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TurboGenius When does it lose ?

Discussion in 'TurboGenius's Forum' started by TurboGenius, Nov 14, 2021.

  1. TwoUp

    TwoUp Well-Known Member

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    After the first 380 spins, only two numbers are showing some marginal potential and perhaps 1 area to avoid. The under bias near 18 persists through 17,500 spins and so does the warm 5, but the warm 28 evaporates by spin 17,500.

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    Still 380 spins isn't a lot of data.
     
  2. alexlaf

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    Turbo can you run my numbers so i can see the difference between..
    Ty
     

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  3. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Hey Turbo, could you go into the casino and win for me? LOL
     
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  4. TwoUp

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    That probabilty wasn't the death of galaxies it's only 1 in a billion event according to the probability distribution. Its trivial to simulate given a graphics card, even in a cheap console can do ten trillion operations per second I'm surprised it took 5 minutes.
     
  5. Shank

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    5 minutes of coding.
     
  6. TwoUp

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    Unpacking some of this....

    Shannon Entropy is the measure of astonishment/surprise of an event. It is also a measure of how much information is present.

    When you have a probability of an event that is fairly certain there is not much information carried so it represents low entropy. When something is completely uncertain it's probabilty is 50/50 and the information about the event carries maximum entropy (1 bit of information to be precise). Frequency of events is how data compression algorithms work, they distill the probability of occurances of patterns and represent them according to their likelihood. Most likely patterns get encoded with the least bits and the least likely using more bits. So as you can see the more frequent an event is, the LESS actual information it represents and that's how files and data gets compressed. This is all derived from Shannon's work.

    So the birthday paradox graph shows how probability of witnessing two or more people with the same birthday increases as more people enter the room. It has a similar shape to Shannon Entropy.

    The birthday paradox can be compared to witnessing the outcome of roulette spins. As the number spins witnessed increases so too does the probability of witnessing a repeater (c.f. another person entering the room with the same birthday). So as the probability of witnessing an event becomes more and more certain (in this case the probabilty of a repeater) the entropy (disorder) is also DECREASING.

    Out of the chaos comes order.

    That is what @Luckyfella was hinting at.

    Understand the relationship of probability, entropy and the birthday paradox.
     
  7. Bombus

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    My guess,

    It looks like 3 & 24 are feeding a few numbers either side, possibly blistered number tape bouncing the ball out. Use visual ballistics and spin direction to target that section of the wheel, then bet the selected section with less on 3&24.
     

  8. Quos

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    Hi TwoUp!!
    LuckyFella gave directions on this. but I can't forge a flat-bet winning game based on the birthday paradox.
    any ideas?

    Thanks!
     
  9. Mako

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    Stop begging for help in every single thread, every single day, Quos.

    Instead spend your time doing your own research on principals that have already been described in multiple sections of this forum. If you don't understand them, keep reading until you do. It can take years, put the time in as the rest of us have.

    No one is going to give you a hand out, you have to earn it for yourself.

    Good luck
     
  10. SPIKE

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    It usually takes years. Years and years. As I keep saying over and over most gamblers are too lazy, they want something for nothing. That's why they gamble. Those of us who have been doing this for years and years and years are much more than gamblers, we're researchers and inventors.
     
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  11. Quos

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    Mako, I research daily believe me. you would be surprised how much information I have devoured in years. a lot of information. but these game formulas are new to me.
    I make allusion to LuckyFella because in another post, he gave clues that I worked, but still because of the language I did not know how to understand him well.
    Also, this is a discussion forum. it bothers you so much that I ask?
    I ask when I don't understand something as normal.
    This is the second time you have made the same comment to me.
    If you don't like my comments, don't read them. that simple.

    Regards!!
     
  12. SERGIO

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    Yes, Quos, MaKo never asked for help, he was born an expert in everything about roulette, I only suck his ass to sixth sense and others to get it on a silver platter and still, he has no idea how to win
    Now he will start with his attacks as a small child towards me, because he knows that I can win and he is still looking for groups with the group of experts who do not give him anything, just waste time, as all the experts do in all the forums, give clues and no echos, it is not worth following someone for their words, but for their echos and I have been in these forums for years and there are no echos anywhere, do not follow these selfish people, in the end the majority are English and now we know what they are like, they believe they are gods and they are underground.
     
  13. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

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    Quos,

    Nobody understands Luckyfella. He's full of shit, like Redimanthe. Many of these guys are playing the "hint game" for various reasons. They don't have winning systems. Neither does Turbo. As a matter of fact, not a single person on this forum can tell how to make their systems work. You also will not find a sole on here that has the details to Turbo's system either. It's a sick game that they often play. If you want to know how to gamble, read posts on the wizardofodds.com If you want to know how to actually get an edge at a casino game, then read what the casino risk consultants are discussing. (I promise, not one of them will reference systems from any of the people above.)
     
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  14. thereddiamanthe

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    I feel my head's gonna explode .. maybe it has to.
     
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  15. thereddiamanthe

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    are the letters made from words .. or words from letters.
     
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  16. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

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    Are French Fries made from Mr. Potato Head or is Mr. Potato Head made from French Fries?
     
  17. SPIKE

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    And many of them aren't. If you can't tell the difference by now, Caleb, you aren't looking hard enough. How many thousands of outcome streams have you looked at in the last 20 years. And it sounds like all you see is random chaos. You should be seeing a heck of a lot more than that.

    ,
     
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  18. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

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    And here we go again. :rolleyes:
     
  19. SPIKE

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    Mr. Potato Head is actually a good forum name. I don't think I've ever seen anybody use it
     
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  20. SPIKE

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    Are you like the tone deaf guy who when he listens to himself sing on tape thinks he sounds great because he doesn't know what real singing sounds like.
     
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