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TurboGenius When does it lose ?

Discussion in 'TurboGenius's Forum' started by TurboGenius, Nov 14, 2021.

  1. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

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    Mako,

    I'm not sure as to why you pretend that you have a working system or that you're somehow better than Quos. None of you can actually claim that you know how Turbo's system works, because Turbo doesn't know how to make it work either. The new poster sees the wild claims, and then searches for the actual system only to find that it doesn't really exist. They only find that it's just a big game of hints, horses, bogus graphs, smoke and mirrors.

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  2. SPIKE

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    So spinning the wheel in the opposite direction on each spin has an effect on the outcome? How so. I always wondered about that , I thought it was a tradition more than anything else.
     
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  3. SPIKE

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    Great picture, where is that from. I want to look it up.
     
  4. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

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  5. Mako

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    How Turbo plays? Yeah, no idea how Turbo plays and never said I did. That's for him to describe.

    I only know how I play, and how I play is based on Turbo's explorations and tests showing what has to happen in a given set of spins, each and every time, 100% without fail.

    And wouldn't you know it, it does. Amazing how that works. :)
     
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  6. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

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    What's your edge? Are claiming that you're system will beat the random game of roulette in the long term?
     
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  8. Mako

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    Turbo may enjoy playing with you out of boredom Caleb, but honestly, I'm not interested. You don't have to believe any of us who claim to be consistently winning in a -EV environment, nor should you.

    I will say that I'm very pleased, after being close for a long period of time and missing a final tweak/revision to the approach. That was maddening, enough to give up on the game and play other opportunities. But as Denzie mentioned, sometimes it's best to walk away, clear your mind, then after a few months give it another go. Sometimes you just might see something you missed.
     
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  9. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

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    I forgot, you're one of the KFC /law of the third players.
     
  10. thereddiamanthe

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    OK .. sounds good .. in theory, EV+.

    → All you'd had to do is play (to associate Vaddi's attack up to) 7 spins, irregardless of fail or success reset+perpetuate.

    Now, I am sure that loads of roulette researchers had tried this exact thing out, including me, & similar to eg. EC bets, due to the short-term variance .. at times you'd amass a considerable debt.

    Perhaps in long-term this would overall work as things normalize over time, but according to my experience -- in the context of playable casino sessions, there'd be sessions when walking away with outstanding debt.



    Due to this, as a first thing, we'd have to calculate the he's inflection point, or the point of the amassed outstanding he amount to be resolved not overwhelming the system -- as an first step in optimization.

    Second, according to binomial distribution & its degree of guarantees .. how far would the interval of cycles (1st-7th spin counted as one) have to extend to ≈guarantee a session inevitable surfacing in profit -- in relation to the variance offsets & ev+. In short, how long would each if the sessions have to be to achieve/attain/result in that?


    Most importantly, if we adapt this to the Quad district as a backbone of the recovery .. can you present this as a whole in its appropriate place? Thnx.
     
  11. SPIKE

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    The artist is really talented and he's still in his fifties. He used to design movie posters and pinball machines before he went into fine art.

    Morgan Weistling (American, b.1964), well-known for his paintings of early American pioneer life, began his art career as a movie-poster illustrator. After 14 years, he left illustration to pursue Fine Art. Interested in the effects of light, Weistling’s paintings capture the mood and atmosphere of the past. His attention to the historical aspects of his subjects comes from his desire to portray the truth and beauty of America’s pioneering spirit. His paintings have graced the covers of Art of the West, Persimmon Hill, Southwest Art, Western Art Collector, American Artist, and other renowned art publications."

    I took art four years in high school and I would have killed be able to produce work like this. I can't imagine what it feels like to be this talented. He reminds me of John Singer Sargent, he might even be more talented. Look at the detail in this picture:

    https://www.artrenewal.org/artworks/goats-and-roses/morgan-weistling/4119
     
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    I had a scholarship to the Art Institute as well and went for a while as a high school student on weekends. As a sophomore in high school I got to oil paint naked women on the weekends. Fun times as a teenager!
     
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    Took a break for a long time. Nice to see we are still at it
     
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    I was just in your backyard.
     

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    oh yea? Jakes or resorts.

    I can’t Goto resorts I refuse to get the vaccine (for now) and since resorts is in the city limits it’s required

    I can Goto jakes but it’s tiny
     
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    People still ask me occasionally what I ever did with my 'art'.
    I did nothing with it, I wasn't talented enough and making it
    in the art world even if you are talented is hugely difficult.
    Always has been. I thought my high school art teacher was
    hugely talented and the only work he ever found outside of
    teaching was doing portraits for rich people of their boats
    and single and double engine airplanes. They were so good
    they looked like photographs.
     
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    With 7 numbers covered (8 in 38) the probability of a repeat is over 52% and it is +EV.

    Interestingly my post is not being disputed by the typical rabble. Instead they are talking about art.

    One doesn't have to settle for as high variance and can extend to more numbers/pigeonholes as the paper states. You can consider 12 numbers (betting on the most recent 11 outcomes, with the very next spin making spin number 12) and your probabilty of a repeat is now close to 85%. Your net drops to 24 units and your loss increases to 11 units but the overall EV is now close to 18.75 (0.85x24)-(.015x11).

    Again there is variance and I've said this makes more of a fool out of anyone than the house edge but the math of the birthday attack is real.
     
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    I did not read every post of yours so dont yell. Which 7 numbers?

    Ken
     
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    Veteran forummers are simply way behind the curve. I wrote many times yet few investigate. How else do anyone think I collect from the casino? Lol
     
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  20. Ordinary_people

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    I think the profit is 25 unit.

    Win 35 unit and loss 10 unit

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