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TurboGenius When does it lose ?

Discussion in 'TurboGenius's Forum' started by TurboGenius, Nov 14, 2021.

  1. Bombus

    Bombus Well-Known Member

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    Phew! Thanks for the heads up, but I always though as much anyway.

    To quote a very wise and world renowned roulette expert, "I win and you don't. Stuff that in your stocking". Hahaha!
     
  2. SPIKE

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    If you say potato Caleb will say potatoe. He really can't help himself. He is the Devil's Advocate around here. Definition:

    Devil's Advocate,
    a person who expresses a contentious opinion in order to provoke debate or test the strength of the opposing arguments.
     
  3. Mako

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    That, and, he's bored. Have to pass the time waiting for those wobbly wheels to be discovered somehow.
     
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  4. Mako

    Mako Well-Known Member

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    System leeches, please pay attention to the above (Quos, Platton, many many others).

    It's HERE ALREADY. You don't need any more clues/tips/hints/whatever. Read Turbo's section, then follow Lucky's advice (break down a complex problem into small problems, then attack each small problem).

    Read what Denzie wrote above, it's identical to what I'm doing, and many others I'm sure. Remember the golden rule: A 5x repeater can't occur without it being a 4x repeater first...and it had to be a 3x repeater before that...and a 2x repeater before that.

    Focus there, and read read read while testing testing testing.
     
  5. TwoUp

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    The only rhetorical question worth asking is why are those young Asian girls walking around and not up in your room.
     
  6. SPIKE

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    I have always found young Asian girls in
    casinos to be quite mean at the bac table.
    It's one of the reasons I don't play Baccarat
    anymore, the pit always treats the Asians
    different then they treat me. They let them
    get away with almost anything and if I try it
    they are all over me. When I point to the Asian
    girls and say they just did it, the pit will
    always say that they missed it. Boloney they
    missed it.
    For instance I used to play Baccarat with my wife
    and the Asian girls we're always betting each other's
    chips. So I try to bet my wife's chips and they're all
    over me, telling me it's against the rules. But the
    Asian girls do it all the time. I finally said screw it
    stopprd playing entirely.
     
  7. TwoUp

    TwoUp Well-Known Member

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    Maybe just a cranky dealer. I've never had a problem giving chips to friends after a big win who were also playing at the same table. I wasn't putting bets on for them, just gifting chips, but every place is different.
     

  8. SPIKE

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    In the casinos where I played Baccarat the Asians were king.
    Anything they wanted they got. Buffet comps, packs of cigarettes,
    it was an ass-kissing free for all. Screw that, I had enough and I quit.
     
  9. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    You should really consider a side job as a stand up comic.
    You could even perform at the casino and record your own spin data between sets.
     
  10. gizmotron

    gizmotron Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    Boy, I've been waiting 20 years for that assurance.
     
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  11. TwoUp

    TwoUp Well-Known Member

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    Google "A Birthday Attack on Roulette." A paper was published in 2013 by Ranjan chaudhuri, Dept. of Computer Science, Eastern Michigan University.

    Its pretty simple and uses the same birthday attack we use to both analyse the strength of cryptographic algorithms and to attack cryptography (my background is cryptography) to get positive EV in roulette.

    Suffice to say you can tune the probability of success vs the return per spin. The example they provide is to bet the 7 most recent numbers on American Roulette which provides an average return of just over 12.5 units per spin. Using averages means there will be draw downs but the math will hold true long term.

    I can't hand it out on a platter more than this.
     
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  12. Nathan Detroit

    Nathan Detroit Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    In preparation for another day of winning and being banned fiction .


    Great .
     
  13. Median Joe

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    I wonder when he published that "paper". My guess it was 1st April. :D It's been mentioned before on the forum :
    https://www.gamblingforums.com/threads/a-birthday-paradox-attack-on-roulette.11661/

    He does seem to be a genuine academic though :
    https://kszalai.github.io/231/chaudhuri_homepage-remake.html

    Nonsense, of course. But very easy to write a simulation which proves it. I can't be bothered; Shank? Ka2?
     
  14. Median Joe

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    For a single zero wheel : [(7/37) * 29 - (30/37) * 7]/7 = -1/37.
     

  15. Nimo

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    What actually does happen is you first get an email saying that you have gone over the withdrawl limits ( not the ones they post, their internal ones that sees you as a multiple withdrawer). Then they as for further proof it's you as in additional scans of identification. Once that happens you continue until you hit their secondary internal limit. Then they send you registered mail saying your account is under review until an auditor scans yoir acvount. You can continue to play, however you can't withdraw until the audit is done. This process can take up to 6 months. Once that's done they tell you the audit found either some discrepencies or nothing at all. At that point you can withdraw again, but your overall limit is lower. Or they can keep you in the audit process forever. At which point I had my lawyer send a letter to them and the federally regulated jurisdiction they belong to. It took almost 2 years but they paid out my account and closed it. Thats what actually happens.
     
  16. Platton

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    I have some difficulties with translation. What are you saying? A leech? Seriously? And you're comparing me to Quos? Well, as if I have something to say for a long time, now I will express it.
    You know, Mako, Schmako. I've treated you well enough, judging by your posts. And that week I began to respect you even more when you stood up for someone, saying it competently and in a gentlemanly way. And I wanted to write to you about it on the forum. Because I can see by the person. But then you started showing something the opposite. I'm like, "Okay, it happens, we'll see. But it continued. And even though I myself feel the same way about Quos, and I agree that you wrote to him, not to be a plug in every hole. But, nevertheless, as it was said, and even to give such stupid advice... And now you're already getting personal (meaning me), comparing me with him, calling me what I didn't show on the forum what you mean, and even under a clever guise you're giving out advice that wasn't asked of you... Well, no... Enough...
    Where have you seen me go to the forum and, as you say, leeches something out of someone? The only thing I did was ask Turbo questions, not you, about the various systems he laid out. Because the nuances of these systems are not immediately clear. And everyone knows that Turbo does not lay out working systems, but only blanks. So what do I leech out there? And I can't understand - are you just jealous that they ask questions from Turbo, and not from you? Or now asking questions on the forum is something shameful? And the forum was not created for this? Well, I probably know what this forum is for, and I'll tell you about it.
    Mako, Shmako... Say, Who are you, and what have you personally done on this forum for people to walk around, insulting them, and give advice that they didn't ask you? So tell me? That's what you did here, showed that you behave like this? Ah, you're giving out advice... Insulting everyone along the way... Are you our guru now?
    You know, the biggest sin in absolutely all religions around the world and at all times has always been - is Pride! And all the "gurus" who are smart here and say that we are helping you here - are fucking liars. Everyone they help here is their pride, feeding it more and more every day. Basically, everything that you are clever here is read by us, ordinary people who do not have such abilities as you, this is Blah-Blah-Blah. It seems like something so clever is written. Entropy, binomial and a bunch of other words that you haven't even heard, but it reads like - Blah-Blah-Blah... You know, like in politics or financial markets. And after all, you yourself recently wrote about this, about ordinary people, and their understanding, but now you think you're another piece of shit.
    Yes, all the smart guys do here is just flaunt each other, which of them has a bigger and smarter dickhead. And then they defecate from this dickhead to the whole forum, and say - go, figure it out. Yes, sort out all this shit that we've been defecating here, and you'll find out the secret that says that in the end it won't give you anything. LOL. Because it's just shit that only your members understand, and in fact you write this shit only for those who already understand what it's about, but they don't need it. But you need it, or rather your pride. Because the rest will not understand anything anyway, and you will mock them, showing your superiority with an intelligent look.
    Fortunately, the only one, so far, who is really doing something here, and really is not just saying something, but also showing it, because words are worth nothing at all without understanding the practice. And I only found out this year how many years he's been doing this and putting up with it - is TG. Yes, I also get angry at him sometimes, but nevertheless, this is the only person to whom you can shake hands here, with great respect for him. And the most important thing is that over all these years he has not turned into a piece of shit the rest, just remains a Man with a big letter. And treats the others the same way, in a human way. Because what a person has inside, it pours out of him. And one shit is pouring out of you, which can be seen on the forum. That's what you're filled with - is shit. And this is yours legacy... #pieceofshits #thanksfornothing #feedyourpride
    So shove your really shitty advice that no one asked you where, you know where, and shut it all up with a big anal plug! And here's my advice in return - next time, first do something worthwhile for people on the forum, before imagining yourself some guru and going to insult people and give them shitty advice. And since your pride will not allow you not to answer, I'm still not going to become like you, and start shitting the forum. I have said my word.
     
  17. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    He wouldn't know anything about that Nimo.
    He only knows about unicorns running through the field and how to catch one.
    Like his "Go make millions" buddy Steve.
    No clue how things work in reality.
     
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  18. jbs

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    These fools would actually have to shut of their mothers computer and leave the house to actually enter a casino to get banned. And we both know that none of these people that post all day long have actually entered a casino, so them getting banned will NEVER happen!
     
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  19. thereddiamanthe

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    Anyway Mr. Spellchecker, don't be a hypocrite & remain congruent --

    it reverberates either thereddiamanthe or TRD.
     
  20. TurboGenius

    TurboGenius Well-Known Member Founding Member

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    There's the opening comedy act for the other clown. Get your tickets now. Jbs and Sir No One.
     
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