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TurboGenius Gambler's Fallacy (absurd ?) Proof.

Discussion in 'TurboGenius's Forum' started by TurboGenius, Oct 29, 2021.

  1. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    It's a harmonic convergence on the slopes of Mt Shasta.
     
  2. Ka2

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    Wrong, you will see it on average every x amount of spins.

    A number repeating 2 times in a row? On average every 37 spins! (yes you read that correctly every 37 spins cycle!)

    A number repeating 3 times in a row? On average every 37 x 37 spins

    A number repeating 4 times in a row? On average every 37 x 37 x 37 spins etc etc you get the point

    This IS how RANDOM WORKS!!!
     
  3. DutchCrown

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    I know, but that's not what he told us and what i ment.
    He wins 100% every 38 spins when at least 1 repeat comes, it's game over! Again, Impossible!!!
     
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  4. DutchCrown

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    this has nothing to do with ramdom, but the way he looks at math.
     
  5. thereddiamanthe

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    For the blind & those not being able to see between the lines -- it ain't about the DrTalos .. but the principle herein.

    DSAA jumping out feeling endangered already ..
     
  6. thereddiamanthe

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    Exactly, as the post above, Dycsexlic himself is beyond the point.
     
  7. thereddiamanthe

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    You just wanna isolate & limit the view .. holistic.

    Now transcend & watch from the point of view of 'group' of numbers -- always group.
     

  8. thereddiamanthe

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    The main point is the probability of the distribution as a whole being the same revolution upon revolution -- ie. the SAME numbers at the beginning of each revolution having no label entering the exact same pidgeonhole=label = the same numbers entering the hit (repeats+uniques) & unhits only -- is minuscule to none; & in addition the one that coincidentally happened waning more & more with each next revolution =cycle.

    That's what both joe & 2up are sayinng -- each in his ow way -- joe that previous revolution outcomes have no direct bearing on the next revolution but its overall 1/37 -- 2up telling you that the sums of each revolution as a group as well (as numbers alone) will over time match 1.37 & various types of permutations having appeared withing certain extent only, & depending on how many revolutions or populus of cycles with & within an unchanging amount of certainty --

    tipping all the individual numbers (+ pidgeonholes) will inevitable amount to 1/37.

    Coupled with the first advantage betting on the number late being with effect of the yet unwasted units ( + the above of advantage of the probability of the same numbers repeating themselves as unhits with every new revolution) -- that's one of the core principles = dynamic constrainst = random.

    THAT'S HOW RANDOM WORKS !!

    Forget the names, those are utilized to reach the already established associations & in links in the minds to re-link & re-purpose them only.



    Can I tell this in one simple clear paragraph, perhaps, getting there ..
     
  9. Quos

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    Here's a system,
    Set RX in 37 spin mode then only play numbers showing 3x when you've played 37 spins get rid of all the numbers and play numbers already 3x and any that goes upto 3x in the next cycle.
     
  11. Rulet

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    Sometimes you can have 6-7 numbers but you are always playing numbers that are hot in the current cycle
     
  12. Rulet

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    And any overlapping in between
     
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    Don't have to wait for jackshyte
     
  14. DutchCrown

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    Good luck with that.
     

  15. DutchCrown

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    Sorry for not responding, didn't had the time.
    But you are correct about the progression. To awnser your question, there is no limit, it can be 2 3 4 etc, but this won't happening very often, becaue the hits will increase over time, so the progression we are using wil stay low. Enough to end in profit all the time.
    Take care and have a great day.
     
  16. Platton

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    Don't waste your time - this betting method is a bullshit. I killed all day yesterday testing this. Again. I didn't write because it was already late and I was very tired.
    The bottom line is that this is what always happens. That a series of numbers will still come across, and it's even 5-6 numbers, where several numbers remain cold and even colder. And after seeing what happens during the betting of this game, I'll just tell you the gist. And the bottom line is that when these numbers remain cold, you increase the bet on them all the time after each cycle (35). And I've tried dozens of different options. And remove the numbers when each number has made a profit for itself. And leave and you have no idea what I just haven't tried.But the bottom line is that these few numbers that remain cold even further, with this method of betting you increase the bet on them, and those numbers that fall out win with a lower bet. Therefore, if you turn on the logic as it happens, one or several numbers with large bets take away more than those that fall out with smaller ones, Therefore this method of betting is bad. I always reset at a new peak. Yes, he wins often. But the earnings are so small that then when you get to these numbers (and this happens often), then in one session with them you lose everything you earned and even more. That's why it's bullshit.
    But, I turned on the logic of what was happening, and realized that the only way in such a game is to increase the bet when winning, as Turbo always advised. Yes, she even wins with a flat always, but for a long time. Therefore, it is logical to simply increase the bet when winning - and this method is the only one of all my tests that has really always won. And I tested not manually, but in my program on spins from a real roulette. So there's a lot. And in general, for all the years - this is the only system that has won on all of them! There was one moment, in the second series of numbers, where at the end I went into a big minus, because there were only 3 numbers for the bet. And this is really not enough. Although there were many times that there were 2-3 numbers, and they won very quickly. But it is better to have 5-6 numbers at least. And I'm sure that I would even have won in the end with those 3 numbers when I went into negative, but it was almost at the very end of my series of numbers, and I ran out of them. But before this drawdown, I had earned 400 chips.
    So in this form of betting, this is the best way, as I believe. No need to count anything after. Only 70 spins, so that there are at least 5-6 numbers, If there are no numbers after 70, then scroll through one rotation so that the last 70 are 5-6 or as many as possible. And you play on all these numbers. When a number wins, you just raise his bet by 1. You don't remove anything until you get a new maximum. Then last 70 spins new colds. And that's it.
    I came to the conclusion that they started writing yesterday- today. Since the lot is everywhere, you just need a group of numbers, one third of them will be above average, another at the level, the third below. Thus, you increase the bet by those numbers that will be higher than the average (although this is not required, it's just faster to win).. They bring a new high. You follow the wheel and choose new numbers. And that's it. Simple logic based on the base. Don't trust - just test!
    Yes, maybe it gave me some understanding of things, but in general, the day is spent again. Because the profit there is 0.6 chips per spin. It's not enough somehow. And for a long time. Therefore, I still can't finish what I should have finished a long time ago, based on hots. And I have every day on the account.
     
  17. Mako

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    System vultures are getting upset with not being provided with an HG with full instructions and details…oh my.

    Platton, jokes aside, you’re on the right track. It takes years of testing and refining to even begin to have a chance, as Lucky and CHT have said, the answer lies in the math, and Turbo has provided enough of a foundation to build on if you have enough time.

    His minimum interval approaches are excellent, my own testing with actual spins matches his results almost to the letter. Keep at it, you’ll get it.
     
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    0.6 profit per spin isn't enough?
     
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  19. Platton

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    First of all, I'm not upset. I have never demanded hg from anyone. I would never say anything myself and I understand them perfectly.
    Secondly, unfortunately I don't have time, I have one day left.
    But at the expense of intervals is very interesting. This is what I wrote in a big post later, what I notice in testing. But I don't understand what you mean? Is there a link about what Turbo says about this?
     
  20. Platton

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    Hi Gigi! How are you? Well, not enough for me. It's a long time, even taking into account the fact that I'm never going to play manually. But if I don't do what I wanted tomorrow, I'll have to at least use it if I can.
    PS I wanted to thank you all the time that thanks to you I saw how to look at hot in a different way. Even everything that has been written here lately and what Turbo has posted in 4 parts, I still might not have looked at it from the other side if not for your March teaser. So, Thank you.
     
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