - it's entirely possible that it can be applied to roulette.
    I could liken it to Shrodinger's cat - (lol)
    If a dealer spins the wheel at a completely empty table, throws the ball and walks away - what number won ?
    "All of them" - until someone walks up to the wheel at some point and looks.
    :)
     

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