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TurboGenius When does it lose ?

Discussion in 'TurboGenius's Forum' started by TurboGenius, Nov 14, 2021.

  1. Median Joe

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    Yes, you have confused probability of series and single events. You've just done it again, endorsing the professor's obvious mistake.

    Pot calling kettle black. You just accused me of denying the truth of the birthday problem and I did no such thing. Benas called you out on it too. You're trying to do the very thing you accuse me of doing.

    No, I was not incorrect. It's absurd to say you only pay the HA on a win. You pay for it every time you get a loss you wouldn't have done if the HA wasn't there. Obviously my argument went over your head.

    Again, you misunderstood my point, and you kept asserting over and over that I was wrong. It's part of your agenda, I can see that now. Now I've shown you wrong again and you're repeating the pattern.
     
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  2. Median Joe

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    Of course it doesn't, and neither does the law of the third. Turbo has it badly wrong about that, and I'll explain why in a later post. In fact I'll start a new thread on it because apparently it's the darling of system addicts who believe it holds the key to roulette riches. :rolleyes:
     
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  3. 6th-sense

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    Of course it doesn't, and neither does the law of the third. Turbo has it badly wrong about that, and I'll explain why in a later post. In fact I'll start a new thread on it because apparently it's the darling of system addicts who believe it holds the key to roulette riches. :rolleyes:

    i agree with the 7 numbers...or any amount of numbers....don,t agree with this...but post away...the 7 numbers and upwards are different from using lott....but crack on
     
  4. Luckyfella

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    Members already replied to my earlier question that rtm is chaotic. Why bother. Lol

    Why don't you ask SirNoOne if he's guessing correlation or providing proof of causation?
    Ask SirNoOne to declare clearly. Lol
     
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  5. SPIKE

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    Way to get off on the right foot with someone who you don't even know. Congrats! What a douchebag you must be, good grief.
     
  6. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

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    Here's proof that the birthday paradox will not help you win at roulette. Follow the logic, if you can.

    1. The number of pockets determine the probability of winning.
    2. Each spin is an independent trial.
    3. The number of pockets doesn't change from one spin to the next, because the wheel doesn't care when anyone's birthday was.
    4. Knowing the probability of winning doesn't change the fact that the house payoff is still short.
    5. Win or lose, the extra pocket(s) are always on the wheel.
     
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  7. Nimo

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    You sure do talk a lot about pockets, are you an owner of a cargo pant company and subliminally trying to get us to buy cargo pants?
     

  8. Nimo

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    To those looking for the pigeon's birthday, look outside the box or in this case birdcage for the answer, i would tell you more but I don't want to ruin the surprise birthday party I have planned for the pigeon. What i can tell you is again look outside the birdcage and his birthday is on the 9th.
     
  9. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

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    Sorry, but that's just plain stupid for the reasons that I listed above.:rolleyes:
     
  10. Nimo

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    It's ok, sometimes things are out of my realm of understanding too. This might be too abstract for you to wrap your mind around. I will give you your props though, you are the best meme poster ever!
     
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  11. Nathan Detroit

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    Hot number - 4- 4 is tops .
     
  12. DutchCrown

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    Nimo is right.
    To catch a pigeon, you need to have cages or traps. This is where the limits of random comes in.
     
  13. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

    Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone Well-Known Member Lineage to Founders

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    Again, that's _______ for reasons which you should already know.

    If the number of pockets doesn't change from one spin to the next, then why would the odds of winning change based on past spins?

    Logic, it's always in the way! :rolleyes:

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    Free your mind, use logic!
     
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  14. mr j

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    YES IT IS.
     
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  15. Nimo

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    Actually I was saying cages as a metaphor for a box as in thinking outside the box, His birthday being on the ninth is what is significant, But there is limits to random definitely.
     
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    I had to read that three times. I'm waiting for the punchline......

    Ken
     
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    I asked ONE question..... which 7 numbers? I thought you could do a quick response (a couple sentences) and we'd be done. Do I really care? No but I do like to see what OTHERS base their betting off of. Kind of like the goofy YouTube vid I posted.

    Even at the casino, I watch what others do. More of a curiosity thing.

    Ken
     
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  19. Dr. Sir Anyone Anyone

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    If the odds don't change, then why bother with the stupid bird's birthday?
     
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  20. SPIKE

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    If you cannot change the odds in your favor, why bother playing.
    This is why until I discovered roulette I was never a gambler.
    It seems pointless to me. There are so many other things to
    throw your money away on.
     

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