TurboGenius Gambler's Fallacy (absurd ?) Proof.

You understand himself what you here wrote ? That are words about nothing, ! What is your aim in writing such ?

 

I was going to post a list of the minimum required number of bets for each location, but not sure if there's much point because almost nobody is going to test that much manually. And if they can code they would just code the system directly. I might do it anyway because at least they'll know if their "winning systems" have been put through the wringer enough to justify their belief in it. But the problem is most use progressions, and that complicates things.

 

Thanks DutchCrown!! I will study it and try.
I guess there is some way to bet flat and consistently win from spins earlier to 74. Even before spin 37.
But can you give any hints on how to select potentially hot numbers to win flat bet?
That is, if I bet from spin 1 on each number that is coming out, those numbers are already hot, as they are shown below 1:37. If I wait to place my bets on each number that is repeating, they will be equally hot, and we should not bet on a number that is already hot. But then, we only have to bet on numbers that have not appeared and that have the potential to become hot, but we do not know, what numbers can be or can offer a greater number of hits in the next spins.
Can you give some kind of clue?

Thank you very much in advance.
Regards.

 

Why start over? Why after new high, take the last 74 spins that you played and immediately start playing for new numbers?

 

lA lA Land here we come . What are we waiting for ?

 

@DutchCrown
if for example number #25 show up in spin 120 for the first time, for our progression it is as if we were in spin 11 of cycle 1, that is, we would continue to bet on 1 unit.
That's right?

Thanks!

 

Practicing, I have found sessions with 3 unhit after 74 numbers and a session with only 1 unhit (in this session I went to spin 535 to get benefit). Perhaps, it is essential that after 74 spins there are between 5 and 9 unhit in order to start playing?

Thanks!

 

That'a what i ment.
As soon you are at a new high, take the last 74 spins and take the unhits as they come just like before. Simple way is to use ayk tracker and set thw confic (track last) at 74.

 

Yes, i noticed that too. What i do is when i ha e tracked 74 spins and there are less then 5 unhit numbers i track until i have atleast 5. Good observation.

 

Not exactly.
When number 25 shows up for the first time on spin 120, it's already in it's 4th cycle, so 3 behind.
To balance out in this cycle, it has to hit 4 times before spin 140.
But it doesn't have to for us to profit on this number. I has to show up 2 times only before spin 155.

What kind of progression to use:

I do the following;
Let's say i play 6 numbers. I will track each number in it's own cycle.

let's say we use a cycle of 35 spins (for obvious reasons)

when we start betting on a number it gets 1 unit as a base bet.
when that number doesn't show up again in the following 34 spins, we do nothing. (why should we!) It stays at 1 unit for the next cycle.
When it doesn't show up for the entire next 35 spins, we add 1 unit to that number. So the next cycle it has a base bet of 2 units. It stays at 2 units until it doesn't show again for the next 35 spins. if it does show 1 time, you do nothing, if it shows up 2 times you return to your original basebet of 1 unit.

plain and simple.

cycle 1 (1 show - stay at 1)
cycle 2 (0 shows - raise with 1)
cycle 3 (1 show - stay at 2)
cycle 4 (2 shows - lowerto 1)

playing this way, you are using your progression the optimal way and it can never go out of control

 

Have no like button. Yes, a lot is being clarified, also with the question of 38 rotation. I will test it all tomorrow. I've been doing tests all day today with my discoveries and new ideas about averages. There is no permanent result yet, but I can already see what exactly is not working, and why. I.e. the base was hot, although in general these hot ones were cold somewhere, but nevertheless, now I see that there is just not enough work specifically with cold ones to connect them to hot ones. I'll try to connect it tomorrow.

 

@DutchCrown
Ok, but I did not fully understand the progression to follow, that is, if the number # 25 appears for the first time in spin 120 from spin 121 to spin 155 I will bet 1 unit on it. Suppose there is no hit, then from spin 156 to 190 we will continue to bet 1 unit on it. The number appears in spin 180, that is, the balance of that number is at -25. My question is, if I hit the spin 180, would we continue to bet 1 unit on it until balance of that number is -70 and then raise the bet to 2 units?

I want to understand the progression well.

Thanks again!!!

 

#25 hits on spin 120
his first cycle is from 121-155
it has hit 1 time in it's own cycle, so we don't raise our bet at the end of this cycle, because in it's own universe it's performing on average of 1/35.
But when we look at this session as a whole with all numbers combined #25 is behind 4 hits.
0 shows in 1-35 0 shows in 36-70 0 shows in 71-105 and 1 show in 106-140. So it only has hit 1 time out of 4 what would be normal. So this number as explained before will try to get back to 1/35 as soon as possible, therefore we can asume we'll be getting more hits in the upcomming cyclea, wich means, using the above progression, will insure you that you will profit once this number will hit above it's expectation, wich it needs to, to be able to return to normal expectation again.

we raise when it doesn't show up (at the beginning of the next cycle)
we lower our bet if it hits above expectation in the next cycle and we do nothing if it stays on average. just clear math.
Hope this helps, otherwise please say so.

 

Perhaps I don't know how to shape it that would translate in the meaningful picture in your head, but it sure does to me .. & that's what important.

 

No, your brain is cluttered with full-of shit .. that's why you are having trouble seeing it as it is meanwhile interpreting in your own way .. that doesn't make any sense to you, just like it doesn't to Benassi. My vocabulary is way different from yours, which I would at any ppint dismiss as a standard & a measure of things.

Why don't you rather ask what each means?

In addition, am I 100% consistent with it yet, admittedly due to new development as some things are added to the core concept anew .. not just yet. It has to adapt properly & come into resonance with an existing approach.

 

you're -- go learn fucking English.

 

When unleashed joe & benas can't succeed the big guns are called in .. but ultimately you ain't no big gun.

 

Sorry thereddiamanthe,

But your frilly explanation of how you play indicates that you're full of shit.

 

You, too, should be..

My play is mainly based on the principles to summarize mentioned in DrTalos & a few additions.
• ≠stop-loss!
• minimum betting
• nominal profit +1 (or coincidentally nearby)
• wide/focused betting
• slight progression

≠ stop-loss -- there's no point basing the play on the system that loses even if once in a while
minimum betting -- only bet as much as the game asks for nominal profit
nominal profit -- each game concludes in +1u or nearby, a chain of games makes a session
these two above ensure lowest & any point still recoverable drawdowns + small bankroll requirement
wide/focused -- switching between more numbers & to fewer numbers played per spin after the hit


now that I've seen what Turbo showed in the original post of this thread; I am adapting this into my play;

although since I am betting continuously rather than solely tracking for the first bit & starting to bet on an unhit SU number the after + making use of the currently performing (which then some of the unhits take its place instead).

The above is my intuition worded as best as I can for now for my purposes .. & sure will get preciser & cleaner & more refined along the way .. adapted into more commonly used terms that anyone can easily take in, especially withthe support of practical examples. But that ain't of primary concern, it working is.


How you label this & if it qualifies to meet your standards, ain't of my concern.
None of that has any effect on my play &or my life + brings the cash into my pocket.

Now, I am sure you would like to put everything & view it through your model just like fucked up jews assimilate &put everything into their three of life model but .. you're just a guy on a forum who allegedly bases his play on completely different principles & anything that does not fit those has been historically consistently labeled as shit -- DESPITE WHEN IT BEYOND (THE ABILITY) YOUR COMPREHENSION CONSISTENTLY WINS.

So enjoy your carbonara ..