TurboGenius Here we go again

What language is that? What are the results for your system when you run it for 100,000 sessions of 100 spins per session? (e.g., # of winning sessions, avg. win per winning session, # of losing sessions, avg. loss per losing session)

 

Dude I don’t even like Bluejay for his political beliefs but I’ll take him in a math argument every time.

And I’ll take that bet anytime you want to make it Nathan.

The guy is one of the smartest people on this Earth and that’s a fact. And he would make a mockery of the “Genius” if the guy wouldn’t hide behind his claims.

But he’s still a damn stinking liberal hippie.

 

Enough said.

 

I thought Sir Anyone said that Benas was the smartest guy here.
Now this guy is.
We're surrounded by the smartest people on the earth, thank God for that.

 

The roulette forums are often filled with IT people that are so so at coding, but there are very few true computer science majors because most of the IT people can't get past all of the math required for the computer science degree. That's why you see so many people trapped in fallacies. Most of the roulette system junkies run visual basic, excel formulas, and some of them can program in python.

 

Hi turbo!
In this link, each race (lap) contemplates the first dozen to hit (the winner of that lap), the second and the third, which can take quite a few spins.
If we execute 9 laps, in the example I have made, I have observed that one of them (3rd dozen) finished first position 5 times. By executing 3 more laps (10th to 12th), the 3rd dozen hit all 3 times. I guess you mean that.
Although doing it with lines or streets for example can take many turns .........
Any more clues?

Thanks for write......

Regards!!

 

One guy is giving 10-1 odds and risking $30k and the other guy won’t even put $3K up. If this was a boxing match, Turbo’s team would have thrown the towel in before the bell.

 

But it's not.
If the moon were made of cheese, we would mine it and bring it home to make pizza. What's your point ?
There's no competition here, I'm sorry. Me and your hero there agree that system scammers who prey on
desperate people are the scum of the earth. I've said this from day 1 at GG.
If you want it to be a boxing match - you're going to be disappointed.

 

Why ?
It shouldn't take anyone worth their weight in plastic a few minutes to calculate if a system works or not.
If I had some absurd system that said "bet on red" - you could prove that as nonsense in a tiny sample
of spins...you just take every possible outcome.
If you're going to say 100,000 sessions of 100 spins each - why not say 10 million sessions
of 100 million spins each ? It's nonsense. First you have to know what the bet selection is for
a system and then you can instantly know how many spins are required for each possible outcome
to happen. A generic 100k of 100 tells me that you aren't very good at maths.
From now on - 100 million sessions of 1 billion spins each or else I call foul on any idea someone posts !!!
There, I win. Sheesh.

 

Let's stipulate that you can't beat Roulette with math. I happen to believe that is true. But that is the end of the story when it comes to math oriented experts. It's not the end though. If you want to beat Roulette you need something that is real, not magical thinking, that is other than math. So I will quantify that for the chronically constipated. Math can never tell you when a win streak will start, how long it will last, and when it will end. Now many math experts will try to then say that you can not know when you are in a win streak. Yet every pit boss worth his credibility in their field knows just about every win streak going on under his watch. It's because of this that math is worthless to success and only serves as a soapbox for those that use it to pose as knowing what's really going on. But any stock trader worth his growing portfolio knows that there are moving averages that bracket themselves in phases that continue to repeat themselves. Math can't predict those movements and changes either. These movements occur even if the trader does no know that there might be a market moving cause for the changes. They just see the framework and structure and set up stop orders to take advantage of these situations. No matter how much a math teacher wants it to be true math does not prevent movements like this from continuing to occur. People lose because of fear. The same goes for gambling in a casino. People quit before they reap the rewards of observational situational advantage because of fear. They stay too long on a loser because of fear also. I would not call this a system or a method. I would call this knowing how things actually work. Math is absurdly useless in gambling and in stock trading. Observation and conditional knowledge is far more useful. I need to know when a win streak starts, how long it lasts, and when it ends. Math can't tell me these things. ...btw, I can program the shit out of anything.

 

We're all stupid and ignorant, remember ?
It's supposed to be demeaning and make "them" look smart while we are the peasants.
That whole approach only works on the stupid and ignorant though.
Like the Wizard of Oz with his loud and thunderous booming voice.

 

This is why I changed and support TG. His Horserace example is perfect for this. He knows that a few horses will outperform the other horses. He knows how to pick them. Statistics is just useful as a baseline. It gives you an understanding of the currently occurring field. I use knowing when I'm in a win streak. Turbo uses knowing when he is on winning horses. Ken knows how to get off of cooling hot numbers. Spike knows how to wait for it to be playing his game. None of these are stupid moves by ignorant gamblers. There are other players here that know that math is useless. Now you can make it useful if you wish to force good judgment through a box of reasons. But it still comes down to using something beyond existing math. This ticks off the absolutists that think they know better. Screw'em. Who cares what they care about.

 

what a huge debt of gratitude all of the forum members owe to these 3 geniuses for providing a road map to riches free of charge

they are so very generous - it makes you wonder why - it's not often you encounter such caring people willing to give away the Keys to the Kingdom to total strangers

surely a Nobel Prize is in the offing for one or more of them very soon - for doing what so many so called brilliant men have stated was impossible

I wonder if they've begun preparing their acceptance speeches?

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In order for the math to work, everything must be done exactly right. And that includes the player making random bets against random outcomes. As soon as he figures out how to make non-random bets that win more than they lose all the math goes out the window. As a defense a math person will say nobody can do that, when they actually have no idea if it can be done or not. They are just assuming it can't be done. They don't want it to be done because it destroys their math. I have not been screwing around with this on a daily basis for 16 years because it doesn't work. You can't programmed it, it would be impossible. Now a math person will say that anything can be programmed. No it can't because I'm not even sure what I'm doing.

I will use the hunting analogy again. You cannot teach someone to hunt. It's a skill that you learn by doing. And once you get really good at it you're not even really sure how you're doing it because a lot of it is happening in your subconscious. It's like the Zen masters who say they cannot teach enlightenment, all they can do is point in its direction you have to get there on your own. When I play roulette I don't really know how I'm doing what I'm doing. I have looked at so many outcomes, literally countless outcomes, that when it's time to bet, something in my brain clicks and I know it's time. It's not magic, it's experience from observation. It's like driving a car for years and years. Your conscious mind isn't really paying attention to what's going on, your experience with driving is paying attention all the time and alerts you when something isn't right. Works the same way for me in roulette. My experience is always paying attention, always looking for the next bet. How you going to test that, Bluejay, with all your math skills. You're not.

 

The fact that you immediately connect a winning method with riches shows your inexperience. It shows you're just another greedy gambler who has neither the time nor the patience to figure out what's going on.

 

I can tell you right now, 100 millions spins from an actual wheel X 100,000 sessions each.
Poof.
I like how everyone has different spin amounts that they accept as proof.
I wouldn't even make such a challenge like that because it exposes that I have no idea how random works,
much less math.
Damn, now I want to make a thread about that lol.

 

yes , yet the problem is that we look at quantity instead of quality at times. so instead of placing the correct bet that will deliver the amount targeted for a decent win, we can overstate our welcome by thinking "well ,i will place lower bets and win more of them".
easier to get 2 wins then 5 wins the last time I checked.
R.

 

Turbo,

Over how many spins did you test your system, and what was the edge?

 

7 months of intervals.. Live Spins from Wiesbaden...

Roughly 210 days * 170 = 36 k of Spins

4% Edge

So 86% expected... 1 to 11 bet..

 

Is that you testing Turbo's system?