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TurboGenius When does it lose ?

Discussion in 'TurboGenius's Forum' started by TurboGenius, Nov 14, 2021.

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  1. Luckyfella

    Luckyfella Well-Known Member

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    SirNoOne,

    You are showing simple statistical significance counting.

    What's required is to prove causation and not a case of correlation.
     
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  2. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

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    Hmmm...so you're saying that it's bad for data to correlate to prior data?:rolleyes:

    And what do you believe is the causation?
     
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  3. Luckyfella

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    So which obscure 4th world casino you found this wobbly wheel that doesn't monitor the count?
     
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  4. Luckyfella

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    SirNoOne,

    So you claim causation everytime you fart and it rain. Lol
     
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  5. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

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    And what do you believe is the "causation?"
     
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  6. Luckyfella

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    SirNoOne,

    I believe you over-extended correlation to causation interpretation which is deterministic that has to be proven.

    I believe you did zero work to prove causation, instead rely on your guessing correlation.

    I also believe your correlation guesses were wrong in many cases that cost lots of lost bankrolls.

    And even in those few times it work your bankroll was in deep drawdown.

    You definitely need lots of luck.
    So good luck to you.
     
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  7. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

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    And what do you believe is the "causation?" What is your best guess?
     
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  8. Luckyfella

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    Your fart.
     
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  9. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

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    So you don't know anything about causation or correlation? :rolleyes:
     
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  10. SPIKE

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    That was my question. What does a string of actuals prove.
     
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  11. SPIKE

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    That's what I was wondering. The way they construct wheels now it's almost impossible for them to become biased. Even recording numbers has become hard. When I was playing in brick-and-mortar casinos some pit dick was always coming up wanting to know what I was writing down. He wanted to see if I was keeping track of the numbers. Everybody is on to this biased wheel nonsense now, I don't see how anybody is making a living at it.
     
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  12. Ka2

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    See I did not know about this function in excel or how to calculate it! This is very useful! Thanks for sharing TwoUp!
     
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    I love it when a set of spins are used to illustrate detection of a weakness.

    Here I took those 380 spins and used my practice software to first paste them in using a button for that purpose. Then I hit format so that the software was ready to assemble the same line delimited text into a standard comma delimited list stripped of all carriage returns and blank space. I then pressed Black as the selected bet for each one of those spins at $90 per bet. Out popped this chart of EC's for my RR method. Just look at the graph for end results below the text based chart. It shows a huge win streak and a huge losing streak. Most people are unaware that my practice software was built to share examples of randomness in order to discuss it further. I just "showed off" what I created years ago in order to teach. Now it would be instructive to have people give examples and to let others load their own spins to see amazing features and opportunities to wipe out the casino at will by any skilled observer.

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 X | X    | X    | X    | X    |   | X |  --  186  --  13 ( $ 360 ) Black
 X | X    |    X |    X |    X |   | X |  --  187  --  22 ( $ 450 ) Black
 X | X    | X    |    X | X    |   |   |  --  188  --  29 ( $ 540 ) Black
 X | X    | X    |    X | X    |   |   |  --  189  --  29 ( $ 630 ) Black
   |    X |    X |    X |    X | X | X |  --  190  --  32 ( $ 540 ) Black
 X | X    | X    |    X | X    |   |   |  --  191  --  29 ( $ 630 ) Black
 X | X    | X    | X    | X    |   | X |  --  192  --  13 ( $ 720 ) Black
 X | X    |    X |    X |    X |   | X |  --  193  --  22 ( $ 810 ) Black
 X | X    | X    |    X | X    |   | X |  --  194  --  35 ( $ 900 ) Black
   |    X | X    | X    |    X |   |   |  --  195  --  07 ( $ 810 ) Black
 X | X    | X    |    X | X    |   | X |  --  196  --  35 ( $ 900 ) Black
 X | X    |    X |    X | X    | X |   |  --  197  --  28 ( $ 990 ) Black
   |    X |    X | X    |    X | X |   |  --  198  --  18 ( $ 900 ) Black
   |    X |    X | X    | X    |   |   |  --  199  --  14 ( $ 810 ) Black
   |    X |    X |    X |    X |   |   |  --  200  --  34 ( $ 720 ) Black
   |    X | X    | X    | X    | X |   |  --  201  --  01 ( $ 630 ) Black
   |    X | X    |    X |    X |   |   |  --  202  --  19 ( $ 540 ) Black
   |    X |    X |    X | X    |   | X |  --  203  --  30 ( $ 450 ) Black
   |    X |    X |    X | X    |   |   |  --  204  --  36 ( $ 360 ) Black
   |    X | X    |    X | X    | X |   |  --  205  --  27 ( $ 270 ) Black
 X | X    |    X |    X | X    | X |   |  --  206  --  28 ( $ 360 ) Black
   |    X | X    | X    |    X | X | X |  --  207  --  05 ( $ 270 ) Black
 X | X    | X    |    X | X    |   | X |  --  208  --  35 ( $ 360 ) Black
 X | X    | X    |    X |    X |   | X |  --  209  --  33 ( $ 450 ) Black
   |    X |    X |    X | X    |   | X |  --  210  --  30 ( $ 360 ) Black
   |    X | X    |    X | X    |   | X |  --  211  --  25 ( $ 270 ) Black
 X | X    |    X |    X | X    |   |   |  --  212  --  26 ( $ 360 ) Black
 X | X    |    X |    X |    X |   | X |  --  213  --  22 ( $ 450 ) Black
   |    X | X    | X    |    X |   |   |  --  214  --  07 ( $ 360 ) Black
   |    X |    X |    X |    X | X | X |  --  215  --  32 ( $ 270 ) Black
   |    X |    X | X    |    X |   |   |  --  216  --  16 ( $ 180 ) Black
 X | X    |    X |    X | X    |   |   |  --  217  --  24 ( $ 270 ) Black
   |    X | X    |    X | X    |   | X |  --  218  --  25 ( $ 180 ) Black
 X | X    |    X | X    | X    | X |   |  --  219  --  02 ( $ 270 ) Black
 X | X    | X    |    X |    X |   | X |  --  220  --  33 ( $ 360 ) Black
   |    X | X    | X    |    X | X | X |  --  221  --  05 ( $ 270 ) Black
 X | X    |    X | X    | X    |   | X |  --  222  --  10 ( $ 360 ) Black
 X | X    |    X |    X |    X |   | X |  --  223  --  20 ( $ 450 ) Black
   |    X | X    |    X | X    | X |   |  --  224  --  27 ( $ 360 ) Black
 X | X    | X    |    X |    X | X | X |  --  225  --  31 ( $ 450 ) Black
 X | X    | X    | X    |    X |   | X |  --  226  --  15 ( $ 540 ) Black
   |    X | X    | X    | X    | X |   |  --  227  --  01 ( $ 450 ) Black
   |    X | X    |    X |    X |   | X |  --  228  --  21 ( $ 360 ) Black
   |    X | X    | X    | X    |   |   |  --  229  --  09 ( $ 270 ) Black
 X | X    |    X |    X |    X |   | X |  --  230  --  20 ( $ 360 ) Black
   |    X | X    | X    |    X | X |   |  --  231  --  03 ( $ 270 ) Black
 X | X    |    X | X    |    X |   |   |  --  232  --  08 ( $ 360 ) Black
   |    X |    X | X    |    X |   |   |  --  233  --  16 ( $ 270 ) Black
 X | X    | X    |    X | X    |   |   |  --  234  --  29 ( $ 360 ) Black
   |    X | X    |    X | X    |   | X |  --  235  --  25 ( $ 270 ) Black
   |    X |    X | X    |    X |   |   |  --  236  --  16 ( $ 180 ) Black
 X | X    | X    | X    |    X | X | X |  --  237  --  11 ( $ 270 ) Black
 X | X    | X    |    X | X    |   | X |  --  238  --  35 ( $ 360 ) Black
 X | X    |    X | X    | X    |   | X |  --  239  --  10 ( $ 450 ) Black
   |    X | X    |    X | X    |   | X |  --  240  --  23 ( $ 360 ) Black
 X | X    |    X | X    |    X | X |   |  --  241  --  04 ( $ 450 ) Black
 X | X    |    X |    X |    X |   | X |  --  242  --  22 ( $ 540 ) Black
   |    X |    X | X    |    X | X |   |  --  243  --  18 ( $ 450 ) Black
   |    X |    X | X    |    X | X |   |  --  244  --  18 ( $ 360 ) Black
 X | X    | X    |    X |    X | X | X |  --  245  --  31 ( $ 450 ) Black
 X | X    | X    |    X |    X |   | X |  --  246  --  33 ( $ 540 ) Black
   |    X | X    | X    |    X | X |   |  --  247  --  03 ( $ 450 ) Black
   |    X | X    |    X | X    |   | X |  --  248  --  25 ( $ 360 ) Black
 X | X    | X    | X    |    X | X | X |  --  249  --  11 ( $ 450 ) Black
 X | X    | X    | X    |    X |   | X |  --  250  --  15 ( $ 540 ) Black
 X | X    |    X |    X | X    |   |   |  --  251  --  26 ( $ 630 ) Black
   |    X |    X |    X |    X |   |   |  --  252  --  34 ( $ 540 ) Black
   |    X | X    | X    |    X | X |   |  --  253  --  03 ( $ 450 ) Black
 X | X    |    X | X    |    X |   |   |  --  254  --  08 ( $ 540 ) Black
   |    X | X    |    X |    X |   |   |  --  255  --  19 ( $ 450 ) Black
   |    X | X    | X    |    X | X |   |  --  256  --  03 ( $ 360 ) Black
 X | X    | X    | X    | X    |   | X |  --  257  --  13 ( $ 450 ) Black
   |    X | X    |    X | X    | X |   |  --  258  --  27 ( $ 360 ) Black
   |--------------------| X    | X | X |  --  259  --  37 ( $ 270 ) Black
   |    X | X    |    X | X    | X |   |  --  260  --  27 ( $ 180 ) Black
 X | X    | X    | X    |    X |   | X |  --  261  --  15 ( $ 270 ) Black
   |    X | X    |    X |    X |   | X |  --  262  --  21 ( $ 180 ) Black
 X | X    | X    |    X |    X | X | X |  --  263  --  31 ( $ 270 ) Black
   |    X |    X | X    |    X | X | X |  --  264  --  12 ( $ 180 ) Black
   |    X |    X | X    |    X | X |   |  --  265  --  18 ( $ 90 ) Black
   |    X | X    |    X |    X |   |   |  --  266  --  19 ( $ 0 ) Black
   |    X |    X |    X | X    |   |   |  --  267  --  36 ( $ -90 ) Black
 X | X    |    X |    X |    X |   | X |  --  268  --  20 ( $ 0 ) Black
 X | X    | X    |    X | X    |   |   |  --  269  --  29 ( $ 90 ) Black
 X | X    | X    |    X | X    |   | X |  --  270  --  35 ( $ 180 ) Black
   |    X | X    | X    |    X | X | X |  --  271  --  05 ( $ 90 ) Black
 X | X    | X    | X    | X    |   | X |  --  272  --  13 ( $ 180 ) Black
 X | X    |    X |    X |    X |   | X |  --  273  --  22 ( $ 270 ) Black
 X | X    |    X | X    | X    |   | X |  --  274  --  10 ( $ 360 ) Black
   |    X | X    | X    |    X | X | X |  --  275  --  05 ( $ 270 ) Black
   |    X |    X | X    |    X |   |   |  --  276  --  16 ( $ 180 ) Black
 X | X    |    X | X    |    X | X |   |  --  277  --  04 ( $ 270 ) Black
 X | X    | X    |    X |    X |   | X |  --  278  --  33 ( $ 360 ) Black
 X | X    |    X |    X | X    |   |   |  --  279  --  24 ( $ 450 ) Black
 X | X    | X    | X    | X    |   | X |  --  280  --  13 ( $ 540 ) Black
 X | X    | X    | X    |    X | X | X |  --  281  --  11 ( $ 630 ) Black
   |    X |    X | X    | X    |   |   |  --  282  --  14 ( $ 540 ) Black
   |--------------------| X    | X | X |  --  283  --  37 ( $ 450 ) Black
 X | X    |    X |    X | X    | X |   |  --  284  --  28 ( $ 540 ) Black
   |    X |    X |    X | X    |   | X |  --  285  --  30 ( $ 450 ) Black
 X | X    |    X |    X | X    |   |   |  --  286  --  26 ( $ 540 ) Black
 X | X    |    X |    X | X    |   |   |  --  287  --  24 ( $ 630 ) Black
 X | X    |    X |    X | X    | X |   |  --  288  --  28 ( $ 720 ) Black
   |    X |    X |    X |    X |   |   |  --  289  --  34 ( $ 630 ) Black
   |    X |    X | X    | X    |   |   |  --  290  --  14 ( $ 540 ) Black
 X | X    |    X |    X | X    | X |   |  --  291  --  28 ( $ 630 ) Black
 X | X    | X    | X    |    X | X | X |  --  292  --  11 ( $ 720 ) Black
   |    X | X    |    X |    X |   |   |  --  293  --  19 ( $ 630 ) Black
   |    X | X    |    X |    X |   | X |  --  294  --  21 ( $ 540 ) Black
 X | X    |    X |    X | X    |   |   |  --  295  --  24 ( $ 630 ) Black
 X | X    |    X | X    |    X | X |   |  --  296  --  06 ( $ 720 ) Black
   |    X | X    | X    |    X | X |   |  --  297  --  03 ( $ 630 ) Black
   |    X | X    |    X |    X |   | X |  --  298  --  21 ( $ 540 ) Black
   |    X | X    |    X | X    |   | X |  --  299  --  25 ( $ 450 ) Black
   |    X | X    | X    |    X | X | X |  --  300  --  05 ( $ 360 ) Black
   |    X |    X | X    |    X | X | X |  --  301  --  12 ( $ 270 ) Black
   |--------------------| X    | X | X |  --  302  --  37 ( $ 180 ) Black
   |    X | X    | X    |    X |   |   |  --  303  --  07 ( $ 90 ) Black
 X | X    |    X | X    | X    |   | X |  --  304  --  10 ( $ 180 ) Black
 X | X    | X    | X    |    X |   | X |  --  305  --  15 ( $ 270 ) Black
   |    X | X    | X    |    X | X | X |  --  306  --  05 ( $ 180 ) Black
 X | X    |    X | X    | X    | X |   |  --  307  --  02 ( $ 270 ) Black
 X | X    |    X | X    | X    | X |   |  --  308  --  02 ( $ 360 ) Black
 X | X    |    X |    X | X    | X |   |  --  309  --  28 ( $ 450 ) Black
   |    X | X    |    X | X    |   | X |  --  310  --  23 ( $ 360 ) Black
   |    X | X    | X    | X    |   |   |  --  311  --  09 ( $ 270 ) Black
   |    X | X    |    X | X    |   | X |  --  312  --  23 ( $ 180 ) Black
   |    X | X    |    X | X    | X |   |  --  313  --  27 ( $ 90 ) Black
 X | X    |    X |    X |    X |   | X |  --  314  --  20 ( $ 180 ) Black
   |    X | X    | X    | X    |   |   |  --  315  --  09 ( $ 90 ) Black
   |--------------------| X    | X | X |  --  316  --  37 ( $ 0 ) Black
   |    X | X    | X    |    X |   |   |  --  317  --  07 ( $ -90 ) Black
 X | X    |    X |    X | X    | X |   |  --  318  --  28 ( $ 0 ) Black
   |    X |    X |    X | X    |   | X |  --  319  --  30 ( $ -90 ) Black
   |    X |    X |    X | X    |   | X |  --  320  --  30 ( $ -180 ) Black
 X | X    | X    |    X |    X |   | X |  --  321  --  33 ( $ -90 ) Black
   |    X | X    |    X |    X |   | X |  --  322  --  21 ( $ -180 ) Black
   |    X |    X |    X | X    |   |   |  --  323  --  36 ( $ -270 ) Black
   |    X | X    | X    | X    |   |   |  --  324  --  09 ( $ -360 ) Black
   |    X | X    | X    |    X | X | X |  --  325  --  05 ( $ -450 ) Black
   |    X | X    | X    | X    | X |   |  --  326  --  01 ( $ -540 ) Black
 X | X    |    X |    X | X    |   |   |  --  327  --  24 ( $ -450 ) Black
   |    X |    X | X    |    X |   |   |  --  328  --  16 ( $ -540 ) Black
 X | X    |    X | X    | X    |   | X |  --  329  --  10 ( $ -450 ) Black
   |    X |    X |    X |    X |   |   |  --  330  --  34 ( $ -540 ) Black
 X | X    |    X | X    |    X | X |   |  --  331  --  04 ( $ -450 ) Black
   |    X | X    |    X | X    | X |   |  --  332  --  27 ( $ -540 ) Black
   |    X |    X |    X |    X |   |   |  --  333  --  34 ( $ -630 ) Black
   |    X | X    | X    | X    | X |   |  --  334  --  01 ( $ -720 ) Black
   |--------------------| X    | X | X |  --  335  --  37 ( $ -810 ) Black
   |    X |    X | X    | X    |   |   |  --  336  --  14 ( $ -900 ) Black
 X | X    |    X | X    |    X | X |   |  --  337  --  04 ( $ -810 ) Black
 X | X    | X    | X    |    X | X |   |  --  338  --  17 ( $ -720 ) Black
   |    X | X    |    X |    X |   | X |  --  339  --  21 ( $ -810 ) Black
   |    X |    X | X    | X    |   |   |  --  340  --  14 ( $ -900 ) Black
 X | X    |    X | X    | X    |   | X |  --  341  --  10 ( $ -810 ) Black
 X | X    |    X | X    |    X |   |   |  --  342  --  08 ( $ -720 ) Black
 X | X    |    X | X    |    X | X |   |  --  343  --  06 ( $ -630 ) Black
   |    X |    X |    X | X    |   | X |  --  344  --  30 ( $ -720 ) Black
 X | X    |    X |    X |    X |   | X |  --  345  --  22 ( $ -630 ) Black
 X | X    |    X |    X | X    |   |   |  --  346  --  26 ( $ -540 ) Black
   |--------------------| X    | X | X |  --  347  --  37 ( $ -630 ) Black
   |    X |    X | X    | X    |   |   |  --  348  --  14 ( $ -720 ) Black
 X | X    |    X | X    |    X | X |   |  --  349  --  06 ( $ -630 ) Black
   |    X |    X |    X | X    |   |   |  --  350  --  36 ( $ -720 ) Black
   |    X |    X | X    |    X |   |   |  --  351  --  16 ( $ -810 ) Black
 X | X    |    X |    X | X    | X |   |  --  352  --  28 ( $ -720 ) Black
   |    X |    X | X    | X    |   |   |  --  353  --  14 ( $ -810 ) Black
   |    X | X    | X    | X    |   |   |  --  354  --  09 ( $ -900 ) Black
 X | X    |    X | X    | X    |   | X |  --  355  --  10 ( $ -810 ) Black
 X | X    |    X |    X | X    | X |   |  --  356  --  28 ( $ -720 ) Black
 X | X    |    X |    X | X    |   |   |  --  357  --  26 ( $ -630 ) Black
 X | X    | X    |    X | X    |   |   |  --  358  --  29 ( $ -540 ) Black
 X | X    |    X | X    | X    | X |   |  --  359  --  02 ( $ -450 ) Black
   |    X | X    |    X | X    | X |   |  --  360  --  27 ( $ -540 ) Black
   |    X |    X |    X |    X |   |   |  --  361  --  34 ( $ -630 ) Black
 X | X    |    X | X    | X    |   | X |  --  362  --  10 ( $ -540 ) Black
   |    X |    X |    X | X    |   |   |  --  363  --  36 ( $ -630 ) Black
   |    X |    X | X    | X    |   |   |  --  364  --  14 ( $ -720 ) Black
 X | X    | X    |    X | X    |   |   |  --  365  --  29 ( $ -630 ) Black
 X | X    | X    | X    |    X | X | X |  --  366  --  11 ( $ -540 ) Black
 X | X    | X    | X    |    X | X | X |  --  367  --  11 ( $ -450 ) Black
 X | X    | X    |    X | X    |   | X |  --  368  --  35 ( $ -360 ) Black
 X | X    |    X |    X | X    | X |   |  --  369  --  28 ( $ -270 ) Black
 X | X    |    X |    X | X    |   |   |  --  370  --  24 ( $ -180 ) Black
   |    X |    X |    X | X    |   |   |  --  371  --  36 ( $ -270 ) Black
 X | X    | X    |    X | X    |   |   |  --  372  --  29 ( $ -180 ) Black
 X | X    | X    | X    |    X | X |   |  --  373  --  17 ( $ -90 ) Black
 X | X    | X    | X    |    X |   | X |  --  374  --  15 ( $ 0 ) Black
   |    X | X    | X    | X    |   |   |  --  375  --  09 ( $ -90 ) Black
 X | X    |    X | X    |    X |   |   |  --  376  --  08 ( $ 0 ) Black
   |    X | X    |    X | X    |   | X |  --  377  --  23 ( $ -90 ) Black
   |    X | X    | X    |    X | X | X |  --  378  --  05 ( $ -180 ) Black
   |    X | X    |    X | X    |   | X |  --  379  --  25 ( $ -270 ) Black
 X | X    |    X |    X | X    |   |   |  --  380  --  24 ( $ -180 ) Black
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  14. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Example of discussion from chart above.

    From spin # 3 to # 18 in the Black & Red grouping there is a noticeable absence of singles and doubles. I would have won my single net win from that continuing and left the casino with my net one unit win.

    How you might ask?

    I would just wait for a change and bet once for it to repeat because singles and doubles are continuing to go absent.
     
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  15. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    I just took this entire discussion and showed how almost entirely useless spending all this time on math based weaknesses is worth. So at the end of 380 spins you get an aggregate 6 to 10 net wins. Meanwhile more than one hundred micro opportunities could have paid off for you, not to mention the huge lucky streak in Blacks.
     
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  16. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    You guys are like watching a glacier move.
     
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  17. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    So we can know by collecting data if a wheel is producing random results or not....
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    ...
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    Pretty sure I said that 20 pages ago and was told I was wrong.
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  18. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    It's good to have the obvious proven. It helps those that must have a reason to win.
     
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  19. alexlaf

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    Hi turbo..
    rng test 711 spins
    lowest -331
    current +421
     

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  20. DutchCrown

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    So your wobby wheel now has a number 37 :D
    Nice! :smuggrin:
     
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