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Roulette I've seen a new absurd claim that the gambler's fallacy isn't.....

Discussion in 'Roulette Forum' started by Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone, Oct 16, 2021.

  1. Benas

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    All will be good only...casino not pay money for publishing here pictures...
     
  2. Luckyfella

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    Come on, that's flatbet. Different from martingale and voodoo money management guessing the "trend".

    Missing something?
     
  3. TurboGenius

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  4. Median Joe

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    Turbo, nice cherry-picked chart.
     
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    Very good post Gizmo.
    I must say you are very thorough with your testing.
     
  6. daveylibra

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    Turbo, I'm not sure what you are saying. Are you saying that the 10th spin from your example does not have a 50/50 chance of being red or black?
     
  7. Luckyfella

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    Maybe, still have not seen a similar flatbet possible cherry picked chart on forums. Can you?
     

  8. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    No it won't. Reading Randomness is going to blow up the gambling industry. Thank goodness for people like you that won't make sense of it until someone comes up and explains to you that it was once an opportunity. You are like a well wisher standing on the dock as three small ships sail away to the west and you warn them that they will sail off the edge of the world.
     
  9. gizmotron

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    Turbo, you have cried wolf so many times that your efforts are nearly worthless. Now you are telling people that past spins can be used to predict the future. It won't be what you are saying five years from now. But keep trying. That magical math may one day be the electric lightbulb for you.
     
  10. gizmotron

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    Reading Randomness uses trends and patterns to confirm when they are working as if they were predicting the future, knowing all along that they will never predict the future. It's about using a construct to identify win streaks that are occurring in real time. It then uses this identifying process to utilize the same effective tactic that counting cards uses. Instead of using a mathematical weakness it uses a coincidental circumstantial weakness that actually exists. To break that down into it's simplest understanding it's about timing management.

    I never expect you system players to get this. It takes skill and hard work. You guys are fixated on finding a way to treat a casino like your own personal ATM machine.
     
  11. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Thanks,

    I like to put telemetry into my sims so that everyone can see what was bet on, the amount that was bet on, and the result of that bet on that spin. My practice software for RR does that. There is no pretending or curve fitting. There is no need for people to beg or guess what the strategy is for months on end. It's the only way to teach. You just come out and say what you are doing. You demonstrate each bet and result so that nothing is ever left to guessing. In other words, scientific evidence.
     
  12. Ka2

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    Are you correct in the above? Yes, Only a number that has showed 1 time can go to 2 times.

    BUT and here we go again. If you calculate all the numbers that are on 1 before the first 2 hits. The total is on average 1:37 (you can calculate this easily by yourself) you can do this for all the 2's that go to 3 same 1 in 37. and so forth and so forth.

    And what if you would look at the first 1? Will it has a better change to go to 2? (horse race?) nope again it will be 1:37 if you do the tests. The first 2? nope, first 3 nope.

    Then I calculated the max it went before the first 1 went to 2. It was a whopping 256 "spins" that would be an incredible progression.

    You see if it only went so far to say 70 or 80 spins before you get a hit, then you could create a winning system. But there are way to many of those big strays.

    You could say well then I will stop at 72 "spins" and start over again. I did some tests there as well and it failed. The times you win within 72 spins will be evened out by the times it will go over 72. etc etc etc
     
  13. DutchCrown

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    The problem was and still is, you guys don't read a thing we post. I showed how you can use past spins to predict future outcomes, and turbo has over more then a decade. And still you say you can't predict from past spins. Geez, first start reading, then you might learn something.
     
  14. Ka2

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    We never said turbo is wrong. It is however if you do the calculations right it is always 1:37. So no better than random. Can you predict future outcomes from past spins. You sure can, but you never can tell when exactly. Yes it will happen in the future and if you count all spins play to get those winning bets in the future it will be 1:37.
     

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    @ Ka2

    The problem is that you are never going to know what he does. He is never going to tell it. He will move on to the next banana on a stick and string. You are supposed to guess what he is doing with just enough hints that makes Turbo the most effective troll to ever rule the gambling forums. He wins every time just to attract you like flies on shit. It's the very best long running baloney festival on the internet. He will never produce spin for spin full disclosed telemetry. You see, only a fool would give away a working Holy Grail system.

    Sit back, enjoy this crop's suckers get harvested. Watch Turbo buzz by and crop dust the field. This being suckered in each time is the message,.
     
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  16. Ka2

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    Will they "catch" up? Definitely! Will you know when? No. You only show the easy examples not the sessions when it takes a long time before they hit. Grab a calculator and calculate the average when those numbers have "caught" up. What will it show... 1:37 it just doenst work that way.

    I'm still amazed that people dont do a few test and calculate the average...
     
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  17. gizmotron

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    "Sucker me once your falt. Sucker me twice my fault."

    Just post common sense telemetry for each spin. Don't bother word beating me to death with your conclusions. Explanations attached to incomplete results is not live playing telemetry. You suckers are full sized chickens. You always run away and hide after being challenged to post complete live playing telemetry. If you had full featured telemetry you might learn something yourself. Now run a way and hide. This discussion is way over your head.

    I use telemetry as a way to check to see that the sim is executing correctly. Try it, you won't go back to confirmation bias.
     
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  18. DutchCrown

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    Again, hope this prevent from bein' brought up again.

    track 37 spins, note all unhit and hit mumbers.

    Now spin again 37 times.

    now you will see that the first set of 37 numbers aren't the same as the last 37.

    So...... after 37 spins i can look in the future and tell you that at spin 74 at least 1 unhit number from the first 37 have showed up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    THIS IS ALL KINDERGARDEN ROULETTE BASICS
     
  19. Ka2

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    Of course he will never tell. There is nothing to tell. Just once in a while a come along here to see if things has changed for entertainment purposes. Nope still the same preacher with different followers :)

    The preacher never answers the difficult answers and the followers always defending their guru until the moment they realize it doesnt work and then they are to ashamed to come here and tell about it. :)
     
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    "Sucker me once your falt. Sucker me twice my fault."

    Just post common sense telemetry for each spin. Don't bother word beating me to death with your conclusions. Explanations attached to incomplete results is not live playing telemetry. You suckers are full sized chickens. You always run away and hide after being challenged to post complete live playing telemetry. If you had full featured telemetry you might learn something yourself. Now run a way and hide. This discussion is way over your head.

    I use telemetry as a way to check to see that the sim is executing correctly. Try it, you won't go back to confirmation bias.[/QUOTE]
    sure you do
     

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